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Everything posted by danbrew
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Yes, you could do this. For a SBR or SBS, you could remove it from the SBR or SBS configuration and then just sell the parts. That’s all they are - parts. You wouldn’t want to sell it to them to the same person as that would go to constructive possession. For just about every single SBR or SBS out there, I’d tell you that it would be a waste of time. Having said that, the M4 components are pretty hard to find and you probably could get decent money - at least on the barrel. I think I paid $800 for mine. So… what’s a fair price? While I paid $800 for mine, I’ve seen them sell for stupid money - $1500. I’ve also seen them go for a lot less than $800. Bottom line, there’s a market for your entry barrel. I don’t know what kind of coin you’d get for the receiver - you’d have to find somebody that wants a receiver and all the rest. In fact, now that I think about it, I might be tempted to buy everything *other* than the barrel. Why? Because I took a barrel off an M4 to make my SBS so I got a barrel hanging around. So… considering that I could buy a brand new M4 LE shotgun for about $1800, and the 18.5” barrel is about $650 from Benelli, that works out to be $1150 for everything but the barrel. And, uh, in my case, if I’m buying a used gun, despite how little it was used, my starting point is 60% of what I can find it for elsewhere. So… that’s what, $700 or so for everything but the barrel? And that’s a big if - am I gonna have to spend money to get the tube extension? It wouldn’t take much for me to say, “Meh, maybe I’ll just spend $1800 and get a new one…” Bottom line, you’re gonna have to find the right two people to buy your stuff. Or you could just buy a used 18.5 barrel and put it in Title I configuration and sell the complete gun for $1000-1500 or so. And then sell the short barrel to somebody.
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I have that same light, but IR/white light on a different gun and used the MLOk mount. Works great. On a Benelli M4, I have the smaller Surefire using the RM45 mount - clamps onto the rail section of the new Benelli forearm. Use a tape switch on a Magpul RVG grip. Works great. https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-D9Z3KwJ/0/4ce52228/X5/i-D9Z3KwJ-X5.jpg
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Sorry for the long reply. Didn’t have a close up handy, but perhaps this large image will help. It’s a Magpul female QD that is attached to one of the front rails on the 11732 forearm. https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-3F45qj5/0/94a219d2/X5/i-3F45qj5-X5.jpg
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I have a 11723 that I Form 1d. The 11723 has a front sling attachment that has a built-in QD attachment. And, uh, it rattles. Yeah, I know, it’s not like I’m sneaking up on anybody (today anyway), but it bugged me. I removed the sling attachment and mounted a QD on the funky new forearm. It don’t rattle anymore. lol.
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I like mine a lot. I didn’t really get into vertical grips until the last couple of years when I first put one on a short barrel rifle, then a couple of other rifles. It’s a natural grip, eases carry/presentation/shooting. Feels super natural and I gotta say, I like…!
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Well, took her out yesterday and that busted off end of the screwdriver popped out within the first mag full of 00.
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Not sure how long it has been out, bought mine in Sep. and then immediately SBSd it. It would have been cheaper to buy an existing entry gun, but the F1 is faster than a F4. And, if I feel like it, I can put the longer barrel and +2 extension on the mag.
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Magpul MS3 sling Scalarworks Sync/01 + RMR06 Surefire M312C MagPul RVG The host was a 11732 - I actually like the new stock and the new forearm. The forearm comes with three small rail pieces to which I’ve mounted a QD for the sling on the left side of the receiver, the RVG on the bottom, and the Surefire on the right. The MS3 is a *great* sling - makes it very easy to set up a braced position with the sling that provides tension when shooting. Nixed the crapped little front sling swivel as it just rattled a bit too much for me. The light is pretty nice - it’s a single cell Scout light with 500 lumens. I’m a flashlight geek, including having a dual IR/vis 1000 lumens light on a DMR setup and really like it, yet 500 lumens is just great for this shotgun. And while I don’t typically like Velcro on my gear, I’m using some awesome strong Velcro and cut it to side and put the pressure pad on the right side of the grip. This position allows me to grip the RVG and shoot comfortably without turning on the light. Tightening my fingers illuminates the light. There’s a little bit of a shadow with the entry barrel but not so much that it negates the purpose of the light. All in all, very pleased.
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I got a set I'd be happy to sell 'ya. $900 + shipping. lol.
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Yeah, real wood.
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yeah, i could get it out with a tiny bit of effort. I'm just gonna let it sit and see when it pops out courtesy of 00. It wasn't the screw that sheered off, it was that crappy little torex bit they include in the box. I'm not too worried about the screw coming up for a few reasons - first, it was pre-treated with a little dab of red loctite and second, apparently a gorilla torqued the hell out of it when installing it... lol.
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Ordered mine on Tuesday evening when I saw this post - the furniture arrived today. Probably the fastest shipping from PSA that I've ever experienced...! Don't necessarily think I'll put this furniture on either of my guns, but it's an option for the future. I'll likely just stick them in the gun room and when some guy asks for these in eleven years I'll sell him my $900 set of wooden furniture... lol. Would be nice if there was some type of heat shield on the forearm as the wood is pretty thin and I can imagine it getting pretty hot with moderate usage. ll
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Although, upon reflection, and I’m just guessing, I suppose it’s possible they intentionally designed the bit to break away if the torque was exceeded - all to prevent from screwing up the aluminum receiver. That would be cool. But I’m betting it was just a crappy bit. lol.
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The other day. Got today. I’ve had for literally 30 minutes. Had to rush right out to my little shop area and put it together. Easy peasy install - remove the top rail on the receiver of the Benelli M4. You install two screws with a little protrusion on them and then hook the mount on the protruding screws and slide it back to lock it in place. It’s a clever install - kind of a Tab A Slot B kind of thing. Then you use two screws to mate the Sync mount to the receiver. Scalarworks includes all the screws you need and even offer a crappy little torex bit driver. I took one look at the crappy little driver and my tools - which were right freakin’ there - and I still used their crappy little driver in a screwdriver. Stupid stupid stupid. The manual, which I actually read said to torque the screws to 7 in/lb - so not much. And, yeah, I got all sorts of torque wrenches. I figured 7 in/lb meant snug tight. I guess my idea of snug and the crappy little bits idea of snug is not the same thing. Busted the freakin’ bit right off in the screw. Figure I’ll probably pop out once I start unloading a bunch of 00 through it, but we’ll see. I effectively borrowed somebody’s tool tonight and it was a piece of crap. I’ll provide a report on this over the weekend.
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Thx, just grabbed a set from PSA. This is gonna be one of those you say in about ten years, many I wish I had bought those when they were available… you can’t go wrong for $70.
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I’ve got two M4s - one I’ve had for 10+ years and one a few months old. I’ve literally done what OP described at least a thousand times with no ill-effect. Works just as well with the new gun. It’s 6 or 7 rounds in an entry gun depending upon the round.
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I’ve got a pretty simple device that prevents somebody from grabbing the end of the barrel… lol.
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I have the 11732 and mounted a Magpul RVG on the bottom rail section. I like it a lot.
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you’ll be fine. Looks like somebody dropped it - there is a slight radius on that sharp point and it looks like yours has a ding. No worries.
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Super valid point. You’re at the range and some dude comes up and says, “I is the fuzz - I want to inspect your gun”. The only proper response is “piss off”. Now supposing that the cops get ahold of your gun for some reason. You get arrested and have it with you, in the car, whatever. You’re in the car on the way to the range and are in an accident and somebody t-bones you. They cart you off to the hospital and the tow truck driver says, “Hey, look what I found!” Forgetting for a moment that it’d probably go in the back of his truck, now the cops got your gun. It’s debatable whether they could legally disassemble your gun to check for 922 compliance. What’s the reasonable grounds for suspicion of non-compliance? It’s scary looking? The only possible situation in which I can envision that the fuzz get ahold of your gun and have a reasonable basis to take it apart is if you shoot somebody with it. I suppose the firearms examiner at the local cop shop could say, “Hey, you know, this thing has all non-US parts in it!”. I doubt that would happen. I also question whether anybody, anywhere has ever been prosecuted for a 922 violation. There are some that say mere possession isn’t a violation - but the violation is the act of configuring such a gun. Maybe you bought the gun used and some other dude did it. Maybe you bought an LE gun and Benelli did it. But, yeah, people do spend cash on 922. Cheaper than the worst case alternative I suppose.
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The new LE versions with the collapsible stock have the new stock - which I also kind of like. I’ve spent a lot of time with the old stock version and like the old stock version better from a looks perspective, but I like the new one from a cheek weld perspective. If I’m honest, they’re probably about the same. But that’s it. Mechanically, they’re the same. Here’s the 11723 outta the box: And with a few enhancements - entry barrel, Magpul RVG, and a Magpul MS3 sling…
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I bought a 11732 recently and the first thing I did was to remove the front sling attachment point. It rattles a little too much for my taste. It's not like I'm gonna be sneaking up on somebody, but the 11B in me was partnering up with the OCD in me and it had to go. I put the rail attachment points on that funky new handguard (which I kind of like) and slapped a rail QD on it.
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I had previously ordered a Vicker's Blue Force sling in the same kind of configuration as I listed above (QD on one end, open strap on the other). It was back ordered back ordered back ordered. It showed up yesterday. Functionally I'd exactly like the MagPul MS3. The quality of the MagPul and ease of adjustment on the sliding part of the sling? The MagPul is 100x better than the Vicker's sling. I'm sure I'll find some use for the Vickers sling, but do yourself a favor and just go get a MagPul sling.
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Good Lord, I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit looking at that MASS.
