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Well I don't know about you fellas, but I'm havin' fun with it!

I think IPSC competition is "sporting" for damn sure!!!

Benelli ought to be able to tell us whether or not the Attorney General has ruled that the M4 with 18 inch bbl and collapsible stock is not suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes.

For entries, nothing beats grenades. For home defense a quick handling shotgun is hard to beat.

When loading, have your thumb facing the top of the receiver and use your knucke up to shove the round home. Then your bent knuckle will help hold the gate off while you withdraw your thumb.

I am aware of reports of a letter from BATF, though I have not seen the letter, but BATF has no statutory authority to define what is or is not acceptable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes. That can only be done by the Attorney General, and must be published in either the United States Code or in the Federal Register. It must first be published as a notice and after a comment period, can become a rule if not modified during the comment period. That has clearly not happened.

I'd be very interested to hear your comments on these research observations and the opinion resulting:

Before you buy an M4, inspect the box carefully. You should be able to tell if it's been cursed by looking for strange markings, signs of chicken blood, pin holes, animal urine, etc.. I made sure the one I bought wasn't cursed. I didn't go so far as having it blessed by a Priest, but it performs flawlessly and I couldn't be happier with it.

Do the easy stuff first. Disassemble your shotgun down to the receiver and buffer tube. Get a can of "Breakfree Gun Blast". Put the little tube on the spray nozzle. Holding your receiver with the buffer tube end up, begin hosing the innards of the buffer tube liberally with the gun blast. Keep it up until it runs clear out of the receiver. Then do it once more just in case somebody put WD-40 or other stuff that turns to varnish or goo in there. after the buffer tube quits dripping and dries out, spray just a little teflon based lube (Remington or similar) or break-free into it from the inside of the receiver and cycle the recoil spring plunger a few times with a dowel rod to spread the lube and feel that it's moving freely and that the only resistance is the spring.

If all else fails, try the weaker of the two. If I understand the design correctly, (I have an M4, which might be different) the firing pin spring only has to hold the pin off of the primer until the hammer strikes it. It doesn't really play a role in the firing sequence otherwise. Using the weaker one will allow less resistance to the firing pin when the hammer strikes it.

You're one of the lucky few. Hang on to it. So far as I know you're fine. Does yours have the long magazine tube too?

The purpose of 922r was to prevent civilians from owning imported firearms that looked unacceptably mean and icky to certain Congresswomen who don't know diddly jack about firearms. If it were US made you could either buy one off the rack, or make it yourself from parts, so long as the barrel stays at least 18 inches and the overall length is at least 26 inches. If you happen to really like the Benelli M4 design, as I do, but want the M1014 features, the only way to get one is to pay a tax and limit it's resale value or else go the long way around and replace enough parts to keep it legal per 922r.

The cosmetic effects of the collapsible stock and extended magazine also positively affect my personal utility function. I simply like the way it looks in that configuration.

Increasing the magazine capacity and having a collapsible stock available renders the firearm more functional. But you can't do that to an imported firearm unless you are LE, Military or unless you get an approved form 1 through ATF. The M4 with the 5 shot magazine and the fixed buttstock has been legally imported. The collapsible stock and 7 shot version that is imported is not legal for sale to any but Law enforcement or military. Modifying an imported "civilian legal" M4 within the bounds of 922r means you have to reduce those parts on "the list" to ten or less from an imported source to be legal without registering it on a form 1. So by replacing five of the 15 parts on "the list" with non-imported US parts, you avoid the need to file a form 1 to be legal.

I saw some screw on extensions at Cabela's that were for the M1 S 90. Don't recall the manufacturer. Dave's is a good bet though and very reasonably priced. He only charges $60.00 for his one piece 7 +1 Magazine tubes.

Oh, and as for the cheating, i.e. stamping "US MADE" on the existing parts, I for one would rather spend several hundred dollars and be legal than spend tens of thousands and time in jail. So if I can avoid the tax (form 1) by spending money on parts, and have a firearm that is legal for anyone to own, as opposed to a highly restricted one, I'm going to go that way. In the end, it's the same damn gun. It's a great example of how absolutely insane many of our firearms laws are.

A form 1 is "only" $200.00 IF you can get local LE approval on it. Then you have a firearm that you can only transfer "as is" to a SOT (Special Occupational Tax) FFL holder. (aka Class III dealer) Otherwise you have to put it back into original trim. Why would you have to change anything? Many reasons. Here are my reasons in order of importance: 1. It renders the firearm more functional for defensive use. 2. It pi$$es off Senators Feinstein, Schumer, Clinton, Biden, and others to name a few, along with causing severe gastritis and postmenopausal cramping in Sarah Brady. Actually this might be a good enough reason to make it number one.

If your pattern is solid, but just located in the "wrong place" then you need to adjust your stock. You need to add some "cast off" to your stock to bring the pattern in line with your eye. Ask Benelli Customer service for the correct shims to do this. Here's a link to a good read on the topic http://www.billhanusbirdguns.com/archive26.html

Cool tool for sure, but man you have a face only a mother could love!

Surefire has the new picatiny rail forend for the M4 in stock and available. It's not shown in the online catalog, but you can order it by phone. The part number is M80. I ordered one today and it was shipped. 5. American made magazine tube ... check 4. Surecycle magazine follower ... check 3. American made forend ... check 2. ??? a hammer or trigger perhaps ? either one would do 1. a disconnector perhaps ??? -should be an easy part to duplicate. Still not as cheap as filing a form 1, but any time you can avoid paying a tax, you should. It's an American's duty.

Once again, I posted before using the search function. I found the info I needed in an old thread. Thanks to all the moderators for runnning a great and very helpful forum.

A friend has an M1014 with the collapsible stock on it. How do you get the butt / cheek piece part of the stock off of the buffer tube? Is there some kind of Chinese puzzle trick, or do you have to drill out the pin that is in place to engage the detents?

Count me in for a set.