OhioM4
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Mine shoots high.That's a Benelli deal and it gets me crazy!!!
Maybe your just too tall for it, try slouching.
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that picture is of the super ultra rare 1981 Benelli Federico Da Montefeltro 1of 11 built,,it price today $15000.00
1981, they grow up so fast:)
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Is it just my imagination or is this a Red Dot mounted on top of a Trijicon ACOG?
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thanks ,,,gotta find a better camera
Looky there!!! He's got the kid's picture on the wall.
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I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.
I happen to be ambipederous.
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The big three I'm considering are:
#1 Aimpoint T1 w/Larue mount (would be mounting on the beefier Sidearmor or KZ rail)
#2 Burris with the Larue mount
#3 Trijicon reflex
One thing I like about the T1 is, even if I didn't like it on the M4 for whatever reason I could just get the taller Larue mount for it and use it on an AR. We'll see though I'm going to take my time with the optic and see if I can check some of these out first hand at the next gun show.
Hookster
You really have to consider how you plan on using the sight. I'm primarily interested in home defense. For that application I'm leaning towards the Trijicon Reflex RX30. My reasoning is that the most likely scenario for home defense is the classic "bump in the night". If my M4 is by the bed or in the closet I want to grab it and be combat ready. The Trijicon is Fiber Optic and Tritium. It gets its illumination from ambient light and the tritium light source. No batteries, no buttons, no switches, pick it up, point, and shoot. Tritium lights rely on the radioactive decay of tritium gas in the tube. It will glow for 10-12 years and does not have to be "charged" in bright light like Luminova luminous paint.
My second choice would be one of the Aimpoint products. They claim anywhere from 5-8 years of continuous use from a set of batteries. That's amazing. I not thrilled with the idea of leaving it on constantly and otherwise you are back to twisting dials in the dark to get it to work.
If I win the lottery it will be Trijicon ACOG all the way.
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Here is a guide that all ATF Agents i am sure are aware of and probably understand better than most, if i owned a M4 i would probably find a Class III/NFA Attorney that might understand the ATF side of this issue a little better?
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/nfa/nfa_handbook/nfa_handbook-rev0409.pdf
Happy reading!
After giving it a quick read, while intersting, it doesn't help us at all. I was referring to the apparent lack of published details of the imported guns. You would think that with all the paperwork required to import a gun that somewhere there would be an official list of component parts. The way I interpret the whole thing is that if you buy a new imported gun from a dealer it is by definition compliant with 922®. If you can buy it, it is a gun suitable for sporting purposes. As soon as you start adding parts you are considered to be "assembling" a gun from imported parts. Neither Benelli nor the ATF has any motivation to anticipate all the possible modifications someone could make.
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Profuse apologies M1014. I failed to notice the true significance of your recent acquisition until I looked at the pictures again. Congratulations are in order. How did you rate? Do you have an uncle whose last name is Benelli?
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Isn't the barrel supposed to be attached to the rest of the gun in some way? Or do scratches on the mating surfaces somehow detract from the value?
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Facts:
1. Ok, so we have 13 parts to work with....
Whoa, backup to step 0! You only have 13 imported parts if ATF says you have 13. I believe we have seen ATF letters ranging from 11 to 15 imported parts. It has been repeatedly stated that the letter only applies to the person it is addressed to. Several forum members were planning on writing to the ATF and enclosing a copy of the letter previously posted that listed 11 parts and asking the ATF to confirm the part count. There apparently is no "official" reference that they use to determine the part count and it looks like they have been tallying it up on a case by case basis. If they eventually gravitate to a standard reply to our inquiries this process will be much easier. If they confirm the part count at 11 all you have to do is swap out the evil imported magazine tube for a made in the USA part and be done with it. Heck it would be irresponsible not to do it!
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I see she has a pair of 38s ... probably needs an M4 to protect them!
Somebody was bound to make that bad joke eventually.
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AKs are fun, but they are not in the same realm. It's like comparing a farm truck to a BMW.
While doing some research I came upon this webpage comparing the AR, AK, and Mosin Nagant.
http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinHumor.htm
Here's a sample:
AK:When out of ammo your rifle will nominally pass as a club.
AR: When out of ammo, your rifle makes a great wiffle bat.
Mosin: When out of ammo, your rifle makes a supreme war club, pike, boat oar, tent pole, or firewood.
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A friend of mine did the full house wrap but the satellites zeroed in on it right away needless to say he hasn't been heard from since
-[Mr. Smiley sez... paranoia is fun]Whenever I go outside, I always remember to act casual, look up, and smile for the satellite photos:D
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I doubt that it would hurt anything. If its too wimpy it may not feed the last round in reliably. I'd go for it. If nothing else you will have a better basis for comparison when you get your full length tube. If you got it why not use it...even if only temporarily. Its not like you are going to devalue it much by mounting it. Somebody on Gunbroker may appreciate it being field tested for a short time.
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Would it be more prudent to just wrap the whole house in tin foil? That would protect the entire family and probably cut down dramatically on unwanted soliciters.
You're just jealous because the voices don't like you!
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I'm not comparing it to the shotguns. I'm comparing it to the R1, Benelli's previous rifle offering.
Here's the quote from Benelli on the R1 - "The reliability of the R1's auto-regulating gas operated (ARGO) system has been proven in the US Marine's choice of the M1014 military shotgun and has been adapted for centerfire rifle cartridges with a three-lugged rotary bolt. The rifle's gas cylinder is positioned just in front of the chamber allowing for short operating rods and reduced recoiling mass."
I can definitely see the similarity to the R1 piston setup. I objected to the Bennelli quote that implies the reliability of the shotgun ARGO system carries over to the rifle ARGO system. Quality by association, even though it appears to be a radically different design. Apart from gas pushing the piston I don't think you can make much of a comparison. As Unobtanium pointed out the pressures involved are vastly different. They may have just as well said the rifle is safe to fire because both it and the military shotgun have barrels that are bored all the way through!
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The Trijicon is an upgrade to the original sight so you have to remove it and send it in to be machined and the tritium tube inserted. I was considering buying a spare front sight to have upgraded so I would not be without a front sight. A plain Benelli front from Brownells is almost $40 so it's not such a bad idea to buy the Meprolights and try them out. If I don't like them I can send in my original sight for the Trijicon upgrade. Sounds like a plan.
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This is why I said we need to wear our tin foil hats at all times:D
Hookster
I added a tin pie plate to my hat and I feel much better now...I just wish I had eaten the pie first:o
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I'm also on a budget (there's apparently a recession going on). I know it is not ideal but I am strongly considering the Ruger Mini-14 or Mini-30 as my first rifle. I know people complain about the accuracy but for the price I think it would get the job done. I like my Benelli M4 a lot and I think it will cover a wide range of situations. I am leaning towards the 7.62 rifles as shooting through a cinder block is a feature neither the M4 or the 5.56 rifles would be able to equal. I don't care for the AK styling so the Ruger does not seem like a bad choice by comparison. If you ever have to use a rifle in a self defence situation I think the Ruger would look a lot less intimidating to a jury if a criminal or civil suit resulted.
What could I get in a similar price range that would be better?
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Have you ever owned an AR?
Nope. The M4 was my first fire arm purchase. I've determined I'm more afraid of Obama than burglars at this point. I'm thinking of purchasing an AR and a semi auto pistol with some hi capacity mags, possibly a Glock or a Sig. I've done research on the pistols and have rented a variety of them at the range. I don't have much info on the ARs. I've looked at the S&W M&P series and the Sig 556. Both are pricey and I wouldn't know a quality AR if it shot me in the a$$.
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Well, I am an "assault rifle kind of guy", and I wouldn't buy one.
But additional options are always nice I suppose.
Duggan, what is your recommendation for a newbies first assault rifle 'o' wizened and wise one???
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... uses the battle-proven ARGO system—the same system developed by Benelli for the M1014 and used for over a decade in multiple conflicts by the United States Marine Corps...
Based on the photos posted of the stubby piston and the pitting and corrosion, I fail to see any similarity between the pistons on the shotguns and the ones on the rifle. The shotgun pistons are long enough and have enough ribs on them that I can see them continuing to function even if they corrode and pit. The rifle piston looks like the operating area is so short that any pitting is guaranteed to have a detrimental effect. I had hoped for more commitment to quality from Benelli. It looks like they are just jumping on the "Black Rifle" bandwagon:(
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I read on one of the Beretta forums that it is due out in November. I could only find press releases from gun magazine reviewers. I don't see any official word from Benelli or Beretta.
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I do like that the tube is stamped with the text 'Made in USA.'
Regards,
Wow that would help with the 922® compliance we've been discussing. Boy that's a coincidence that someone would start manufacturing parts that are all stamped. IT"S ALMOST LIKE HE'S READING OUR MINDS!!! ... GET OUT OF MY HEAD YOU *******!!
oh wait, this is a public forum maybe he just reads our posts and doesn't participate.
CYBERSTALKERS!
Reflex sight on an M4?
in Benelli
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I was surprised to see a red dot mounted on top of the ACOG. It has to be sitting a good 4 inches above the rail. You would think that that far away from the bore center line the parallax would be horrendous. I also imagine the farther out you hang something on the gun the more flex and torque the device would be subjected to. I was surprised to see it.