mudhen
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The one my buddy sold was in very good condition. I just didn't need a 4th SBE. Prolly shudda bought it though....
mudhen - CA
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A good price is $400, a buddy sold his for just that last month, I declined.
After that, anything under $600 is prolly a good deal if the gun is 90%. I see them for $550 on occasion, $600 more often.
Some folks are still trying for full price on NIB SBE's!
Play around on www.gunsamerica.com, you will see a wide variety of pricing.
Go with the SBE II. You will not regret it.
mudhen - CA
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Load that gun up!
I hear the Comfortech gel pad fits nicely, buy it. I bought the recoil reducer for mine, it worked well.
26" bbl is fine, I've been shooting 26" for 16 years with no ill effect.
The factory full will kill them up close, but you may want to investigate an extended choke if you are unhappy with your pattern. Chokes are available all over the internet; Briley, Carlson, Cabelas has tons, etc.
All of my Benelli turkey guns like Winchester turkey ammo. Lead and/or Extended Range.
mudhen - CA
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Yes, it sounds like the two brands are much closer with the Optima Bore and the Extended Criochoke system found on the Sport series.
I know that Beretta overbores it's semi-autos and Benelli does not, so that is why there is a larger gap with when comparing those two series.
My friend's S II really likes tight chokes for lead, you may want to try an even tighter choke than LM.
mudhen - CA
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Pardon me - I just noticed you guys were talking about SS's & S II's, not SBE II's.
My bad, especially since I knew Scott bought a SS.
But there may still be an issue with bore ID versus choke constriction.
Beretta overbore's it's Optima Plus guns. Don't know if it overbores the Optima guns, but the choke constrictions match on both versions.
It is my understanding that the Benellis are almost underbored and while the chokes may interchange, they will not offer the same service.
Have any of you S II /SS guys miked the barrel ID?
The guy I hunt with miked his S II and I recall it was around .729.
I get much info from www.choketube.com, but they do not list the Benelli Extended Crio choke. You can see the differences on other chokes like Optima Plus vs. Crio Plus on the website.
According to places like Comp-n-Choke, LM in the Benelli Ext Crio is .15 constriction, or .714.
Given that the Beretta Optima LM is .718, you are getting pretty close there, prolly too close to tell any difference.
Scott, I like anything extended from Briley and I like the newer Carlson extended tubes.
Both specifically list Crios in their selections.
Geno, I never said Benelli sells these chokes, I was referring to the many aftermarket companies, some of which make OEM tubes for Benelli btw.
mudhen - CA
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Where did the internet-famous '44 Canon' go? I miss him
A very good H&K SBE sold for $550 shipping prepaid on another website.
It sold quickly, but the $550 price can be found.
mudhen - CA
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The Beretta Optima Plus LM is around .718.
.718 in the Benelli Crio will shoot between IC and Skeet.
The chokes interchange, but will not function the same.
A Benelli Crio LM runs .710, which is closer to a Beretta Optima Plus Improved Modified.
I think Drundel knows much about this subject - maybe he can chip in his $.02?
mudhen - CA
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Yes, they are horrible, the pellets just fall out of the barrel.
You must have extended chokes to kill anything past 5 yards....
What does functionality have to do with anything?.....
mudhen - CA
[ 07-25-2005, 12:28 PM: Message edited by: mudhen ]
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I've never looked at the barrel while shooting - I look at the bird and the rest is just automatic.
The vent rib is ridged so it just appears dark when shooting.
Take a Max 4 gun outside in the natural light - it does not look nearly as yellow as it does inside a store. Eight toms didn't seem to notice the Max 4 this season.
Buy the SBE II and don't look back.....
mudhen - CA
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I hunt with several slug guns & muzzleloaders.
That M2 should like Winchester Plat Tips & Part Golds.
Iowa, Kentucky, Kansas, North Dakota, more states to follow as I figure out the drawing procedures.
I have to move around a bit as places like Iowa are getting crowded.....
mudhen - CA
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No.
Benelli CrioChokes (found in the SBE II) are the same as Beretta Optima Plus chokes.
However, even though they will interchange, do not expect the same results based on the style of choke.
For example, a Beretta Optima Plus choke in Modified runs .713; .713 in the Benelli Crio choke will shoot closer to an Improved Cylinder choke.
www.carlsonchokes has great info.
mudhen - CA
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I think only one standard base will fit the drilled & tapped holes; a Weaver type base - Model 93 (I think). You will need Weaver rings too.
I am sure B-Square or someone like that have saddle mounts.
I debated over two shotgun/muzzy scopes recently. I liked the new Leo VX-I 2-7x33 and the Nikon Prostaff 2-7x32.
I went with the Nikon, just too many positive replies on other forums.
Price was not issue - both were available to me at dead net.
mudhen - CA
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By standard models I mean the basic SBE II & M2 models and any other brand's standard models.
Many special guns come with extended tubes; Browning 525 Golden Clays, 525 Sporting, NWTF Browning Golds, Beretta AL391 Teknys Gold Trap, Teknys Gold Sporting, D10 Trident L Sporting ($8,000), Remington Model 1100 Sporting, and I'm sure there are many more.
The higher up models have more features and higher prices to pay for those features, standard guns come with standard features.
mudhen - CA
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Yeah, that would be nice.
Given that no SBE or M1 ever came with extended tubes as a standard option, why would Benelli start now?
Does any gun MF offer extended tubes as standard offerings on standard guns?
I would think that it would add $150-$200 to the MSRP of the SBE II.
I'll give you 1670 ($$) reasons why the SS comes with them though....
mudhen - CA
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They are 3 listed in the Benelli 2005 catalog, but no authorized Benelli dealer seems to have them yet. No ETA from my dealer.
I have heard of delays for whatever reason.
There are 100's available from aftermarket companies like Briley, Carlson, Comp-N-Choke, Kicks, Rhino, etc.
mudhen - CA
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Nelli Girl works for Benelli - I'm presuming she would know.
The Franchi Raptor comes in green CF and it scratches off if you really want it to.
The DuraTouch from Win/Browning is also a dipped decal of sorts and scratches if you want it to.
mudhen - CA
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I get almost no climb in my SBE II - even with turkey loads.
mudhen - CA
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You are pretty much on your own here. I know lots of guys that hate their Sure Cycles, mostly Browning Gold owners though.
My main issue with SureCycles is that the factory Benelli parts should work fine. If they don't, then that should be addressed with Benelli or by a gunsmith or some home smithing.
13 years ago, I took off the factory recoil tube nut and replaced it with the 17mm hex nut offered by Benelli. The inside of the tube was a nightmare of gunk, unspent powder from cheap steel shot, twigs, feathers, etc. The bolt was a rusty mess. Anyone ever see a pile of coon crap? Well, thats what it looked like.
I cleaned up the tube using a power drill rig of 20 ga bore brush & steel wool, and put a new spring in from Brownells (factory Benelli), and the rest is old news.
I do the whole drill routine every few years.
I have noticed that SS's for Benellis are pretty much collecting dust at the gunshops I frequent.
Good luck with Jeff @ SS (I get along with him fine & I do use the mag spring kit in all my Benellis),
mudhen - CA
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Well, that happened to me on an SBE at the 11 year mark (20,000 rounds). The ring was not rusty on mine though.
There was some talk a few years ago about some bad barrel ring welds, not much talk, but some. How old is your M1? Is it under warranty?
Over the 11 years, I had removed the mag cap so many times, the notches were almost worn smooth. I do recall the cap would come loose often during hunts, I doubt that helped. I got a new cap from Brownells.
I called Benelli USA and got Carter Miller. He told me to send the entire gun back, which I did.
27 days later (right in the middle of duck season), I got my SBE back. A new barrel ring had been cleanly welded on and the barrel nicely reblued. The ejector assembly had been upgraded with new parts.
This 27 days included the shipping time to and from Benelli.
The invoice was maked "No Charge" even though the SBE was 6 years out of warranty.
So, I would suggest calling CS and asking them what to do. I suspect they will have you send the gun back.
I'll be surprised if Benelli does not swiftly take care of the problem, unless you somehow voided your warranty with aftermarket alterations.
mudhen - CA
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Ditto to everything Tucker said - 'cept I've never been disappointed with the recoil on any Benelli product - my Browing Golds kick more for me.
Since the SBE does not really suit your needs physically, I'd go with the Xtrema 2.
I like the 24" Xtrema 2 in Hardwoods HD with the Kick-Off system.
mudhen - CA
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100 3.5" turkey loads did the job for me.
My SBE II can cycle starter rounds now!
mudhen - CA
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1) Don't know about the Crio chokes - don't use them - I use Briley LM & M for waterfowl and Rhino for turkeys.
2) Having shot many Benellis, I do notice a drastic reduction in muzzle flip with the SBE II.
3) Gel pad fits well - had to buy the shorter LOP pad for heavy clothes. I installed Limbsavers on all previous Benellis, so I can't tell if the new Gel pad is any better or worse, I'd guess no worse, maybe a bit better.
4) It weighs what the catalog says it weighs.
5) Love my SBE II.
6) Buy the 10101 - sounds like a great gun for pass shooting - buy an extended choke tube though, modified from Briley or something in the .700-.705 range.
Buy it, you know you want it....
mudhen - CA
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Sure looks like the Comfortech stock will fit any Benelli semi-auto. Forearms only fit the appropriate versions though.
Good luck trying to buy a Comfortech stock (maybe E-bay?) - I may be wrong - but I doubt they will be available for some time as a factory part and I'm sure the retail price will be ugly.
It looks like the SS's Comfortech stock is the same as all the others (with the CF film) and therefore that Gel Pad should be the standard Gel Pad. Same for the Cordoba.
Comfortech Gel Pad fits SBE II, M2, and the Nova pump. Says so in the catalog. Should also say SS & Cordoba imho.
mudhen - CA