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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everybody !!

Very nice choice. Enjoy !!!

They are different guns NOVA (pump action)-SBEII, M2 (semi auto).Each one serves its purpose, so you will have to choose which gun is suitable for each job. For protection and some kind of hunting, for me, it's the NOVA . The reasons are : magazine capacity, variety of loads (light or super magnum) and ammunition (lethal and non lethal). But for the usual hunting which includes a fair amount of walking and quick reactions there are two options. The SBEII that can handle loads from 2 3/4" to 3 1/2" but not light loads as light as target loads without effects in its dependability and the M2 that handles loads from 2 /34" to 3 ". Not 3 1/2 " loads. They, both, use the same recoil system and they , both, have CRIO barrels. In the end between these two guns the choice is a matter of ones preferences and taste. My choice is the SBEII for reasons such as overall versality (loads, cleaning etc..) and to tell you the truth, the looks of the gun.

Not at all. That's why I said strange and not suspicious. Let me put it this way.. I make a question and I read the answers. Judging from the answers I see that they are not the kind of answers I have expected. But I kept on asking. What am I ? Since we are all law-abiding citizens, for me, there are two things left. Either I don't understand or I am too curious.

It's a bit strange that you insist so much.

IMO. It depends of the kind of hunting that someone does. It's difficult to hunt birds or some other fast game and use a shotgun with a pistol grip. The pistol grip makes you slow especially when, from the rest position you come in a second to the aim, shoot position. The pistol grip is better for hunting static game and for a more precise shooting.

Factory IC with 000 3" ( 10 pellets ) buckshot. You will have dense patterns at 25 yards and beyond and better penetration.

Thank you, each one of you, very much for the help and the advice you give me. The right combination as I see, is a very good gun and practice, or practice with a very good gun. Thank you !!

Hello, and although I am new here too, welcome, I am right handed but I shoot from my left hand for many, many years now.. I never had a problem with any gun. I include the M4 because I have it. I never used a left handed gun for any purpose. It is possible for you to need some time to get used to it but in my opinion you will not have a problem. And don't be afraid of the extracting shells. They will not hit you.

Timb99 Correct me if I understood wrong. You say that unless you do some custom work on a gun, the results are pretty much the same among them. Speaking for barrels. I agree that with a custom work done you will have better results for a specific job. But, customized results for sth specific and not an all around job. And I don't know how much better and how much you'll have to pay. Furthermore in Greece there are only 2-3 gunsmiths that do such a work and to tell you the truth I don't trust them with the results. I have shotguns cheap, expensive and really expensive (what is expensive in Greece does not meen that it's expensive in the U.S. too). I can not compare any side by side Baikal and many other brands, with the 1980 Manufrance Saint Etienne Robust 222, as I can not compare a Browning A5 with many of today's guns that I have or those I like. But 1) the A5 is very heavy for me 2) you can't use a varietty af ammo without making adjustments and 3) Greece is full of mountains. That's why I am looking for the most reliable, easy to carry best performer that is in the market. That is the reason I ask you to help me. The money.. Of course I think of the amount I will have to pay. And again that's why I ask and I take advice, so it will not be a waste of money in the end. I want all of you to know that I appreciate this conversation very much ! Thank you for your time..

Thank you both but I will agree with Mudhen. Everyone must not look for the acceptable but for the best possible.In my opinion accepteble is just another step bellow the best. Always there is a place for sth better.

I'm using Briley, extended LM choke tube. It was the best choice, for me, when using 00 buckshot, slugs or #4 loads and I'm very pleased.

It's the truth..They are not allowed for hunting. Only in shooting clubs.But it does not bother me very much. What bothers me is that Greek importers don't bother at all to improve the variety of the merchandise they import.

Thank you.. In Greece the M2 is imported without the CRIO barrel. Who knows why ..

Thank you Hogwild ! I was not offended. A few things that I have to mention. Here in Greece the population of hunters and shooters is half the population of hunters and shooters in only one state of the U.S. Rifles and handguns are not allowed. It's easy to see why I ask these questions in an American forum. You have a lot of experience. You,also, easily realize that your knowledge and my knowledge are two things you can't compare. It's not bad to seek knowledge, in my opinion and especially knowledge that comes from the experience of many different, good, people who have access to a huge variety of samples in the subject you , I, are interested in. As for using purple , blue etc colors when writing, what can I tell you ? I don't like it at all, but nobody is perfect. Anyway, this is not an excuse..

I Write In Capitals Because Most Of The Time I Write In A Hurry And Its Easier And Quicker For Me. Sometimes Although I Write In Capitals When I Save The Text It Takes A form Like This One Now. I Don't Know Why. I Think That Being In A Hurry And A Foreigner Justifies My Accent To. I Am Not The Person You Mention And I Try Hard Enough To Place My Questions Clearly . If I Do Sth Impolite Please Tell Me And I Will Change It. Thank You.

I Will Try To Explain.

I Just Asked The Importer. The M2 Comes In Greece With The Regular Barrel. Not The Crio Barrel.

THIS IS FROM THE http://www.benelli.it/Articoli/Armi.asp?ID=72 SITE LOOK AT THE DESCRIPTION THEY HAVE FOR THE M2 AND THE SBE II ... The Benelli M2 is the shotgun with the unmistakable styling given to the shape of the trigger guard group, aggressive, versatile and totally reliable under all conditions. The Benelli Comfortech™ System patent reduces uplift and shortens the time to get back on target, guaranteeing unparalleled performance and absolute comfort when firing, to make the M2 Benelli shotgun suitable for a variety of uses, from Police forces to personal defence, from hunting to target shootin --------------------------------------- SUPER BLACK EAGLE II comfort when firing, thanks to the exclusive Comfortech™patent. The recoil pad is in Technogel® anatomically designed to increase the surface area in contact with the shoulder and to decrease the force of impact the moment the gun is fired. Grip and fore-end are finished with the “Air Touch” checkering for total control of the firearm. The Cryogenic treatment ensures perfect precision and stability when firing and improves the working life of the barrel. ***** AS YOU MAY SEE THERE IS NO REFERENCE OF THE CRIO BARREL IN THE M2. MAYBE CRIO BARRELS FOR THE M2 ARE FOR AMERICA ONLY, OR MAYBE I AM WRONG. I REALLY DON'T KNOW.

Thank You All !! If Somebody Has Sth To Add Is More Than Welcome.. I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION. IF THE 3 1/2 SHELL WAS NOT AN ISSUE, WHICH GUN SHALL I PREFER. THE M2 OR THE SBE II DUE TO THE CRIO BARREL OR SOME OTHER REASONS?

Thank You, Both, Very Much !!! In Greece Lead Is Legal For Everything. Until Now.. I Search For This Matter Almost Two Weeks And I Have The Feelling That A Lot Of American Hunters, Turkey, Dove,Goose, Duck Etc Hunters, Use Benelli Shotguns In Very Harsh Conditions Without Any Major Problems. I See That Browning's, Beretta's And Other Major Brands Do Not Share The Same Credit Among Hunters. Not Shooters Generally. Do I Make A Wrong Evaluation Here? And if Not Can You Tell Me The Reason ? Is It The Marketing Of The Product, Any Product, The Overall Technology, Personal Preferences, Confidence, Or Sth Else ?

hi, I Write From Greece And It's The First Time That I Use A Forum For My Questions. Another Matter Is My English So, Please, Forgive Mistakes That I Will Make. I Am About To Buy A New Shotgun And The Recoil System Is Not A Matter. The Barrel Technology Is. In Your Opinion A Back - Bored Barrel Will Pattern Better Or A Crio Barrel ? Are Back-bored Barrels As Good As They Describe Or There Is Not Much Difference, Finally ? I Already Have Two Browning's. An A5 And A B 2ooo, Both Very Good Guns. But.. I Like Benelli's !! I Have AN M4. A Fantastic Gun But Not For Hunting. Can You Help Me ? Thank You..

THANK YOU SgtCathy. I WILL TRY THERE..

hi, I Write From Greece And It's The First Time That I Use A Forum For My Questions. Another Matter Is My English So, Please, Forgive Mistakes That I Will Make. I Am About To Buy A New Shotgun And The Recoil System Is Not A Matter. The Barrel Technology Is. In Your Opinion A Back - Bored Barrel Will Pattern Better Or A Crio Barrel ? Are Back-bored Barrels As Good As They Describe Or There Is Not Much Difference, Finally ? I Already Have Two Browning's. An A5 And A B 2ooo, Both Very Good Guns. But.. I Like Benelli's !! I Have A M4, A Fantastic Gun But Not For Hunting. Can You Help Me ? Thank You..