mudhen
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Thinking about getting a super black eagle 2 for turkey hunting this spring just wanting to know if everyones had good luck with them, thanks!
Yes.
It's my favorite mid-range turkey gun by far.
Do a search here and you will find a few posts about the SBE II and turkey hunting.
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I use a Rhino .660 choke and Nitro Company Ammunition (3-1/2") in my SBE II and can consistently put 9 or more pellets in a turkey target vitals at 50 yards. NOTHING patterns better than Nitro 4x5x7 Hevi-Shot with the chokes they recommend. I consistently crumple birds at 40 - 50 yards with Nitro loads (10+ toms dropped with zero cripples). Sure, they're $6.00 a shot, but turkey hunting is a 1-shot deal!
Nine pellets at 50 yards is unacceptable for my needs. Take that shot often enough, and you may lose a bird or two. Remember, you are pretty much trying to hit (and shatter bone) a walnut sitting on a pencil at 50 yards. Nine tiny HS pellets is not my idea of great odds. Sure, you will get the golden BB's, but I can't accept the golden BB theory on a regular basis.
I've bought shells from Ray for many years and can easily put 8-15 pellets in the vitals at 50 yards with that Rhino choke or the Jellyhead, but most of those pellets are the HS 7's, which are actually more like slag 9's or 10's.
Spend some time at the NWTF board and you will see how a Nitro shell gets dissected. Many tear apart the shells and measure EACH pellet
They do work though, I've had Ray make up some 10 gauge loads that are close to $10 per shell.Here's the deal for me; if I lived in turkey country and could hunt every day, I'd probably shoot 2.75" or 3" at best copper coated lead from a .660 or maybe .665 choke.
But I don't live in turkey country or at least I don't have access to the private land in Cali that holds the most birds, so I like to hunt with the best equipment I can afford and I want all of my guns to throw the best pattern money can buy.
I'm not going to take a week off and head to Nebraska, pay all the fees, airfare, rental car, etc. and bring a weak patterning gun with me. It's just not going to happen.
But this is just my take!
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Hey Dave,
I'll mail you guys a copy of a California NWTF Yelper regional magazine with me and a DS hen turkey decoy on the cover.
Anything new for this spring? I have heard about some new positions.
I hunt with Ben Williams in Willows, he sure seems to like your speck decoys
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Dave Smith for local work, although she would probably be super on the road in Kansas, Missery, Nebraska, etc.
For travel, I like Sceery inflatables, nice and dark, they have worked well for me since they came out. I'll use them locally as well.
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This morning my wife bought an M2 for me for a Christmas present. When I got it home and began to assemble it, I noticed that the inside of the fore-end had a crack in it. The crack could not be seen until the fore-end was being slipped off the magazine tube. So now I have to send (at my expense BOTH ways) this brand new, not even assembled gun back to Benelli for repair. WHAT A DISAPPOINTMENT!
Anyone else had this problem, and how long might it take to get the gun back?
I've seen a few broken M2/SBE II forearms. Most are broken by the gun owner the first time they put it together. It's a very tight fit over the end of the mag tube, and can break fairly easily if improperly installed or when being removed.
Not one of my favorite bugs of the M2/SBE II
I sanded mine a bit to make it easier to remove.
Yours could have been broken by someone at the shop or maybe even by you without knowing it.
Glad to hear Benelli will take care of it
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Being underbored, the SBE II can be touchy to dial in. Unless you get a real peach, don't expect dense 50 yards patterns with your SBE II. It might happen, it just hasn't for me with any Benelli since 1990.
But since I rarely shoot past 25-30 yards, this is not a big deal for me. I've got several BPS's set up for long range work, mostly for some open terrain out of state hunts.
Best choke so far for me in the SBE II has been the Jellyhead .660 with Win XR #6's. Very nice pattern out to about 38-40 yards, but it falls completly apart after that.
Good luck!
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How bout ya, Mudhen? Can I install it myself?
Sorry, I'm busy hunting this time of year and don't spend much time here.
I've done quite a few myself.
But, I've butchered a few as well.
If the allen-head screws will back out ok, you have a chance. If not, I've had to drill some out, which ruins the cover plate.
I heat them up and try to burn/pick out as much grime as possible. Use a good allen wrench and see if the screws will back out.
Be ready to buy new screws and a new cover plate if something goes wrong.
Also, remember to buy a new ejector spring while you are at it.
Good luck!
mudhen
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That depends.
Which ejector version do you have?
Brownell's has the old hockey stick version that is held in place by the plate and two allen head screws.
I have never replaced the newer sheet metal version myself, so I don't know who stocks them. The one I know of that broke was sent back to Benelli and they fixed it.
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You have been given the correct advice already - read your manual
But, if you are using the beads, don't expect much change as drop and cast only really work for shooters that don't use the bead.
I've been able to get some nominal change (useful for turkey hunting) from drop and cast adjustments when using the beads to aim, but I get better results when adjusting for pure wingshooting where the beads are generally not used.
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Needle nose pliers used as a lever worked for me - just put a cloth under it so you don't mar the finish.
It gets easier over time.
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My thoughts are that many game animals are baited by man-made food or shelter in one manner or another.
Deer and turkeys are commonly baited with food plots, as are dove, quail, pheasants, etc. Waterfowl are attracted by artificially planted foods such as duckweed, sago, Johnson grass, etc.
For someone to bash a legal method of attracting a game animal is pure drivel. Sorry Tuck, but your reply is one of the most ignorant things I have ever seen on the Internet
Using your logic, no one should ever be able to hunt next to a food source. How far away is far enough Tuck? Who gets to decide? You? Why? Who are you? You have issues with Paul and I suspect the color green has something to do with it 
The location in question is Paul's Pond in Washington state. Paul set up the club in complete accordance with all applicable state and federal laws. He actually requests that LE inspect his operation to ensure legality. His club is a non-issue.
As far as legal baiting changing flyways, deal with it. It's a land-owners right to legally use his or her property in any manner they see fit.
I think hunting pressure has much more to do with hunting success than many realize. I know many great clubs that do nothing more than offer the birds a place to rest and loaf. They only hunt 1-2 days a week and they stop hunting at noon.
But if baiting is the issue, I am confident in letting the proper authorities set the rules rather than letting Internet Wizards with chips on the shoulders set the rules.
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Browning barrels for semi-autos cost $400-$500 and are scarce.
I would say that Benelli barrels cost more at retail because they cost more at wholesale.
The exchange rate does not help.
Spare barrels are dog sellers. What is Benelli USA to do with barrels that don't sell well? What is a Benelli dealer to do with a slow selling barrel?
Other than a slug barrel, I have known few that ever buy a spare barrel. I've known some to trade barrels, but I've known few to really want a second or third barrel for any gun they own.
I think it might be nice if Benelli had plenty of spare barrels to satisfy every customer's whim, but in reality, I really don't care
mudhen
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The standard reply I have been given for the past 20 years by anyone at Benelli about the .723 bore (btw, I have had Benellis from .718 - .724) has been "so the gun will work". The gist is that inertia guns need smaller bores. This is what I have been told over the years.
My personal opinion is that under-bored barrels pattern small pellet loads well, but as the pellet size goes up, back-bored/over-bored barrels start to pattern better.
I tend to shoot smaller pellet loads in my Benellis and larger pellet loads in my Brownings.
Just my take.
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Yes...That is the part that is chipping off. I cleaned out the Spring and the butt of the gun. I notice a little more wear in that area every time I use the gun.
Purely cosmetic in my opinion. I've got very old SBE's that show some minor wear like this. They have held up for 18+ seasons, so I think yours will be fine
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No problem with Federal ammunition in maybe 25+ shotguns and rifles since 1978
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ONE... MY FOOT!!!
Any way ,mudhen, you are a damn good hunter man , i like when you post those pictures of your hunts.
But don't push me much , or i will post some patterns with my Benelli Mythos ... with 3oz. of #4's, but again, i am afraid that you will ...fall from your chair!!!
Get over yourself son
A 2.25 oz Nitro #6 lead has well over 500 pellets and I can easily keep almost all of them all in the 30" ring at 40 yards with 3-4 of my turkey guns. I have a BPS that can put almost 400 in the 10" on a regular basis.
Now take a Nitro 2 7/16 #6 lead that has around 570 pellets in it and many mediocre turkey guns can put 500 hits in the 30".
Now, take a 2.25 oz or 2 7/17 oz Nitro Hevi Shot #6 and with all the odd pellets and slag and you can approach 600 pellets, making 500 child's play.
Now let me tune a few guns later this year and early next year, and I'll try to show you some real targets, not your silly 30" quail shots
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With how many ...shells?
One. No smilie.
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Does ...your Benelli .......do this?...!!!
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Yes........
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I've never seen another sbe II lock up when manually working the bolt without a shell unless the cartridge lever has been depressed. Probably need to check out NJ's previous posts.
I said hang up, not lock up. I know what I write
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In my other post I mentioned this it would happen first shot only of an outing and seemed to be with 4dram federal wing shok shells. when it happens it fails to eject the shell and the bolt needs to be pushed forward. What I mentioned is that i was trying to see where the bolt was hanging up and if you pulled itback and pushed it forward and repeated this a bunch of times you could take your hand off the bolt handle when it was all the way back and it would look locked but if you pushed forward it would go, try it on your gun see if you can get it to hang up
It will hang up manually without a shell. All of my Benellis do this. None of mine do it with shell on the carrier.
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He said nothing about the bolt locking back abnormally. I think he is just referring to when he locks the bolt back manually by depressing the cartridge drop lever.
Yes, hearing the spring move around is normal - it's part of the reason the gun works.
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Mudhen,
Are the Primos Dead Zone chokes be suitable for Blackcloud shot?
I don't know for sure as I don't work for Primos.
But, I have shot BC through DZ chokes and Carlson unported chokes with good results and will continue to do so.
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Help me out you all.has anyone tried this choke tube yet?
Nope, and I don't plan on it. Carlson makes a BC choke and all that is different is a coating of some kind that reduces fouling from the BC wad. They said you don't even really need their BC tube if you don't shoot that much BC and/or keep your chokes clear of plastic fouling. I do shoot quite a bit of BC, but I also clean my chokes frequently.
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I'm sure you will get a few "you don't never need no 3.5"" replies, but I have always preferred the SBE/SBE II over the M1/M2 series guns.
I like the shape and style of the SBE II over the M2. I like the semi-hump of the SBE II. I think the SBE II is made better - it feels better to me - points better, etc. I like the upper half of the SBE receiver being steel.
But, the M2 is a fine shooting weapon, better than most, so you really can't go wrong either way.
What's in the Box
in Benelli
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Absolutely no hints from the 2009 SHOT Show so far, at least that's what my dealer said.
I have wanted to buy a new Benelli for a few years. Maybe this is lucky #13? All hunting guns btw....
Box looks a little like an O/U. I hope not.....