kafasi Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 after a good weekend hunt,today i cleaned my m2. but i saw a little piece of rust outside of the barrel. oiled first and use a hard wipes..... in the end the color of the area became whiter so what can i do now? how i return the original ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cleefurd Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 (edited) Not sure what "hard wipes" are, unless you're describing the force applied. If they (hard wipes) degrease it to any extent, the parkerizing will show as a distinctly lighter shade of grey. Remember parkerizing is micro-crystaline in nature, and if heavy pressure is applied with linen, the fabric could conceivably be shredding itself into the pores of thye parkerizing, leaving a "white-ish" appearance behind. Try using a soft bristle nylon toothbrush with a dab of oil to lightly scrub out the white particles. If this is what occured, you will notice it promptly returning to a dark tone. Any "focused" cleaning of a parkerized surface will eventually break down the rough surface, thus diminishing the light absorption characteristic it had when freshly applied. That is where the "matte" texture is seen. The smoother it gets by knocking down the pores roughness, the less "matte" it will appear, until eventually you are down to bare metal in instances where the contact is repeated metal-on-metal sliding for example. Hope this helped....maybe it just has a complex and WANTS to be white. Edited December 23, 2008 by cleefurd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafasi Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 i did what you sad.but nothing changed .yes it is still white-ish.any other options to turn the original color? maybe bluing or repainting or smting else ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker301 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Is the original finish black oxide, blued, or camo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafasi Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 standart m2 field black synt..tucker helppppp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creeper Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Kafasi... Just to clear away one possible cause, what specifically are you using for a cleaner and/or a lubricant/rust inhibitor? It's a long shot, but I just wanted to eliminate any potential chemical issues from the equation. C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafasi Posted December 31, 2008 Author Share Posted December 31, 2008 sometimes breakfree clp,sometimes browning legia nothing special i mean.only problem is i used a kind of hard bath towel and used strenght then it becomes white...i will send pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BENELLI MYTHOS Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 It happened in one of my Benellis I sent the barrel to Mr. Theo in virginia and it came back better than when it was new!!! Call your gunsmith before you have more problems to deal with(rust , pitting , etc ...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cleefurd Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 It happened in one of my Benellis I sent the barrel to Mr. Theo in virginia and it came back better than when it was new!!! Call your gunsmith before you have more problems to deal with(rust , pitting , etc ...) Did your gunsmith give an account of what had gone awry? Was it remedied by "know-how" or by re-finishing? Very curious, I feel bad for this guy. From everything we have passed on, and his willingness to try, I'm itching to know how a towel could do so much harm, and if Benelli, an insidious OTC gun product, or mere neglect are to blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker301 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Birchwood Casey matte black touch up pen. Where to buy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tucker301 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Mine has several such places on it. Not a big deal. CLP will keep it from rusting. The black Benelli finish is not very durable. When mine gets bad enough I'm sending it off to be either Gunkoted or camo dipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kafasi Posted January 1, 2009 Author Share Posted January 1, 2009 tnx tucker.i tried the pen (birchwood) it is to bright ,ok for shiny blue barrels but not for matte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cleefurd Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Never seen a "good" park job do that. Not even close. I do in house parkerizing which when preceeded by etching/blasting WON'T be at the mercy of a towel. I know that offers little relief to you now, I only mention it because it seems as though Benelli ought to know, especially since it seems to be common, (see Tucker's account). Perhaps on a $30 pellet rifle, but wiping down to bare white metal with a towel just seems WRONG. When I saw the photo, I felt like a Dr must feel when seeing a patient with leprosy. Either re-parking or high-end coating like Tucker suggests seems like a good recourse. At least it has no bearing on function... good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker301 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 The Benelli coating isn't a true Parkerized finish. It lacks the depth and texture of Parkerizing. And it's not bare white metal that shows beneath the scratches. At least on mine, it isn't. It appears to be some kind of a base coat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker301 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 tnx tucker.i tried the pen (birchwood) it is to bright ,ok for shiny blue barrels but not for matte Did you get the matte finish pen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cleefurd Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 (edited) Pleeeaase make sure that IF you have it parkerized, you have the bore plugged during any surface prep. I am beginning to wonder if the "base-coat" beneath the black, isn't a light by-product of the bore plating that materialized in spite of the anode being inside the barrel during the process. This might explain why Benelli opts for a field expedient (although of pithetic durability) coating over a more durable treatment/coating. Come to think of it, even the best coatings won't adhere well to chrome plating. Edited January 1, 2009 by cleefurd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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