cap10b Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Guys, Some thoughts and observations regarding my Condor Competition 12ga 30” bbl shotgun. Bought the gun new from Gander Mountain Saturday Feb 8th, 2014 Dallas, Texas. Took the gun home cleaned it and oiled it ready to shoot the next weekend. Saturday Feb 15th 2014 ran 175 rounds of trap thru it. One FTE cause by stuck cartridge case. One fail to close caused by the lock lever closed before the bbls closed [*]Entered my first Sporting Clays event Elm Fork Winter Classic. Had one FTF light strick on lower bbl. One FTE stuck case. [*]Thoroughly cleaned the gun and today put 75 rounds of 5 stand and practice trap Had one failed to close caused by lever closed before the bbl closed. Stock is loose causing noise and clicking sound. [*] I plan to shoot this gun all of 2014 thru the sporting clays tournaments here is North Texas, I don’t know if the gun will make 10,000 rounds in 2014 as that’s 200 rounds a week for 52 weeks and that is allot of shooting. The gun shoots nice, points well and feels as good as my buddies Browning 725 Citori. The balance is good as the gun swings very nice and does not bounce or teter when tracking a clay, The adjustable comb is easy to work with and stable., The chokes that come with it are 6 extended full, mod, IC and two flush IC and Mod 8 chokes in all. The gun is heavy it says 7.9 lb in the book but it’s more like 8.3 lb the extra weight makes for almost no recoil and that’s nice after 100 rounds. I still plan to use my Beretta A300 as backup as I don’t quite trust this gun to get the job done. Thanks Johnny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cap10b Posted February 23, 2014 Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 more data 50 rounds of 5 stand - no FF or FTE 50 Rounds of skeet - Used bbl selector several times no light strikes or FTF issues, jds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timb99 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Johnny I wish you good luck with this gun. It looks nice, but in the end it is still a "entry level" gun and there is a very good reason why it costs less than the premium guns it looks like. The biggest, most damning complaints about these guns is their proclivity to "fail to fire." And worse than that, often the "barrel regulation" is poor. Plus they have TERRIBLE triggers. By barrel regulation I mean, do both barrels shoot to the same point of impact? Often, with lower level guns, they don't. And if they don't, there's no fixing it. I recommend you pattern the gun to assure POI regulation. This website provides an accurate way of testing POI regulation. http://www.mn-trap.org/tech_corner/n_winston/Point_of_Impact_and_Pattern_Testing_at_13_Yards.pdf For what it's worth, I have a Standard Condor, and have shot it a LOT, taken it apart a few times, fixed it myself, and still use it for hunting. So they can be a reasonably reliable sporting arm. But I suspect after a year of shooting with it, you will move on to something better. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cap10b Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 Tim, Most definitely will move on and I am an entry level shooter. No need to buy a $2700 Citori right now. I wanted to document the gun and shoot 10k rounds just to see what happens. Thanks for the info Johnny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cap10b Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 2 rounds ATA trap. (50 shots ) a. changed to IC chokes on both bbls. 2 rounds of 5 stand 50 rounds total a. No FTF or FTE problems switched from Federal target to Remington Gun Club ammo. lowered comb one full turn bought a cyl choke to try on skeet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cap10b Posted March 15, 2014 Author Share Posted March 15, 2014 (edited) Patterned gun full choke @ 30 yds - shoots 2" to right but 60/40 on center for both bbls 2 rounds trap 50 targets no FTF no FTE. 2 rounds of skeet had one FTF due to light primmer strike top bbl. a. Rio Game loads brown box blue shells 2-3/4, 1 oz 7.5 shot used Stoeger Cyl choke for skeet Busted em !!!!!!! Edited March 15, 2014 by cap10b add data Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cap10b Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) 50 round - Two Rounds of Trap, no issues, a buddy who shoots a Ruger Red Label shot a round of trap and scored 21 no issues he wants a Stoeger Grand 50 Rounds - two rounds of skeet, had on FTF light strike on the top bbl. Again Rio Target Ammo Blue Box 2-3/4, 1-1/8 oz 7.5 shot. just a note: 3 FTF in 700 rounds 2 FTE first 200 rounds All can be attributed to Cheap Ammo Rio Blue Box Rio Brown Box Estate and Federal Target. Edited March 22, 2014 by cap10b more info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cap10b Posted March 29, 2014 Author Share Posted March 29, 2014 (edited) 100 rounds sporting clays Woods Course Elm Fork Shooting Sports Facility Rio Game loads Brown box 2-3/4 , 1oz, 7.5 shot no FTF, No Light strikes, no FTE 4 rounds of Skeet no FTF, no light strikes, no FTE New ammo Herters Target Loads 2-3/4, 1-1/8, 7.5 shot JDS Edited March 29, 2014 by cap10b spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cap10b Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 3 round of trap. 75 shots, no FTF or FTE . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cap10b Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 3 rounds skeet 75 shots no FTF no FTE no light strikes Ammo Rio Games Loads Brown Box #8 shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cap10b Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) 2 rounds of skeet - 2 FTF light strikes lower bbl. 50 rounds 2 rounds of 5 stand-1 FTE Rio target loads 50 rounds The light strikes were on the lower bbl during skeet. the FTE were on the upper bbl during 5 stand. 100 rounds Sporting clays Woods course Elm Fork shooting sports facilty. 2 FTF on lower bbl, 3ea FTE one on the upper bbi two on the lower bbl. Edited April 26, 2014 by cap10b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cap10b Posted April 26, 2014 Author Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) Today Shot Dove course 50 rounds. Had to stop as the gun had so many FTE that could not continue, all with the same ammo. Herters, Rio, Remington. Total ammo shot = 1328 Edited April 26, 2014 by cap10b total shots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cap10b Posted June 1, 2014 Author Share Posted June 1, 2014 shot last 100 round sporting clays course. total rounds 1428 several FTF and FTE had to take the gun apart in the field In order to get the shells out of the gun. That's It Guys no more Stoeger for me. Procured a Beretta Silver Pigeon 1 Sporting 32" bbls, Optima HP chokes. The difference is like night and day. This shotgun is going back to the Factory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timb99 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Wise choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cap10b Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 I"m not knocking the gun but the actual mfg of the shotgun is a dirt floor factory in brazil E. R. Amantiono http://www.microvera.com.br/ Jds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cap10b Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) Ok received the shotgun back from Benelli USA took to the skeet range Station no #1 hi house hit. Low house hit, doubles hi house hit then FTE, Shell caseing stuck, could not get the shell to release. Was about to get my shell extractor, (piece of 1/4 dowel rod) when blowing on the open barrel caused the lower ejector to pop the case out. Ok figured Benelli USA cut them some slack, then on sta #6 it did it again. I bagged the gun up and retired the shotgun, finished the round with my A300. I dont know about this shotgun, but I do know I cant take this gun anywhere near real competition as it is un reliable. Thanks all its been an experiance. JDS Edited September 1, 2014 by cap10b spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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