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  1. Thank you guys. Now there is another thing I do not know is: should I choose a black stock or camo one? The camo looks cool, but I am afraid it may not fit any enviorment for different season or different hunting areas. For a black stock, I can also use some camo wrap to cover it. And I do not know if the camo coating is strong or not. Is it more stronger than the black finish, or the same? I do not know how they made the camo coating. Did they put the camo coating on the black or they just put the camo on the metal surface? And will the camo last for a long time? Could it protect the gun from corrosion? When I used my Nova to hunt duck, each time it got wet and rust, although it was not hard to remove the rust. I just spray some break free on the barrel and wipe off the rust. What would it do to a camo barrel? And I wonder if I use powder solvent or breakfree CLP or Rem Oil or such things to clean the gun, would they destory the camo coating? If you have a camo one, and have a long time experience on that, your experience will be highly appreicated. I used to want to look for a black one, but first it is about $100 more, and second, sometimes for some specific version (say SBEII 24"bbl) I could not find a black one in the local store, only the camo one. I wonder if the camo really worth of that $100. Thanks.
  2. I do not understand you. A 3.5" shell has larger capacity than a 3" shell, so it can either be filled in more powder or more shots. There is a balance. You can make a 3.5" with a higher pattern density or greater speed, or both. Or you can also design the 3.5" to hold so many shot pellets that they even travel slower than the 3" shots. But then why should I buy those shotshells? There are so many choices of different 3.5" loads. Anyway, a 3.5" is more versatile than a 3". As I have seen, usually a 3.5" shotshell holds a little more shots and generate a higher velocity than a 3" shotshell. All the data are printed on the box, you can see and compare and choose. Anyway, I cannot see any reason that a 3" could be superior to a 3" shotshell, except the recoil and cost.
  3. One reason: The super nova has one more round magazine capacity than the SBEII. For non-migaratory birds hunting, that could be useful, haha!
  4. Because the pellet from 3.5" could have greater velocity than 3". Read the ammo box you will find that.
  5. Benelli says the SBEII could handle anything from 2.75" to 3.5" magnum without any problem.
  6. I think they do sell barrels separtely, but it could be really expensive. For example, Nova is $300, but a barrel is about $250. And a barrel for SBEII would be $400-$600.
  7. I choose 3.5" because it will either spread more pellets to the target or put the pellets to longer range, or both. Say a 3" #2 1-1/2oz 1400fps, but for a longer shot shell, 3-1/2" #2 1-3/8oz 1550fps. Maybe you will say that difference does not have much effect, or, anything that a 3.5" can do, the 3" can also make it. But anyway, the bottom line is, 3.5" will not be worse than a 3". Another bottom line is, with a 3.5" chamber, I can still shoot 3" well.
  8. Well, mudhen, let's forget about the data at this moment. You said your 24" Nova does not pattern well. But you also said a 24" SBEII would be great gun. May I ask why do you think that? Because I am thinking between 24" and 26" SBEII, so that would be my concern. Thanks.
  9. I looked into the website Tucker provided. There is a "long vs short barrel" episode, in which the guy also stated the pattern from long or short barrels are almost identical. He did not talk about the velocity. He said the difference is the way the guns swing and the sight plane.
  10. Well, I personally like short barrels. And I do not deny that I have this inclination. But I did not get that answer by my own imagination. Besides, now I am having a 28" barrel Nova. But if you have reliable data to prove that a longer barrel could give faster shots or better pattern, I would accept that because that is the truth.
  11. Thank you. I think the 7-10fps loss per inch is very important, considering the low velocity of shots. But I never see that statement before. I bet that would not be true. Because I saw the data saying that the velocity loss per inch for a 30-06 rifle is about 10-15fps. But 30-06's pressure is much much more than a shotgun. My statement of 20-22" comes from the book "Cartridgs of the World". And you can find many many similar comments on line.
  12. Great! I am just looking some experiments like what you did. I think a systematic experiment will be better for just thinking or guessing. Could you please supply more details of your test? And, besides, did you compare the different patterns from different barrel length?
  13. I really doubt that the factory load make the shots reach their maximum speed at 26-28". I read many posts, but I have never seen that before. If you saw it, could you please give me some links? Although the bore diameter of different manufacture would differ a little, but that would not make a substantial change in result, I guess. Besides, nobody says exactly at xx.xx inch the shots reach the maximum speed. It is just approximate, say 20-22". I want a 3-1/2" shotgun, so the M2 would not be my choice.
  14. mudhen: Thank you for your comments. But, as for the speed, actually longer barrel does no good at all. For a rifle, from 24" to 26" maybe there is a speed gain of 10-30fps. But for a shot gun, not at all! Shotshells generate very very low pressure compared to a rifle cartridge (you can tell that by comparing the thickness of a shotgun barrel and a rifle barrel, even a .22LR rifle). According to the data, all the powder of a shotshell burns out when the shots reach the barrel length of 14". And the shots reach their maximum speed at around 20-22". After that, the shots will not gain speed. They will only lose speed because of the friction with the bore, but not much. Anyway, the shots coming out from a 28" barrel are by no means faster than from a 24" barrel. And it could be even slower. I like the short barrel because the gun will be easier to carry and faster to swing. It will be lighter also. I am not a big guy with long arms. I am only 5' 6", so I do not think a gun with a barrel 26 or 28" barrel will fit me better than a 24" one. If possible, I would perfer even shorter barrels, say 22" or 20". But SBEII does not have this short barrel versions. Besides, what is the shotgun you are using? And which one do you think fits you best?
  15. It may be an old topic. After I searched on line and read many reviews and answers, it seems they all make these kind of statements: 1)long barrel does not increase the speed of the shots 2)long barrel does not change the pattern 3)long barrel gives longer sight plane 4)long barrel make it easier and steadier to swing But I still really doubt the 4). I could not imagine a long barrel with so much weight far from your hand could make the swing easier or steadier. To me, I think the short barrel make it easier to handle, and I could either swing fast or slow. I could not imagine any advantage I could get by adding extra weight on the muzzle side. I really want to here what you guys think. Because I am going to buy a SBEII and I really want to buy a 24" barrel version. But I do not want to regret my choice after the purchase just because I did not have reasonable discussion and reasearch.
  16. I usually use Nova to hunt ducks. And almost every time I fire 50-60 rounds of 3-1/2 shells. And the recoil seems acceptable to me. I wonder how much recoil can the comfort tech stock reduce? Benelli ad says 48%, is that true? How does it feel? Does it make shooting a 3-1/2 like shooting a 2-3/4? I am a little worried about the reliability of the stock. Would the cheverons and the rubber cheek piece get loose after firing many rounds? I really hate anything get loose, either on my gun or on my car. That would make me feel crapy.
  17. Hi, Guys, I have a Nova pump. But I am thinking of getting a SBEII. Anybody knows where I could get the cheapest price? Now it seems that everywhere the price is about 1399 for a sythethic black stock with comfort Tech. Any cheaper place? Besides, a SBEII without comfort Tech would be about 200 cheaper. So I wonder if the comfort Tech really awesome and worth of the 200 bucks? In a gunshop I looked at a SBEII, and found the stock butt rubber and the rubber cheek piece seems pretty loose. I wonder after many rounds shooting, would it get more and more looser? How about your experience with that? Thanks a lot!
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