Silent_killer Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Just wondering if anyone out there has the measurement for an M4 11707, with a collapsible stock, and knows the overall lenth with stock in shortest position. I would like to add one to my M4, but want to make sure this does not bring me into SBS range... Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4Defense Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Fully collapsed almost 35" fully open 40" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrad68 Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 If i'm not mistaken its about 35" or 36" Rickey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent_killer Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 I came up with 34.9" fully collapsed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhane71 Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Adding a C-stock doesn't make it a short barrel shotgun. Adding a 14" barrel does. Adding the C-stock will place you out of 922r compliance. That is unless you change out other factory parts with U.S. made parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent_killer Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 Yeah, I have 4 other US made parts to replace in order to install the stock and be 922r compliant. Even if your barrel length is over 16" Which is SBS/SBR, if the overall lenth of a "long gun" is under 26" then it is still considered SBS/SBR, therefore NFA. I didnt think it shortened the gun that much, but in the case that it would of, then yes it is NFA. SBR/SBS is a no-no in Michigan.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhane71 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 If I am not mistaken any shotgun with a barrel under 18" with a shoulder stock is considered an SBS. Maybe someone can verify that for me. But you are correct that it still needs to be over 26" in total length. The C-stock doesn't lower the gun below that so you should be safe. I was only adding that if you made the barrel shorter then you would cross over into the NFA realm. I live in Texas so I don't know Michigan laws. But I think you should be able to own anything you want as long as you are a law abiding U.S. citizen. It seems a great shame that states like yours, California, and others don't let you have what other states let their people have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango two Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I would like to add one to my M4, but want to make sure this does not bring me into SBS range... Thanks! It won't. Do you think all of the buyers of the collapsible stock are inviting a visit from the ATF?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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