dagrizz
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If you don't need to use 3.5 inch shells another alternative would be the M2 in Walnut. Nice gun, I've had mine for a couple of years now and it is a great shooting gun. I have the factory recoil pad on it as well and have gone through several flats of shells ith no problems.Originally posted by ryemoon:I have been using a SHotgun that has a 28 inch barrel. I am looking at buying a Benelli but I am finding it extremely hard to find a SBE2 with walnut stock and 28 inch barrel. Secondly, what is the opinion of getting a SBE2 without the comfortech. Does anybody valdi opinion???
Mike
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No my M2 is a right handed field model.Originally posted by bonoiam:Dagrizz, Is your M2 a LH model?
As much as I love the technolgy and the style it will be very hard for me to buy a benelli the next time I purchase a shotgun.
This was my first Benelli. It has never missed a chance to go bang. In 2.5 years it has only had 2 misfires and those were both bad shells. Each one had a good dimple in the primer but did not go bang.
As of now we have 3 Benelli's in ouur house. My M2 my wifes Montefeltro and a Nova that I just won at a DU shoot the first of July. All of these guns have been relaible to date. The jury is still out on the Nova as I have only put 1 box of shells through it so far. It will be my beater gun for hunting.
Mike
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That is interesting. Which Estate shells are you using. I have run probably 20 or 30 flats through my M2 with out a hitch. They were all the Super Sporting Competition target Loads in 3 dram 1.125 ounce #8's and 2.75 dram eq 1 ounce #8's.Originally posted by bonoiam:I have been using the estate brand (cheaper), and he indicated that may be the issue. He was going to clean it up and make some adjustsments. He was very nice and offered a lot of info about the gun.
Mike
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Yeah I noticed the same thing this morning. At least now I know it is not my end taht is having th eproblems.Originally posted by tucker301:Looks like they're having some server or hosting problems.
Try again later.
Mike
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I have an M2 Field with a wood stock that I was using for Sporting Clays. I talked to a couple of custom stock makers about getting a better stock for that endeavor. They all indicated that there would be the possibility that the gun would not reliably cycle due to the added weight of the target style stocks.Originally posted by wacki:The guys at this website
Make some very beatiful guns. They told me that the new M1's and M2's go into single shot mode if you put a custom wood stock on it. Apparently they need the light weight to work the inertia drive. Can anyone confirm this?
If you notice the factory stocks, bothg wood and plastic, are heavily hollowed out. If you add to much weight to the gun it can not overcome it and therefore not cycle. That is the issue, not being to light.
There have been other discussion about shooters adding weight to their guns to reduce recoil and then encountering cycling problems with them.
Mike
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A second for Tucker. That is what came with my M2 as well.Originally posted by tucker301:Yes.
As a side note, don't go tighter than Mod with stel shot.
Mike
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Unfortunately I don't think so. The 2 stocks are definately different.Originally posted by smetana_74:hi everyone, i was wondering, i want to buy a LEFT HANDED benelli M2, but i really want a wood stock, can i buy a M1/ sbe wood sock and put it on it?
The nice thing about the M2 shims are that you can adjust the cast for a left handed shooter along with the drop.
So get an M2 and adjust the cast with the shioms and you will be good to go.
Mike
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Well that is ok, but I used my wood stocked M2 Field last year for Trap, 5-Stand and Sporting Clays along with its hunting duties. In trap I shoot about 80 to 85%. In 5-Stand and Sporting I shoot about 60%. The issue is not the gun, it is me.Originally posted by smetana_74:which one would be better for sporting clays, and pheasnt hunting. im leaning toards the montefeltro because of the wood stock.
So far the M2 has bagged 14 pheasant, 3 Canada Geese, 2 mallards, 1 Pintail and 2 Chuckar in the 2 seasons that I have owned it.
So either one would be good. The advantage of the M2 is that it might be a little heavier which is a good thing in the clays games. There you shoot many birds as opposed to hunting where you shoot a few then wait then maybe a few more. A typical day of clay shooting is upwards of 100 to 200 birds in a day a coule of days a week. Throw in a Sporting Clays tournament or 2 and that number can go up to 300 to 500 rounds in a weekend.
Mike
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I have an M2 Field that has been used for a lot of clay sports including trap, 5 stand and sporting clays. I had averaged about 3 flats a month of target loads through it with no problems.Originally posted by Zig:My next Benelli purchase is going to be a trap gun and possibly a future bird hunting gun.
Is it really worth the extra $400-500 for the Cordoba? Does the porting and the external choke really add that much value?
I really like the Cordoba and the M2 feels nice as well, but I'd like some input from people who may have had experience with both.
Thanks!
It has also been very good for the bird hunting as well. The take so far for 2 seasons that I have owned it:
14 Pheasant, 2 ducks, 3 Canada Geese, and 2 chuckars.
Mike
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My factory M2 chokes are not a good choice above Modified and Briley reccomends that you stay with mod or more open chokes for their Extended chokes that I have as well.Originally posted by AnyDucks:I have an M2 -- Are there any concerns using Hevi-Shot #4 with full choke?
#4 Hevishot worked great through my M2 last duck season. Also shot geese with #2 and #B with the extended MOD choke as reccomended by Briley.
So the short answer is to stay with MOD.
Mike
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For the stocks, contact your local Benelli Dealer. They should be able to order them for ya. That is how I got my replacement wood stock for my M2.Originally posted by CatMonkey:Where can a consumer purchase a stock upgrade for Montefeltro and different recoil pads for the SBEII? Is this available only through Benelli? While I see these accessories listed on the website, none are offered in the Benelli Store online. Thanks for any information.
Just tell them what you want and be ready to pay through the nose. I have seen 2 Benellis that had the executive wood on them and the stocks were aproximatelt an additional $1000.00 for just the wood. But boy were they pretty.
Mike
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Those shells should not be a problem. I have shot about 15 flats of the Estate 3 Dram 1 Ounce #8's through my M2 with out a faillure to fire. I go through about 3 flats a month of those shells. I would definately look into cleaning the recoil spring in the stock and also, not sure if you do this or not, but also strip down the bolt and clean all of the parts in it as well. Go real light on the oil when you do this. I generally wipe it down to get all of the excess oil off. It does not tke much for this gun. If you have to much oil it will also cause problems with cycling. The oil that I use is Balistol.Originally posted by bonoiam:I have a M2 and I seem to have a problem with it cycling. When I first bought the gun I have this problem and after reading this board and the manuel I put 100 rounds of heavy game load through the gun. While shooting the heavy load it worked perfect except for the throbing in my shoulder. Last night shooting 5 stand on the second round I stated having a cycling issue, at the end everytime very frustrating. To make it worse a friend I shoot with is a browning devote and really rubs it in. I was shooting 3 dram, 7.5 shot 1 1/8 load, estate brand from sportsman wharehouse.. I clean the gun after every outing down to the firing pin. I have not cleaned the spring/parts in the stock of the gun. A friend of mine bought a super sport II at the same time. He shoots AA shells normal target load and has never had a cycle issue. Is the problem the cheap shells or the gun.
Thanks for the help.
Hope this helps you out.
Mike
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I may have missed it in the prior post, but the BUT PLATE/Recoil pad on the M2's is a slip in. There are no screws that hold it in. Very similar to the SBE II.Originally posted by tucker301:One footnote to the otherwise excellent advice given by remarkable.
Your M2 should be a newer model that has a nylon retaining washer in the nut on the recoil tube.
There is no loctite, and heat may damage the washer.
This will be clearly illustrated in your owner's manual.
Mike
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Thanks Mudhen.Originally posted by mudhen:I tested the Limbsaver for the SBE II tonight.
I think it feels the same as the Benelli Gel-Pad that came with the gun.
If I had to describe it, I'd say the pressure feels more evenly distributed with the LS, but the felt recoil is about the same.
Not a total waste of $32, but I would not buy one again...
mudhen - CA
Good check and test report.
I was considering getting one for my M2 but I think I will buy another flat of shells instead.
Mike
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I would have to agree with Tucker on this one. I have about 12K rounds through my M2 and never noticed that. I have shot trap and 5 stand in 15 to 20 degree weather with no problems. The Win AA's should not be a problem but I know that the AA's also come in a feather lite recoil that wont even cycle in my M2. The one thing is that my M2 wont cycle anything less than 2.75 Dram Eq and 1 Ounce loads.Originally posted by ricks:I have been using a LH M2 since June of 2005. The gun works fine above 70 degrees. Below that, the gun doesnt consistantly lock the bolt. I also notice the bolt stops siding shut as fast after 20 shells and the inside is pretty dirty. I disassemble it after each Sporting Clay shoot and clean every component with Hoppes 9 and oil it with the Benelli Oil(one drop on each slide.
I shoot AA Super Sport shells, and have shot about 10 cases to this point. Any ideas would be great. I am about ready to go back to the Citori.
Thanks
Rick
After about a years use I cleaned the recoil spring and noticed it was fairly dirty in there. But I still had no cycling issues.
So give the recoil spring a good cleaning.
Mike
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1) No. Why do I need a slug barrel for a duck gun?Originally posted by mudhen:Ok, but can you get an O/U slug barrel for that gun?
Does in come in camo?
Does the safety make too much noise?
mudhen - CA
I don't hunt anything that would require a slug.
It is chambered for 3 inch shells though.
2) If needed it could be camoed. But why. I
never hunted with a camoed gun in the past so
why would I start now?
3) The safety is extremely quiet. I can also
change to different choke first at the flip of
another quiet switch. Can you??
An old navy joke that has to do with the Blue Angels goes something like this:
As they aproached a 4 engine transport they decided to have some fun with the pilot of it. They did a whole bunch of aerobatic manuvers that the transport could not. At the end of each maneuver they would ask the pilot if he could do that. His response was alway a quiet no.
When they were all done showing off, the transport pilot reached up to the console and shut down 2 of the 4 engines. Then the transport pilot asked the Blue Angels if they could do that. Only silence answered the trandport pilot.
Thanks for all of the good information though and I will continue to look to ya for the "Correct" answers.
have a good week.
Mike
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Well folks I went and did it.
As some of you might note I have been pretty good about using my M2 for clay shooting and have posted so. It has done me well for the past year and a half that I have owned it. It is an M2 Field with 28 inch barrel and a pretty nice looking wood stock.
Well this last Friday I came across a beautifull used Beretta 682 Gold Sporting with 30 inch barrels. So that is what is now going to be my dedicated sporting clays gun. The gun has been ported and talking to Seminole Gun Works, it appears that they also lengthend the forcing cones and back bored the barrels. This gun shoots sweet. Of all of the O/U's that I have tried, this one kicks less than My M2. The only gun that kick less are the Beretta 390's and 391's which I have also tried.
So my good buddy M2 is going to get a needed break untill the next hunting season. This gun has been going through about 3 flats a month plus registered birds with out a hick up. For hunting it has gotten me 14 pheasants, 3 Canadian Geese, 1 Pintail Drake, 1 Mallard Drake and now 2 Chuckar. So I have no complaints about it. It is a great gun. And no it wont be for sale.
The only issue that I had was when I started looking into fitting and other stock options, most of the quality shops said that I would probably not be happy as all the added weight or extra work could cause it to not be as reliable for cycling. That is the only reason for the O/U. These same issues are probably true for the Sports and the Cordoba as well.
To all of ya, especially Tucker and Mudhen, thanks for all of the great information. I will still be here but maybe not quite as much as before.
Mike
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I knew we could count on you to dispell that myth.Originally posted by tucker301:That makes him another clueless gun salesman.
Well put.
Mike
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From the sounds of it it is very similar to the one in my wifes Montefeltro.Originally posted by ccasanova:My cordoba shipped without the plug and Benelli keeps telling my dealer that they don't have any in stock to ship. Is there anything I can to to make the gun legal? or complain to Benelli? I can't ever get through to customer service.
Try one of those to see if it would work.
Mike
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Here are my comments about the M2 that I own.Originally posted by BPGuy:I'm wondering - Are the Benelli Shotguns with the same operating system having similar troubles?
If you own a Benelli with the Inertia Operating System, please post your experience(s) here, good or bad. Also, please post what type (brand, shot size & weight, etc) as there is some discussion that ammo may be at fault.
Thank you all in advance!
I have an M2 field with a wood stock and 28 inch barrel. I use it for Trap, 5-Stand, Sproting Clays and hunting. I have compared the recoil of this configuration against the comfortech stocks using the same loads through a round of 5-stand (25 Birds) and cannot tell the difference in recoil. I did notice slightly less recoil with the Beretta 390's though. But not enough difference to offset all of the jamming issues that I have seen with them at the range and sporting clays courses.
I average about 3 flats a month for the clay sports with out any gun related failures to fire. THis is over a 2.5 year period that I have had this gun. I use 2.75" 2.75Dram Eq., 1 ounce #8s for my clays shooting.
In the hunting department I bagged 14 pheasant 2 seasons ago, but so far none this last season.
This last season I went on a goose hunt where I used 3" #2 and #B heavy shot. I could not tell the difference in recoil between these shells and the 1 ounce target loaads that I use. This is after going through 2 boxes of each. I was able to get 3 nice canadians. Part of this trip was also a duck hunt and it performed great there as well. This time I was using 2.75" #4 heavy shot with out any noticeable differences in recoil. I was only able to get 2 ducks though. One was a nice mallard drake and the other was a pintail drake. Since the linmit here includes only 1 pintail, and most all of the ducks that were cooperating were pintails that limited my bag.
So far this year I have gotten 2 Chuckar.
So I think that you can say the M2 and the real inertia system are a pretty darn reliable combination.
Mike
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I had similar questions when I ordered a set of X2 extended chokes for my M2. I ordered them so that I could easier change chokes at sporting clays shoots.Originally posted by porwal22:Hello all!
I'm new to the list, and just purchased a Benelli Supersport. I'm interested in getting a light full, and full Briley titanium chokes (for trap shooting). Are there any differences between the two chokes that they sell (Crio Sport , and Crio Plus)on their website ? Which ones fit correctly ? ---HELP !!!
What I did was call them and talk to a real person who could answer your questions then place your order witht that person. Had my chokes a couple of days later. They were also offering buy 5 and get one free.
I don't know if they pattern any better than the factory chokes, I never patterned either set. Just bought them for the convenience.
Mike
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That is about $200 less than I paid for mine, wood stock version, about 2 years ago.Originally posted by ROB63:Hello everyone, I just purchased a new M2 Camo w/comfortech and crio barrel and tubes. It is a little more money than I normally spend for a shotgun but thought I would give it a try. The dealer had it marked at 1149.00 and after 2 hrs of haggling walked out with it for 950.00 + tax. Did I get a good deal or get hosed?
So that is not to bad a deal.
Mike
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I'll second what Mudhen has to say. But then I will also add in my own extra comments.Originally posted by mudhen:Two totally different guns IMHO.
The feel different, shoulder different, assembly different, sight different, etc.
I've always liked the option to shoot 3.5". Old and slow 3.5" loads were lame, but the new 3.5" shells can really shine in some applications.
I've heard only things good about the M1/M2 line.
Myself, I'd never spend $1000 on an M2 if the SBE II was $1200.
I'd spend some time at the dealer and shoulder both.
mudhen - CA
The choices should come down to what are you going to do with this gun. If you are just going upland bird and occasionally ducks/geese then I would choose the M2. I bagged 3 Canadians, 1 Pintail drake and a mallard drake with my M2 this last season. THe year before it bagged 14 pheasant. So if you match the loads with what your intended target is then you probably don't need the 3.5 inch capablity.
I also use my M2 for Sporting Clays and 5-Stand. In this application it cycles 2.75 dram 1 Ounce #8's all day. The SBE might not, then again the M2 might not but has a better chance of doing that for all day shooting. You would need to work down to those loads to see if your gun reliably cycles them.
The chouice ulimately comes down to your intended use.
Either one is an exceptional gun.
Mike
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Can't let you have all that much fun alone Tucker.
I bought my M2 in August 2004. Since that time I have averaged a little over 3 flats a month at the gun club where I shoot 5-Stand mostly and some 16 yard trap. I also go to alt least 8 or 10 sporting clays shoots a year with it. So there are another 6 to 8 flats a year.
Right out of the box it has cycled 2.75 dram 1.125 ounce loads flawlesly. I now just shoot 1 ounce loads for targets.
To date, I am not the serious hunter that you and others are but between this last season and last year I have gotten 14 pheasants, 2 Lesser Canadians, 1 Greater Canadan, 2 Pintails and a Mallard Drake.
I have hunted and shot in rain so heavy I have had black mudd running out of my action after shooting when the bolt stayed open after the last round.
But the only failure that I have had is that the dagg nabbed thing doesn't break every clay pigieon or bird I shoot at.
Guess I better send it back in for repair huh?
Every time I have set up on a target or bird and pull the triggger it has gone BANG.
All I ever do when I get it home is lovingly take it down and clean er up real good and get er ready for the next time.
I just had to throw my 2 cents worth into the hat.
Mike
single shot shooting a SBEII
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So keep plugging away at those little clay pigeons.
Mike