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    Nordic Extension/922r Compliance?

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    Honestly? Because no one gets too concerned about it. To my knowledge, no one has ever purposely, with criminal intent, attempted to skirt the law, nor has anyone has ever been arrested or prosecuted for doing so.

     

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    Yes, I've never heard of this either. But what if I add a collapsible/folding stock to a registered NFA shotgun? Does 922r come into play? Normally I don't think 922 is a big deal but I want to be extra careful when dealing with Title III weapons.

    M4 tactical H2O banned?

    in Benelli

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    I emailed Benelli and this is their response which I received today

     

    Thank you for contacting Benelli USA. They currently are not banned, but are under an ATF evaluation. The future of these are uncertain at the moment as we still do not know what it is going on, but feel free to check back anytime for updates.

     

    That’s exactly what I was told when I called Benelli in December. Local dealers have also told me that H2Os will never make it to the US shore (Carter Country near Houston) but I put more weight on what Benelli says. They are the only documented and credible source for this information and I don’t know why they would have a reason to lie about the review status.

     

    This is why I’m saying Feinstein's legislation is the X factor. Under the proposed legislation the gun would not in fact be able to make to the US in its current configuration (See my earlier post) regardless of whether it passes ATF review.

    M4 tactical H2O banned?

    in Benelli

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    The H2O has been discontinued by Benelli and it has NOTHING to do with any pending legislation. The decision to end production came before any of the present craziness. The cause of death of the H2O was that Benelli tried to accomplish a work-around of the 922r regulations by shipping the parts for the guns here and assembling them in the US, but the ATF rejected the plan.

     

    Just wondering, where did you get the info that it has been discontinued? I talked to a Benelli rep not too long ago (I believe in December) and they said it was still under review.

    M4 tactical H2O banned?

    in Benelli

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    Everything is in limbo because of Feinstein's legislation. Here is a summary regarding shotguns:

     

    "All semiautomatic shotguns that have a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; pistol grip; fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds; ability to accept a detachable magazine; forward grip; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; or shotgun with a revolving cylinder. The legislation excludes the following weapons from the bill: Any weapon that is lawfully possessed at the date of the bill’s enactment"

     

    The H2O has a pistol grip, capacity to accept more than 5 rounds, and a telescoping stock. That would make it a banned weapon. If you already own one you're in the clear but if the bill passes your chances would be zero.

    The State Of The Gun Industry

    in Benelli

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    GUn Broker is a joke. they over price everything and it still sales,lol. M4s can still be had a MSRP. there is a cammo one at my LGS right now been there for years actuall same one that was there when I bought mine.

     

    Why wouldn't they just list it on gunbroker? Apparently, they don't care to make sales lol.

     

    Anyway, does anyone know where I can get free comprehensive market data for gun sales? I want to see exactly when the peak hits and when the decline begins. I like the insider information from message boards but I want to see some verified statistics as well. I tried looking at the FBI background checks by week/day but I'd like to see summary charts/graphs as well as more detailed information if its available. I know the National Shooting Sports Foundation does some market research but they charge for it. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks.

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    Will BenelliUSA sell replacement parts for guns that are no longer imported?

    in Benelli

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    Numrich lists the Ghost Ring Sight barrel for the M3 folding stock but I believe that is actually for the current M3 which doesn't have the same ghost ring sights.

     

    http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/742710.htm

     

    Are there any regulations on importing a barrel? I don't see why BenelliUSA can't get me one from Italy if I can provide the serial number of my gun and am willing to pay for it...

    If a Assult Weapon Ban passes what does that mean for us B/M4 owners ?

    in Benelli

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    Ghost loading puts the mag capacity over five on an unmodified Benelli semi-auto (as do mini-shells which may or may not actually work in your own shotgun).

     

    What current production Benellis still allow ghost loading? I know the M3 no longer has that capability without modification. And does ghost loading increase magazine capacity? Technically the extra round is not sitting in the magazine...

    If a Assult Weapon Ban passes what does that mean for us B/M4 owners ?

    in Benelli

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    What law passes? There is no law. Right now there's just talk of a law, proposals. There are an infinite number of possibilities as to the language of any possible law(s) to be put forth for an actual vote. I suggest that we don't get wrapped around the axle of what might happen until there's something concrete to discuss. Right now the important thing to do is quit wringing our hand about what might happen and contact our elected representatives and let them understand that there would be consequences should they vote for any law that infringes upon our rights as US citizens including the 2nd, 4th and 5th amendments. And I'm not talking violence. I'm talking electoral consequences. Many of the more stupid "proposals" that are out there are clearly unconstitutional and there's no doubt would be struck down by the courts. In the meantime, after whatever finally passes, we can work on removing from office those who would allow such laws to pass.

     

    Yes there is no law right now. But we do know Feinstein is working on reinstating the original 1994 ban plus more. I am wondering about the legality of carrier comp and other aftermarket tubes that accept more than 5 rounds under the original 1994 ban.

     

    My discussion of hypotheticals does not mean I have accepted such an outcome. I always prepare for the worst and fight for the best. I just signed up for an NRA life membership and wrote all my state and federal legislators.

    If a Assult Weapon Ban passes what does that mean for us B/M4 owners ?

    in Benelli

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    922r was related to import restrictions, not the gun itself. So you should be good there. Instead we will get the shaft on some other grounds, such as your gun can hold more than 5 rounds.

     

    Hypothetically speaking let’s say that law passes. With exception to the H2Os, aren't most US benelli's 5+1 anyway? How would that affect current production? Does that mean that anyone with an aftermarket full length mag tube (even if installed pre-ban) would be required to take it off?

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