AggiePhil
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can you actually use those 37mm launchers for anything other than signaling?
is there lethal ammo available for it?
If there was, every shell would have to be registered as an NFA Destructive Device. In short, not worth messing with that. People get em for the fun shells. Smokes and flares and such. Google is your friend.
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Looks awesome!!!
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This is all a bit over my head but I do prefer co-witnessing. So...tagged!
ETA: Until something better comes along, I simply have my Aimpoint Micro on a LaRue mount which, though it doesn't allow co-witnessing, can be yanked off and out of the way very quickly should the optic go **** up.
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I'll be damned. Is this a new product? I wasn't aware that GG&G made a single sling attachment point for the M4.
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It's a Mesa Tactical item, but I'm guessing it won't work on the OEM buttstock on the M4, maybe it will work on the Urbino.
The current one, the one you picture, is actually meant to work on the OEM stock. The Urbino will have one made for it as well.
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I just don't like the fact that it isn't all that stable and seems very difficult to do while moving. Seems easy to screw up if you were to trip or be bumped. Since movement is important in a gunfight, I don't want to rely on a technique that is dependent upon standing still. Standing still in a gunfight will get you killed. That's why I might be more inclined to use the method that loads into the magazine tube which is mechanically very simple and hard to screw up. Then again, I'm always open to new methods of trying things and will practice other techniques. Either way, the slug changeover is an important technique for the shotgun operator to have in his toolbox. Slug capability is one of the strong points of the shotgun.
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A thread on another message board got me thinking about this and I wanted to see what you guys thought. What are the best ways to perform a slug changeover on the M4? Just to be clear, this would be where you have one type of shell (other than a slug) in the chamber and then suddenly decide that you need to have a slug in the chamber.
The M1014 manual recommends...
The free carrier in the M1014 Combat Shotgun allows the chambered round to be removed or exchanged with a different round without the need to first unload the magazine tube. This allows the weapon to be "half unloaded" for safe tactical handling of the shotgun (handing it onto a roof or over a fence). In addition, the operator can quickly remove the round from the chamber and replace it with a different round that is more appropriate for the target at hand.1. Grasp the forearm of the combat shotgun firmly with the non-firing (weak) hand.
2. Remove the firing hand from the buttstock and secure a round of the preferred type from the ammo pouch. Hold this round between the thumb and index finger of the firing hand with the rim or base of the shell pointed towards the palm.
3. Use the edge of the firing hand below the small finger to push smartly rearward on the bolt handle and hold it open. This will cause the chambered round to eject from the shotgun.
4. While holding the bolt open, insert the new round into the weapon through the ejection port.
5. Release the bolt handle to chamber the new round. Do not ride the bolt handle forward.
Now I don't know about y'all, but when I attempt this maneuver, it requires some gymnastics that I don't think have a place on the battlefield. It essentially boils down to a human not having enough hands to hold the gun up AND accomplish all these tasks at the same time. With a pump it isn't too bad cause the bolt stays open on its own but with the semi-auto, it ain't staying open unless the gun is empty. So I'd rather keep it simple and stick to only loading shells into one place--the mag tube.
Seems that with the M4, if you're down at least one round in the mag tube, it's very simple and doesn't require anything crazy. Simply load the slug into the mag tube, hit the shell release lever, and run the bolt. Your slug will now be in the chamber and ready to go.
If the mag tube was full on the other hand, I guess I would hit the shell release lever, run the bolt twice, load the slug into the mag tube, hit the shell release lever again, and run the bolt again (??).
I don't know...what do y'all think about the different ways to do this? I'm sure the Magpul guys will shed some light on it when their Art of the Dynamic Shotgun DVDs come out here in a few weeks. That's actually what prompted the other thread I mentioned.
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"We won't ship the first stock until the first week of November at the earliest. The first stocks shipped will be the versions without the cheek riser, and because of the extra time involved in producing the Limbsaver buttplate assemblies, those will take a little longer as well.
"The GOOD NEWS, however, is that we re-evaluated our pricing decisions, and we decided to cut the prices by approximately half. We have not finalized the pricing yet, but it will be around half the prices quoted in our catalog # 14." -the latest news
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I'm wondering if it's possible to but the Benell OEM rubber PG on the Mesa stock.
Don't think there's a need. Mesa copied the stock grip almost exactly.
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Which exact one did you order Bob? I'm wanting to order one with the Limbsaver and cheek riser but heard that the cheek riser might delay things. Nonetheless, I'm gonna need it.
ETA: you received some great news if they hold true to it!
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We need a metallurgist to weigh in on this.
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Matt,
Besides the choke at least "looking" like what one wants a "tactical" choke to look like (black, ports that "look" menacing), there are definitely benefits to the choke for better performance.
1. Ports have actual "blades" made into the port that slice and cut pieces of the wad off as the shot leaves the barrel. This "slowing" of the wad, in essence, "releases" the pellets from the wad as the shot leaves the barrel.
2. The shot heads on to the target and the wad does not"blow through" the shot column. This eliminates "fliers" of the individual pellets.
3. Chokes are made of 17-4 PH SS, the highest tensile strength SS out there. They are made to last as long as your gun.
4. They do not rust under normal usage.
Thanks for asking!
GTPSC (BlackBore Chokes)
Haha...at least you're upfront about working for the company.
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What is the factory one made out of?
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Ask and ye shall receive. I just hadn't done it yet cause for one, no one had asked and for two, I've been adding things pretty steadily. Here's what we've got so far...
Benelli M4
CarrierComp Titanium Magazine Tube
CarrierComp Picatinny Rail
Dave's Metal Works Oversized Safety
Aimpoint T-1 red dot sight shipped out from OpticsPlanet.com today (10% off all orders over $100 with coupon code "THANKS" until October 20th!)
Next will be a 3GunGear velcro side saddle, a Mesa Urbino stock (when it comes out), a GG&G bolt release button, a light setup, and a sling of some sort.
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The roll pin punches I bought from Sears were way too big. I think even a 1/16" punch would have been too big. I wound up making do with a precision screwdriver and a hammer of all things. Anyway, once I got the pin out, I discovered that the M4 doesn't have the part listed as 018A in the photo below. Also, 008A never fell out (though I'm sure it was in there).
Once I got it all wrapped up and put back in there, the DMW safety is badass. Very pleased, though I think they ought to include instructions and a properly sized roll pin punch (I'd pay $10 extra or whatever it is for that).
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Awesome, that's a great step in the right direction. Man, what a pain in the ass though. Just what I was afraid of. Guess I'm gonna have to order me a set of roll pin punches as I couldn't get it to move using an "improvised tool".
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Recently bought a DMW oversized safety for my M4. Didn't come with any instructions whatsoever and I was also unable to find any M4 specific instructions on the net. Can anyone tell me what tools are needed and what has to be done? Hopefully it's an easy swap. So far, the only thing on this shotgun that's been easy to change out has been the CarrierComp picatinny rail. lol
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Finally sending mine off this weekend. We'll see how long it takes to come back.
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What's that, a 12" barrel?
Nice shotgun there, with the Aimpoint Micro and all. -
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Looks awesome! Now I'm not sure if it puts it low enough for iron cowitness, but I believe the Trijicon RM33 mount puts the optic in the lowest possible position and just might work. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/637822-REG/Trijicon_RM33_RMR_Low_Mount_for.html
Benelli M4: Bought the GG&G side sling loop...help!!
in Benelli
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Well I may not even bother now that the Urbino is about to come out with about six different sling attachment options.