Johnnybgood

Are you saying your M4 came from the factory with a +2 extension when you nought it? I wasn’t aware of those. Anyway, if you put the +2 extension on yourself, then the law required that you comply with 922r at that time. I’m not saying that a violation of 922r is anything to be particularly concerned about. I reluctantly complied when I changed my M4 because it wasn’t that big of a deal. I would bet there are thousands of m4s in this country that do not comply with 922r and I seriously doubt anyone will have any problem. But with that said, I chose to comply just so I didn’t have to think about it again. EDIT….ok, I just looked up your model number and see that it came from the factory with a two piece 7 round tube., I incorrectly thought the law enforecement models came with a one piece 7 round tube. I was wrong anout my previous assumption that you added the extension. Your question is interesting and I do not know the answer.

Yep....F...k ebay

At least they did a few months ago

Yes

Aznwhip, you are right. Life is too short to get too bent up about this stuff. I have never accused Benellipets of doing anything illegal and I have always assumed everyone who made a pre-order will get their parts eventually. While I find it distasteful to divert some paid for pre-order stocks to sell at a higher profit on Gunbroker, I do not know all of the circumstances. Maybe there is another side to this. Anyway, it will all work out. I hope everyone enjoys the holidays and stays well. Peace and out.

GM2376: at the time I submitted my pre-order AND MY MONEY at the beginning of September, the Benelliparts webpage stated the preorders were expected to be filled by the first part of November. Those pre-orders have still not been filled! Do you really think it is ethical business practice to have stocks in but not fill those pre-orders and instead sell them on Gunbroker? You really think this is fair to the customers who submitted their money in September? Really? Wow, remind me to never do business with you either. And what do you mean Benelliparts not a business? Looks like a business to me. Webpage, takes credit cards....what is your definition of a business? This guy is not supplying parts to people who order them from his webpage out of the goodness of his heart. He is IN BUSINESS to make money. He shouldn’t screw his customers. Period.

No, selling the m4 stock on gunbroker because you can get more money than filling your existing paid for orders is not a “timing issue.”

See the other thread on this forum regarding the M4 collapsible stock. Some of us sent in a pre-order payment to Benelliparts in early September, including me, and we have still not received the stock. Another poster has presented credible evidence that Benelliparts has been recently selling the m4 stocks on Gunbroker at an inflated price despite the fact he has unfilled, paid for, orders dating back to early September.

Gm2376 and Hk2000...you guys continue to ignore the people who paid Benelliparts for a stock in September and have not received one yet, while Benelliparts apparently is selling them on Gunbroker at an inflated price. I guess no one at Benelliparts wants to address the elephant in the room. So be it. Maybe your paying customers or prospective customers won’t be too happy when they see all of this. I guess you would be happy if the customers who paid you in September cancel their orders now so you can sell the stocks at an inflated price, but what about your other items? You guys aren’t the only game in town for those other parts. I’m through with this idiotic response from you guys. If I do not receive my stock I will try to get the money back from my credit card company and contact the state of California attorney general or whoever handles this kind of stuff. I assume all of that will not be necessary

Yes, so far Benelliparts (Heckler&KochP2000) is silent other than the “fake news” comment. Benelliparts, all you need to do is come on and say why this is fake news. If you do not do this, then everyone will assume (rightfully so) that you have acted shady, at best, by selling stocks on Gunbroker instead of providing your customers who have already paid you. It seems from the information Nethawk provided that there is no doubt you sold at least some of those stocks on Gunbroker. How many? Why shouldn’t your Customers who paid you in September be upset with this? Maybe its true what some people say that you just don’t really give a shit. Ok. That is your right I guess. But the internet is a good equalizer for consumers who are not treated fairly. Other future consumers can be made aware of facts that will help them determine who to do business with. Maybe you should consider that.

Gm2376....Nethawk is correct. It is not illegal in most states to record a telephone call if you are one of the parties to that call. What is shady about recording your own call? Seems like that is the best evidence to me and it helps avoid disputed conversations and determine the truth. You against that? Nothing shady about Nethawk recording his own call. By the way, many people do this all the time.

Thanks for the info, Nethawk. Tnis needs to be addressed by Benelliparts and Antoine.

This issue should be addressed by Benelliparts. I, for one, do not like to pay for something that the seller will eventually get to me when he feels like it and when his profit margin by selling it somewhere else decreases. So yea, based on the information posted by Nethawk, I am pissed. If that information is wrong, then I apologize, but how about addressing it! Its not going away. Is Nethawk a liar, or is the owner of Benelliparts a liar? I can assure you, this is not going away until it is addressed. I will bet others on the waiting list feel the same.

If that is true, that is fu...ked up.

If Nethawk’s facts are true, I think Beneeliparts’ customers would be interested in knowing this. Maybe this issue should be brought to a larger audience? I know some people think the owner is rude and has a f...k you attitude.....I don’t really know. But I do know that I paid for a stock in early September, I have not received it yet, and Nethawk has published what appears to be convincing evidence that the owner of Benelliparts is selling the stocks on Gunbroker before he completes his obligation to his existing customers.