Mr. Mac

Missouri is on board.

Good catch!

Without knowing what powder you're using it's kind of difficult. Alliant - http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/RecipeList.aspx?gauge=10&gtypeid=10&shotype=1

Compare a pump to an auto for recoil? You bet! If a manufacturer can take a gun design that is notorious for its recoil and make it less than what is universally accepted as the lightest recoil design and beat it, I'd advertise that pretty loudly myself. As for how they shoot, once again, go back to the design and it's easy to see how a pump action is inherently more accurate than an auto (I know, a scattergun and accuracy...go to the trap/skeet range and we'll talk) though we could argue that point until the cows come home. No, the real test will be to shoot one as agm said.

I was shooting an average of 22 with my Winchester and with my Browning I'm now holding my own with a solid 23.5 and improving every time!

Geez Pete, Louise I need a vacation! What I should have said is 'a cylinder choke opening is typically only .005" larger than skeet so you may also want to consider that.' Thank you, Novaking! I sometimes suffer from HUTA* Head Up The Anus

$19.95 from Carlson's. A skeet choke is typically only .005 larger than skeet so you may also want to consider that.

But at least it's here!

I retired from the United States Air Force in 1995 and I too never forget to honor our dead and living soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen! Thanks to you all and your families for the sacrifices you made.

Fixed. Canada geese.

So, why do we have 3-1/2" chambers in a 12 gauge anyways? The answer is so that we don't have to have several different guns in our safe to do one job. When we were allowed to shoot lead at late season Canada geese, a 3" chamber was fine and the shot could easily reach the higher altitudes these birds were flying over areas without decoys. Now we have steel and other non-toxic shot which is lighter than lead and does not compress and deform like lead did as it left the barrel. Because of that we have to use less pellets and they need to be bigger to have the same energy upon impact as the lead did. The best way to do this was to add some payload and powder to lob that payload up into the stratosphere where the gees fly. That is why the 3-1/2” 10 gauge was the gun to have in late December or early January. I have a Remington Express Super Magnum that shoots these big old shells and yes, the recoil is more than a 3” but still manageable especially when there are birds overhead and I’m wearing extra layers! That said, when you’re launching 1-1/4 oz. of no. 2 steel shot at 1,625 fps, you’re gonna know you pulled the trigger but will soon forget it when that big old Canadian hits the ground! The greatest thing about it is while I did go and buy a new gun I was able to sell my old gun to make room in the safe and I still can shoot all the 2-3/4” or 3” shells that are in stored in the ammo locker and I can continue to reload without adding that to the mix as well.

Kent Cartridge Ultimate Diamond Shot Turkey Shotshells (if those are what he's using) are readily available west of the Mississippi from Bass Pro Shops, Dick's Sporting Goods, and Sportsman’s Warehouse. Not sure about the east side. I have only shot a couple of boxes of Kent Velocity through my Winchester 1400 and didn't do any worse than normal at the trap range but never patterned them purposely. The price on the Kent’s ($7.79) were about 30% higher than the Win Super-X ($5.99) I normally shoot so I haven't gone back to them since.

That all depends on where you'll be hunting. The area I hunted this year offered me shots from 20 to 40 yards so I patterned my Remington 870 with an H.S. UnderTaker out to 40 yards and found that the Winchester Super-X Turkey loads (3" 1 7/8 oz #5) patterned better (average 20 pellets per shot, five shots fired) over the Remington Nitro Turkey Ext. Range Magnum loads (3" 1 7/8 oz of #5). The Remington's pattern density was fine but the pattern was spread out more than the Winchesters. Seven pellets will be lethal provided it's consistent.

Early in the season since we're shooting through the leaf filled trees at fairly close ranges we use open chokes like cylinder or skeet and IC and number Win AA Target loads 1 1/8 oz. #9s in our doubles. As the season progresses and the cover drops and the shooting lanes open we move to IC/Mod and Win Super-X Game Loads with 1 oz. of #7 1/2 or even #6s.

Truly, the best way to answer that question is a trip to thew patterning board and verify the results for yourself.