dagrizz
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I will have to vote with Tucker. If you don't need the 3.5 inch shells go with the M2.Originally posted by sdkidaho:So if I am going to go for my first automatic, primarily for the field, and primarily for upland game, but still will want to do water fowl, the SBEII is my best bet?
As to the comments about reliability, I have run over 3000 rounds through my M2 since August of last year with out any failures to cycle.
Some people that I shoot Sporting Clays with have the 391's and they have jamming issues at least once a shoot, sometimes more and they are very serios about keeping their guns clean.
So go for the M2 or SBE II.
Mike
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Well as to reliability, I have between 2500 and 3000 rounds through my M2 with out a hitch. These rounds include upland bird hunting and clay pigeons. The only misfires I have had were my fault and not the guns or the amunition. The longest I have gone between cleaning is 5 rounds of 5-stand. I usually cleanit after every round of shooting.Originally posted by cherok9878:Just an information input for the M2 Field. My new M2 is thru it's break in period and I wondered about reliability. The gun was put thru eight full rounds of clays without any cleaning what so ever. I know some of you will throw rocks at me for this but it was to prove or disprove a point. In 800+ rounds there was only one stovepipe and it was my fault, limp shoulder bad mount. Reliability isn't a question anymore.
Mike
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Truer words were never written. [/QB]It seems that the general consensus is that the Nova is a better gun than the 870 Express. That may be. But what about the 870 Wingmaster. I have one of those that is over 30 years old and still going strong. I would not trade it for any thing. Now back to the Nova.Originally posted by tucker301:quote:
the 870 is a **** of a lot cheaperWith all of the comments to date about it, I wonder how it will be perceived 30 years from now? If it will still be in production in the same form so that those 30 year old guns can get repair parts if they ever wear out. That will be the judge, jury and executioner for this gun.
I wish it well as the new 870.
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I don't know if they make the OEM crio choke tubes for Benelli or not. But I just bought a set for my M2.Originally posted by GW:I e-mailed customer service a few days ago to get recomendations for turkey choke tubes and loads for the SBE2. I didn't get any helpful info, just kind of a generic resoponse, but, they did say the extra-full choke will be available later this year....after turkey season:-(
Mudhen, does Briley make the OEM crio choke tubes for Benelli?
I just ordered a set of extended chokes from them. You order 6 and pay for 5. I got the following:
Imp Cyl, Lt Mod, Mod, Imp Mod, Lt Full and Full
They do offer an extra full choke, I just don't feel a need for that one at this time.
They came in a nice box for $245.00 for the set. They are what they call BEN-CRIO-PLUS. I shot 5-Stand tonight with the MOD choke and seemed to do ok. I got them for sporting clays and hunting and being extended chokes I don't need to carry a choke wrench.
I checked them visually against the flush Crio Chokes that came with my M2 and they looked identical except for being Black and Extended. I did not bother to check them with the calipers. They looked close enough and fit nicely in the barel.
[ 04-05-2005, 11:11 PM: Message edited by: dagrizz ]
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Actually this is one time that I have to stand up and say that TUCKER301 is right on the mark.Originally posted by Saguaro Kid:Well I'm not suprised there are people like you on the internet!!!!
The gun was conceived, designed and built specifically for SPROTING CLAYs. In fact I am looking at getting one in the near future.
If you wanted a gun that can do most of it you should consider either an M2 or SBE II. I have the M2 and it has done everything for me except the slug gun issue. The only reason that I don't have a slug gun is that I have no need for one.
Mike
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Check the primer depth on the shells that misfired.Originally posted by alabamasooner:Want to go turkey hunting this next weekend in Alabama. Went to a range and fired game shot (8s) to check out sights; then fired off some 3 1/2 Inch Winchester Magnums. 3 1/2 inches were a little much for me.
Later bought 3 inch Winchester Mags. Tried 4 and everyone misfired. Tried a 3 1/2 inch and it fired. Regular 8 Game Shot also fired. Tried 3 inch ones again but from different box. Same misfire.
Noted that the 3 inch ones did not eject well either.
Any ideas on what the problem is or how to fix it?
A week or so ago we had a similar situation at the range with a Beretta O/U. The bottom barel would fire but not the top. Shells came from the same box. When the ones that did not fire were placed in the bottom barel they worked fine.
One of the wiser folks there noticed that the primers were seated to deep in this case. The owner of the gun bougt some Gun Clubs at the range and the problem went away.
Mike
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I think that you will really enjoy that gun.
I bought one last August and it has been a pleasure to shoot. Although mine has a 28 inch barell and the wood stock.
This gun was bought for hunting and has kept me in pheasant all season. Did not do any ducks or geese though. It has been 30 years since my last hunt and wanted to start back into it rather easily.
Can't wait till upland bird season starts up again. Next season I might add a goose hunt or 2 along with the possibility of gettign some ducks as well. We have some fairly good Snow Geese populations out here.
I also shoot between 2 to 4 rounds of either 16 yard trap or 5 Stand with it twice a week and it has never let me down. The only other guns that I ave seen that operate this reliably are O/U's. That works out to about 3000 or more rounds with no problems. I am going out with a group from the local gun club and shout my first round of sporting clays this week end.
So treat it with lots of loving care by using it for what it was meant for and you will have a good gun that should last you a lifetime.
Mike
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I think tha he also did an Olive drab one. I liked it better. But again given the choice I would still choose wood.Originally posted by tucker301:I wonder what they'd say if they saw this one?
If you were in the military and somewhere that was not so pleasant, I would in that case chose one that matches the environment that I was in.
Mike
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I have to agree with EFLOYD.Originally posted by EFLOYD:I agree, but I do have the wood and matte version of the SBEII....believe me, when someone sees it they do take a second look normally followed with a "what kind gun is that".....so I believe that even though a nice blued shiney finish would get attention and look great, it still gets it's fair share of admiration as it is.
I have an M2 and it is wood and mat finish on the barel. The receiver is blued though. All of the guns the dealer showed me were the plastic or camo "BASS BOAT" style. Now I know I will get flamed for that. But that is my personal preference. I got one of the only wood versions they had. I like the wood finish. My old (late 1960's) 870 is wood and it has gotten many ducks and geese.
Every where I take it people have to ask what gun it is. Since it is wood they don't recognize t as a Benelli.
I was back in the gun shop last weekend and they were delivering some guns back to fellow that bought what was called executinve wood for his Benelli's. The cost was about $1000 per gun installed. Boy was it nice wood though.
Mike
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The game Warden that I ran ito here this winter had a delrin ( kinda like teflon but more durable)rod that he inserted into the magazine to check to see how many shells it would hold. It had markings on it for different shell lenghts.Originally posted by tucker301:Here they simply ask us for three of our own shells.
He was more interesteds in my new Benelli M2 than in checking things out.
Mike
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Another one that you might consider is an M2 Field.
I purchased one a few months ago and it is great. It is kind of a between the 2 of a Monteleftro and an SBE II. Does 3 inch and not the 3.5's. It also has the CRIO system barells. It is also a little bit heavier thatn the monte but also alittle more durable. The gun shop where I bought mine steered me to the M2 from the Monte that I was considering.
All are excellent choices
Mike
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I haven't had a chance to get out shoorting for a while. LAst night I went out tto the range to shoot some trap. While cleaning the gun after one round in the pouring rain I paid a little more closer atention to that pesky pin.Originally posted by Drundel:dagrizz:
That makes some since, but why not do the line the whole length instead of just half way? But like you, I try to have mine face the back.
Why the line does not go across the top instead of only 1/2 way? I don't know. But I did notice that there are 2 small flat surfaces that are at 90 degrees to the line. They are not very noticeable but are about 0.100" at the most. They are symetrical to the line on the pin though.
I also noticed that there is some wear marks on both of them. Not much but a slightly brighter area that is is in the shape of a V. This looks like it should be normal wearthough.
Hope this helps a little bit.
Mike
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I must be some what lucky. I have the same pin on my M2 and it does not seem to matter which way it points. The way it was explained to me by the gun shop where I bought it was that this line was as an "assembly aid" for getting the firing pin back in throught the hole in it. If you look at it, the part is a cylinder with no special keying cutouts or faces on it. The only distiguishing feature is the hole for the firing pin.
I have had it pointing both directions and no problems. But I generally try to put it in pointing towards the rear. That is the way that it came from the factory.
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I have also just acquired an M2, about 3 months ago. Look at th echokes themselves. They will say whether steel shot is ok to use with them. It is engraved on each choke tube.Originally posted by Ace:Just bought an M2. For goose, can I safely use the Mod Criochoke that came with the gun to shoot Hevi-shot ? The manual doesn't say if these chokes are for lead, steel, Hevi-shot, or whatever! Can you shoot anything using these chokes? Thanks!
Mike
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Welcome. You have taken a good first step by coming here. I just got back into hunting after a many year absence.
As to learning etc. try looking into your local gun or shooting ranges. The one here that I belong to offers a shotgun 101 on the first saturday of the month.
Enjoy and good luck.
Mike
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I just recently purchased a new Benelli M2 Field and love it. It has the wooden stock and will handle 3 inch shells. There is just something about a nice piece of wood. I am also not a fan of the synthetics or camo options. Just my personal tastes. I also don't see a need for the 3.5 magnums. I have gotten geese in my younger years with a .410.
This gun is to replace a 30+ year old 16 guage remington 870 Wingmaster. This is for 2 reasons. The first is that according to Remmington or other gun shops, it wont handle the requirement of steel shot in some of the areas that I plan to hunt. The other reason is that 16 guage shells are some what hard to come by. I have checked with several different gun dealers in the area and even remington and a new barrel that could handle the new shot are not available.
I cannot compare the recoil to other guns but it is not uncomfortable to me.
So far I have run about about 50 boxes of Trap Load RIO shells through it with no problems. I have also gone through a couple of boxes of plain jane #4 steel shot for pheasants here. Again no problems
The one thing that I make sure of is that I only shoot loads of 1 and 1/8 ounce or greater. I have not tried lighter loads as they might or might not cycle well. The manual reccomends that load for a minimum.
I was going to originally purchase the Montefeltro but the dealer where I purchased the M2 recomended it over the monte. I will probably get a Monte 20 guage for my wife. She is getting interested in upland bird hunting as well.
So I dont think you could go wrong with any one of these Benelli's that you are considering.
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