mudhen
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Please folks, you have to believe me, we're not all that stupid here in Sacramento
And we are not French ballet dancers either.....at least not in public......
mudhen - CA
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Why not put a piece of red tape like they do on luggage....
Is skool out in Illnoiz yet?....
mudhen - CA
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This guy was afraid of the .660 as well, until he died.....
mudhen - CA
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Hey big fish - what do you want to hear? - please tell us.
You have posted several times about your new M1 and how much you hate it.
I can't think of how your old SBE could have been so much faster given that Benelli did not change the length the bolt travels or any other mechanical issue that might have 'slowed' down the M1. I know of guys that can shoot the M1 at around .13/.14, so I guess not all M1's are so 'slow'.
Same for your recoil claim. I can think of nothing that would make your 'new' M1 kick 'way more' than an older SBE.
You can fill the floating groove with JB weld and grind it flat or buy an old bolt or find a welder to help. Benelli fixed the float 'cuz it was a liability.
Maybe they should have a floating bolt for defense shooters, but the reality is that the floating bolt exposed Benelli to much negative press.
The Sure Cycle will probably help. Call Jeff and he will take the time to discuss the whole process with you - he is a great guy.
As to the Winchester X2, it is currently the world's fastest cycling semi-auto shotgun right out of the box with no modifications. It is also gas operated so the recoil is less. Maybe you should consider it given that you hate your new M1 so much.
No one should shoot something they hate.....
mudhen - CA
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I tried many chokes and shells in my new SBE II.
The best pattern, by far, was the Rhino .660 1.5" Extended + 3.5" Winchester Extended Range #6's.
I think the M2 would pattern well with the same choke and 3" Win Ext.
mudhen - CA
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"You're missing my point, or just choosing to ignore it."
I can't ignore what doesn't exist.....
You don't like the device for mostly personal reasons + the fact (one that no one argues otherwise) that robo tends to draw young mallets into range at roughly twice the clip than without robo.
Ok, I'll agree with you on the young mallard issue. And here in Cali, our F&G agrees with you also and regulates robo to preserve the mallard balance. F&G reads the robo studies and limits when robo can be used and how many mallets can be shot, etc. I'll take F&G science over your emotion anyday.
Now, as to the rest of the dux, most are either: not attracted to robo, not a desired species, or are seemingly not affected by whatever increase in harvest robo may or may not cause. That's why you have to read the surveys, that's why you have to know what you are talking about, otherwise your points are moot.
Soooo, I'll agree with you on the mallet issue, but I'll defer to the biologists on setting seasons & bag limits.
As to grays, sprig, teal, divers, etc., it would be better to pray for: timely rains, changes in breeding behaviors, CRP, farmers to do well, the slowdown in the land development surge, and mother nature.
These 69% robo guys spend much $$$ to keep the sport going for now.
Let's hope the ducks can hang on until things get better.....
mudhen - CA
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"What you see is what you get."
Agreed.
By your own admission you are, at least; a jealous, petty, and bitter shooter of ducks (not to be confused with a true hunter), that is only concerned with his own personal bag.
That's about all I see at this point.
You choose to ignore the real waterfowl population facts, and continue to do battle with Tucker, sadly not realizing that the battle has long been over.....
mudhen - CA
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This would be fine if decades of science supported your contention:
"I also believe robo causes first year ducks to commit suicide. We won't see the results at first. But as less and less young ducks arrive to the breeding grounds and the older ducks begin to die, we will see the effects in the "very long run."
But science has proven that we can't stockpile ducks. Did you even glance at the 19 pages of data on the link? Typical know-it-all college/grad student (which most of us were in your shoes and acted the same way!).
I'll tell you what chem student, it's fine to hate robo, many do, but I think hate should bear a reasonable relationship to the source of the hate.
Robo may kill too many young ducks, but smart states regulate or eliminate robo to protect those young ducks. Here in Cali, we can't use robo until Dec 1st, by then all the young are usually long gone or found safer haven than a duck club.
Ask your profs about how important the facts are....
mudhen - CA
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Ok, I get your point.
But in the long run, and I mean the very long run, what is more important to the overall duck population:
Habitat?
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Robos effect on the population of juvenile mallards?
So many ducks are unaffected by robo as their populations naturally ebb & flow depending on habitat & weather.
I think, and science supports me for now, that to focus on robo as a scientific population limiting factor is shortsighted and tends to merely mirror emotion as opposed to solid scientific research.
If and when the feds find robo to be an improper harvest tool, they will regulate by statute as they always have.
In the meantime, you just have to let states decide on their own based up their own methods to setting bag limits and seasons.
mudhen - CA
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Sprigsss - your replies show your true motivation - and that is your own personal success.
As far as facts go, your knowledge of duck population facts is as lame as your selfish greedy replies.
Maybe crack a book or read up on the scientific facts before you go spouting off your self-centered drivel?
It's all about the habitat & weather stupid:
http://migratorybirds.fws.gov/reports/status04/duck_trend_report_bw_map_04.pdf
Robo is slaughtering grays? Funny, gadwall are up +56% over the LTA.
Robo is death to teal? Green-wings are up +33% & most of us (except your area) never get to see a blue-wing so robo is not the likely cause of their -10% drop.
Shovelers are up +22% ove the LTA.
Sprig are just dead in the water, robo or not, it's all about habitat and the breed's refusal to relocate to better breeding habitat. Plus the season has been shortened and the bag reduced so robo it moot with sprig.
Scaup are also in trouble and robo has nada to do with divers.
Don't know what to say about widgeon, they are a broken duck right now. They do fall for robo, but I know few that target them. Much more likely a habitat issue.
Mallards were at all time lows in the late 80's & early 90's before robo existed, so there goes the robo argument there. Here in Cali, we raise a ton of local mallets. Our F&G merely regulates the mallets taking into consideration robo. Good idea letting biologists set seasons no?
The fact is that your dislike of robo is a personal choice matter to you, not based on any scientific facts. And from what I have read of your posts, that is exactly what I would expect from an over-emotional phony.
If the feds find robo to be a threat, it will die by federal migratory game bird law, just as live decoys, electronic calling, bait, etc. did.
You are just as greedy as the rest of us and you want what's yours, it's all plain and simple greed.
You can't stand watching someone bag birds, totally legally, if you ain't gettin' yours.
You don't give a crap about ducks and the science involved in making a duck, you just care 'bout the braggin.....
So who's the prick now you greedy punk?.....
I bet your chem profs are real proud, all fluff, no substance..... I hope the U's lab is well insured....
mudhen - CA
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The M1 is old news...
mudhen - CA
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uh, lots of things (maybe read the catalog that's been out for 6 months or click on 'Benelli' above?):
ComforTech stock, Crio barrel, Crio chokes, new trigger guard (may not seem important - but it is great), new gel recoil pad, redesigned forearm, etc.
They prolly x'ed the floating shell because to do so while waterfowling is a violation of federal & state law. Too bad for defense gun & sluggers though.
I'm hearing real good reviews on the M2.
mudhen - CA
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Good answer TGG - you have come a long way grasshopper!
Metal will usually defeat plastic - follow TGG's advice. You will still get some wear, not as much...
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.17 ain't bad, kinda slow, but not bad.....
mudhen - CA
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My dealer has 2 on hand - very nice wood even at I - nice new trigger guard.
mudhen - CA
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I have heard from unreliable sources that the 3 new Extended Crio Chokes will not be available this year.
Maybe 2006? Maybe never?
I have heard a smattering of info that the whole Optima Plus/Crio Choke is being looked into for possible changes to the threading/configuration...
mudhen - CA
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The part is the Ejector Retaining Pin.
Sounds like it holds the ejector in place, so I guess that the ejector will not stay in place without it.
So I presume that it prolly won't funtion fine without it for long!
mudhen - CA
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All my SBE's have shot all the ammo I have tried; from WalMart dove loads, to 3.5" Matrix, to all sorts of sabot & foster slugs, buckshot, even that goofy tracer crap with the metal ball that glowed.
mudhen - CA
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I think the real fast guy (.102) is a state trooper from Idaho and he claims he does not lock the X2 up even at that obscene speed.
I think if anyone would care it might be LE....
mudhen - CA
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Have not heard a thing from the Benelli west coast rep about the new SBE III. I'll press him on it this week. I'll forward your post to him today.
But I doubt he would say much if they still have many SBE II's to sell.
So, maybe I'll just start an internet rumor that the SBE II has already been disco'ed.
That ought to get NelliGirl's interest.....
mudhen - CA
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You mean like the new 2005 Monte listed in the catalog?
mudhen - CA
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The X2 is faster, much faster, and now it has taken Tom Knapp's record too.
To add injury to insult - the young stud will prolly top the record by 2 clays shortly.
Tom will prolly have to retire soon and buy fancy cars to compensate for his lost manhood.....
mudhen - CA
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Someone didn't watch the cooler at a Memorial Day BBQ......
mudhen - CA
benelli vs stoeger
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Hey you lazy arse, do your own homework, you get what you pay for here!
Ok, that wasn't nice, sorry.
Ok, here's my take:
Stoeger's shoot fine, if you don't mind all the piddly complaints. Look on Stoeger's forum. A few hours with my Dremel tool with some grinding, polishing, and maybe a few new springs from Wolffe, and the gun would run fine.
Benelli bought Stoeger because it was cheaper to buy them than to fight them over the M2000 Benelli knock-off. This is a fact.
As to the price, absolutely, being an Italian company has something to do with it, as does demand in that Benelli sells every gun it makes usually well in advance of the gun's production.
If Beretta Holdings treats Benelli USA as a customer partner as opposed to a true subsidiary, that too could be affecting the price.
Benellis in Europe are not priced the same as they are outside of Europe. It costs a lot of $$$ to get Italian products into the US; ocean or airfreight, customs & duties, etc.
I bet we would all be surprised to see what an 11-87 costs in Europe.
Tucker, why not call Europe and find out what they sell an 11-87 for, I know that should keep your ADHD busy for 5-6 minutes...
The trick is to really work your gun shop owner for a good price. Most of us are able to get a half-way decent price with a little whining and groveling....
mudhen - CA