mudhen
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I only deer hunt and love every time I go(50+ a year). My outlook is, if at end of year, I have killed a buck most hunters would mount I have had a great year. I also want to take a many does as bucks.
Excellent reply. Sounds like a solid goal each year
Your comment on the does shows that you understand modern deer herd management -
texas has everything that virginia has ...
They have ignorant poachers too
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Man, is that what hunting is about, or what? Enjoying it completely, regardless of whether or not you actually fill your tag.
Not for me usually
I must kill or have the chance to kill. No joke.
Now, how much to kill of what is dealt with on a case by case basis.
Also, each game species has different objectives for me. Deer, waterfowl, turkeys, etc. all have different goals for me.
I couldn't disagree more with the tired old "a bad day hunting" bit. A bad day hunting is just that. A good day a work can lead to so much more. For me, a good day at work can lead to sales, which leads to commission, which is how I pay for many fantastic hunts.
The sun will rise everyday until I'm worm food. I don't need to be in the duck blind, with friends or family, with a wet dog, sipping a hot cup of coffee, just enjoying the sounds and sights of the marsh, etc. I'm there to kill ducks. Period. I want to kill ducks, go home, and then go back another day to kill more ducks.
Turkeys are a bit different. I've had some success with them. Generally, I like to get a big tom down early each season. This takes the monkey off my back. But, as the season progresses, the passion to hunt the big toms seems to get stronger and stronger. I love these birds
But this is just my take.....
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Mudhen,
what test did you do with the Xtended Range ? I like these shells myself but i read somewhere that it didnt penetrate thru ply wood at 50 yrds but the hevi 13 blew holes
I havent done any such test but would like to know about your test.
Here are the references: from another forum
"I compared Winchester supreme's versus Remington Hevi Shot. Both were 3 1/2" #5's shot out of an 870 SPST. Both shells patterned about the same @ 20, 30, 40, and 50 yards. The only difference I noticed was the awsome penetration of the Hevi shot's. I used 1/4 inch plywood for a backstop. The Hevi shot went clean through the plywood @ 50 yards, but the Winchester barely stuck in the board and came out with a flick of a fingernail. That's what sold me on the Hevishot. Also, the bird I shot this year was exactly 50 steps and broadside. When I took the breast meat out I noticed pellets that penetrated through both breast."
and then another
"My dad noticed the same thing.. We have shot Hevi-Shot, Hevi 13, Federal Heavy-Weight, and the WInchester XR... He noticed there were some silver pellets that were not even going through our wooden backstop while alomst all the other pellets were.. We found it was the XR..It put the most pellets in the target at 50 yards in his gun, but he has switched to #5 Hevi-Shot due to the lack of penetration in the XRs."
thanks,
HH
I've never liked plywood for shotgun penetration testing. I prefer phonebooks. I get very similar results from phonebook testing when comparing H-13 to XR's. I suspect it is related to H-13 being 1090 fps, and the XR's being 1225 fps, but not sure.
Remington HS has not been made in around three years, but while it was available, it was a real hammer at 1250 fps or something like that. I could never get it to pattern well enough to use for turkeys, but a boat load of ducks died from it for me. I can't get the Wingmaster HD turkey loads to pattern any better than the original Remington HS.
Of course, I don't pattern at 50 yards, so I wouldn't know about those that claim H-13 'blows' through plywood at 50 yards.
Also, I'm looking for 150-200 hits in a 10" circle at 40 yards, so a few golden BB's (or golden 5's) at 50 yards that might kill a turkey are of no interest to me.
While I do take an occasion 40-45 yard shot, my average is around 15-20 yards, so I really don't go all out to test much past 40 yards.
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I've got both a Benelli M1 and a SBE1. I've shot the Hevi-13 2 oz in both guns thru an Indian Creek .665 with poor results. What brand and size choke are you using to get good patterns with this load in your M1's and SBE1's??
I have tried the IC in .655 & .665 in my SBE II with just so so results using the 3.5# & 3" H-13 6's.
Best results so far have been from my .660 Jellyhead or my .660 Rhino, but even these results are about the same as the Win XR 6's.
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Well if you want to know both on gun broker one seller had nib sbe 2 max 4 camo 28" for 1325.00 and the other was a nib sbe2 timber camo 24" for 1045.00:eek:,this guy only had them in 24" for that price.In my neck of the woods these are selling steady at 1500.00 so they are good deals especially the last one,but I use the gun to hunt ducks over big water down here in coastal La. so the 28 is my choice.
24" bbl guns have been cheaper than 26" & 28" for some time now, especially Benellis in Timber and/or Realtree.
I've had nothing but bad luck patterning 24" guns and will never buy one again.
Fine for waterfowl, not acceptable for turkeys (for me) no matter how many loads and chokes I tried. Fine for close range work though.
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It has been my experience that a $12 call can sound just as good as an $80 one.
Along the same lines, I have bought 6 x $12 calls that don't sound as good as 1 good $80 call
I have several custom slates from Pacific Flyway calls that have been deadly on my midwest trips.
I'm only adding one slate this year, the Cherry Bomb slate from Mark Allan Drury calls.
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...why do you want to clean the inside of your magazine tube? Did something get inside of it that needs to be cleaned out?
I've been cleaning the inside of the mag tubes for as long as I've owned guns. This area can be critical to the proper functioning of any gun that feeds from a tubular magazine. I use a 10 gauge bore brush + steel wool + metal polish to keep that tube clean and free of any hang-ups.
Leaking buffer is my mag tube enemy #1
That insert cap is most likely held in place with Lock-tite, but I'd check with Benelli CS or a GS that works on Benellis.
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Sac. Ca. to Pocomoke MD. with FEDEX firearms must go priority overnight with adult signature required
$122.00. Kurt
$12.03 from my area to Benelli USA - UPS Ground - no unusual restrictions on shipping long guns. Hand guns?, different story...
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Sac. Ca. to Pocomoke MD. with FEDEX firearms must go priority overnight with adult signature required
$122.00.
Hey MudHen is there any one around Sac. that knows there way around Benelli's?
I was thinking of ordering the 25% stronger recoil spring from Midway to see if that stops the link from getting chewed on and stop the Jamming?
Kurt
Do you have to use Fed Ex? I have always used UPS Ground for long guns.
I have been using the +25% Benelli springs from Wolff Gunsprings since about 1992.
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It's probably the Alaska part. Isn't everything 'Air' to and from there?
Maybe try UPS?
I shipped a rifle UPS Ground to Weatherby last November for $8.00, so there is no unusual rate just for guns.
I have sales reps that live in HI. I have to send them samples and we pay a pretty good clip to get the stuff there. I don't complain because they are selling my stuff and just happen to live in HI.
I presume Benelli will at least pay the shipping back?
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Nikolai,
Please don't misunderstand my concern for anger. I just think it would be more logical to follow the lead of other gunmakers use the metal, threaded plugs- which could be easily removed or replaced at later time. There is something to said about conveience to the shooter. Thanks for your comment but still think the plastic plugs are the cheaper way out......my concern is I may have to take my gun a gunsmith just to get those plugs out....that would be a first. I feel like I have enopugh money sunk in this gun.
Thanks,
Shedhunter
I strongly disagree with your comments and your logic.
The plugs tap out, no problem. I do cut the film around the plug with an Xacto knife if the gun is camo so the film does not lift with the plug.
What will happen to a metal threaded plug when it stays in contact with a metal threaded opening and gets wet
I doubt rifles, where I do see the metal screws, are as prone to getting wet as an M2 receiver, slug barrel or standard barrel.
I think plastic plugs, tapped into place firmly, that stay put and seal the hole until the shooter decides it's time to remove them, are fine with me.
And since I have happily purchased several Benellis with these plastic plugs, the proof is in the pudding
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Looks pretty good.
Did ole Dave ever get his website going so we can order from him?
Never been down for me. I checked the day you said it was, and it worked fine for me
The jake is cool. I may stick with the DSD hen for now, but the jake certainly looks interesting
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I'm sure they hang on your every word, losing sleep every night wondering if they will hear from you or not..
Maybe, maybe not
But, I just cancelled a $300 H-13 order with MidSouth based on your comments here, and I let HS know this along with your name, and a link to this post, so I hope they can verify the situation for me so I can get some ammo ordered and hit the boards pretty quick here
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The Red hulls with stars stamped on the brass will be in my vest until the Gold hulled ones surface.
Just keep your eye on this one.
I've been shooting gold hulled 3.5" since last year.I'll let Hevi-Shot know they are wrong
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Word on the street is that there is going to be a higher velocity version in the near future. The current speed of 1,090 fps is a little low for my taste, but I can't say too much because my freezer has a lot of meat in it from those "slow" loads!
I e-mailed Hevi-Shot about the 'street word', and they said to tell you that the 'street' was incorrect
They are happy winning still contests with the 1090 fps, and they have no plans to speed it up
I have heard that more speed with H-13 only degrades the pattern, and that is why they stick with 1090.
For me, this keeps some Win XR's in the vest due to the speed and the need for a bit more range at times.
XR's out-penetrate H-13 at longer ranges in my tests, so I'll keep both around for now.....
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I came home and switched out the B shim for the C shim to give me more drop. I havent shot since switching the shims but theoretically this should lower my poi correct? Anyone have any input into how much this should lower my poi?
Yes, in in theory going from B to C should lower your POI, but this is primarily a wingshooting practice because many do not use the beads when wingshooting.
BUT, I have always been able to move my turkey pattens around a bit by changing shims. Add in a little bead work, and you should be able to dial in a very workable combination.
I found, many years ago, that I loved the B shim in my SBE II with the 6-8" lift. I aim at the base of the neck and let the pattern just rip into the head. This way I can watch the bird longer than I can with a 'cover' gun.
You are on your own, as you should be, in finding what shell/choke combo works best in your S-Nova. Given that bore ID's are all over the place on Benellis, I would absolutley want to pattern my own Benelli on my own
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My Browning Silver started peeling after just a few hunts. Looked like heck after just 1/2 a season.
Browning CS told me to pound sand
My SBE II is fine going into it's 4th season in the field.
I've never had one problem with any camo Benelli.
I guess you just never know
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www.refugeforums.com is #1 for me, with no one even close after that
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I keep seeing these guys post of devastating patterns out to 60+yds. I have tried almost every choke / shell combo ( including the fomous rhino 660) in my sbe2. I have one combo of some special re-loads and a kicks 655, that gives me 372 pellets in a 9" circle at 35 yds. thats devastating but add another 10 yds, and its a difference of night and day. the bore size of my gun, is 719, I tried to get a good friend of mine to back bore my barrel to 735-740, but he said no way. the 2nd time I ask him, he said he would for 10,000 dollars and smiled. if benelli would offer a barrel with a larger bore size, I would buy it yesterday. I have e-mailed benelli, but have not got a response, so that's why I went and bought a new sx3 that I 'm getting dialed in now. what are your thoughts???
Yep, underbored Benellis can peter out at 35-40 yards, especially the last barrels cut before they replace the cutter. I've got one of those .719 SBE's that you have, and while I LOVE the gun and take it almost everywhere, it does not print dense patterns much past 38-40 yards.
I have friends with .723 barrels that pattern much better.
I have been told that back-boring a Benelli semi-auto can make the gun stop cycling.
You can't build an inertia gun that works a certain way with certain measurements and then simply just offer a back-bored barrel. It's not that easy. Different story for pumps and stack barrels probably.
I like the SX3, but I own a Browning Silver, Gold, and two BPS's, and I assure you, just being over-bored does not just magically make the guns pattern themselves. For me, I have not found a magic Invector Plus combination that is substantially better than my current SBE II. I'm sure I'll find it someday, but if I keep my shots under 40 yards, which is probably a good range anyway, I don't really need anything other than my SBE II and Jellyhead or Rhino .660.
Good luck!
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I still love H-13. I shoot it in 12 gauge 3.5" #6's, SBE II, Jellyhead .660, for the most part. It is my favorite early season load.
Later on in the season and on road trips, I tend to go with the Win XR's in #6's and #5's. Higher velocity for a little more yardage.
I've yet to kill a bird with my 10 gauge BPS and H-13 #5's, but this may be the year
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Hello Benelli…
Is this pattern produced by the new “Vinci”???
Please let me know as I want to buy a "Vinci"….
But… even if it’s not, don’t worry, dear Benelli, …… my master gunsmith will make it in to a DEADLY GUN ,…NO MATTER WHAT!!!
May God bless the Benelli factory and Mr. Theo for I now have the best guns on Earth!
Hey 3,
How big is that circle?
I'll see what I can do at the patterning board
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now im being serious i was wondering WHY the holes on the outside of the circle are so much smaller than the holes inside the circle? or maby its just me
Because he is marking the holes on the inside with some sort of special 'Mr. Theo' pen
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I'm really liking Federal Black Cloud #3's - the Duckman box - with any IC choke (non-ported). I may even order a skeet choke for next season.
I have not had ONE torn up bird so far, but I don't get too many very close up shots.
I can get the Federal BC's for under $200 a case delivered from Able Ammo.
SBE2 Quality?
in Benelli
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No.
I have one SBE with maybe 25,000 rounds of steel shot through it. It has broken two hockey stick ejector plates since 1991, but no broken firing pins.