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P.S. In the interest of full disclosure, and out of due respect to those who are, I am not a Marine. My dad served in the USMC during WW II. He instilled in me a deep and abiding respect and admiration for the Marine Corps, and it must have rubbed off on my youngest son, who is right now serving with the 2/2 Marines. He's a SAW gunner, (MOS 0311), and is currently packing and prepping for deployment. (open season year 'round and no bag limits where he's going) God Bless and keep well the USMC and Godspeed in their mission! Semper Fi Indeed!!!

Mine (I mean Barney's) came from tacticalshotguner.com http://www.tacticalshotgunner.com/ggg-benelli-tactical-charging-handle-p-76.html

Clinton signed the AWB. Janet Reno was his enforcer. She sent tanks and flamethrowers to kill Americans whose religion and behavior bothered her. Neither of the Bushs have been friends of the second Amendment either. GWB has allowed his justice department to file an erroneous and misleading brief in the Parker v. DC case, stating that if the Supreme Court finds that the second amendment protects an individual right it will call into question all other anti gun laws, and so therefore asking them not to determine such. Father Bush was at the helm when the FBI sniper shot Randy Weaver's wife for no good reason except spurious charges against Weaver for gun law violations. Weaver was acquitted and the US taxpayers paid him and his daughters 2.3 million dollars in damages but that didn't bring his wife back to life.

Well, if I were the kind of scofflaw who would trick out an M4, I would make it just like this one that belongs to my friend Barney the DevilDawg Dinosaur. I'd get a sidesaddle shell holder, fat bolt handle, Surefire handguard with Surefire light & thumbswitch, full length mag tube, tritium inserts in the ghost rings, surecycle spring and follower, Urban ERT single point sling... it would look just like this: But Barney lets me shoot his whenever I want, so I don't need to.

His wife is probably not at all happy about this outcome. His girlfriend sure is though.

The solution to many of these problems is to elect a freedom friendly Congress. If we had freedom respecting good citizens representing us in our legislature, idiotic laws would not get written in the first place, let alone passed.

Call their 800 number and ask for it. It's available and in stock but not shown on the website. I think the part number is M-80. Their phone is 1-800-828-8809

I own several articles of 5.11 clothing. The holster shirt undergarment is superb for CCW. I keep my Kimber Ultra carry II in it and with most shirts over top it's invisible, but easily accessible. Their tactical pants are as tough as any bluejeans, and their shooting vest is a rock solid product too. Good stuff!

Rudy G. or Mitt Romney wouldn't be a whole lot better from an RKBA perspective. Folks, we need to get serious about fixing our Congress this next election. That may be more important than who gets elected President. Find pro hunting, pro 2A Congressional candidates and vote for them. Support them. Help them win.

Lots of discussion here about which profile of Benelli shotgun we can buy or assemble where, and what rules apply or don't apply. If one of these antigun socialist numbnuts, like Senator Clinton or Senator O'bama, (is he a black Irishman?) manages to get elected President of the US, and we keep the current democrat Congress in power, we're gonna have lots bigger problems than those to deal with. The entire USA could end up like California, New York or Illinois for hunters and shooters.

I bought the Surecycle mag follower and spring. They say their part is made in USA. I have their statement and paperwork. If they misrepresented the product, I have plausible deniability and a counter claim. Same for the SureFire 3 rail handguard, and as for the magazine tube, It's stamped "made in USA".

Well, I think like you do, but if you read the letter of the law, you find that only the Attorney General is authorized to make the determinaton of what is "suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes." If you do a search of this subject, you'll find lots of threads discussing it in great detail. The fact with this law as with any law is that until it's heard in the courts, nobody really knows what its limits are or what its meaning is. I personally don't want to be the one to fund the test case that defines it. Know what I'm sayin' ? Parts are lots cheaper than lawyers. I'm buying enough US made parts so that I am beyond any question.

While I doubt that chasing down magazine or stock installers is a top priority for ATF, I think that the law in fact means exactly what it says: The term any person is quite unambiguous. The fact that parts used to assemble the "restricted" gun are not imported may mean that installing a US mag tube is OK but it won't cover installation of the Imported collapsible stock.

Batteries will go dead at inopportune times. Tritium lasts for many years. Simple, effective, efficient. To my way of thinking, it's a for short range, close quarters work and it's scattergun anyhow so you don't need pinpoint accuracy. A few rounds of O buck discharged in the general direction of your target at ranges out to 25 yards will be quite effective.

I have US made magazine tube, magazine follower and front handguard. I'm waiting for two more parts, hopefully a hammer and a disconnector so that I will only have 10 imported "parts" on my gun. Every once in a while, I close all the curtains, dim the lights, lock the doors, screw on the full length mag tube and slip on the collapsible stock just to see what it's going to look and feel like some day. Of course I only leave them on for a few minutes, and I have timed myself to make sure I can have the mag tube and stock both removed in the time it takes for BATF to kick down my front door, get past the dog, (I'll hear their shots when they shoot it) come through the house, get scolded by my wife for breaking the door, killing the dog and getting mud on her oriental rugs, and finally breach the door to my gun room. I'm just that kind of a scofflaw. Kinda like when the Duke boys used to drive General Lee home from town and the Sheriff would try to catch them.

They should not only be loose, but should also have no lube on them. Make sure they're clean and dry.

If you use the search function you will find lots of threads on this subject. Most people say that it violates 922r if you "make" a gun from imported parts which is like a gun that has been found by the Attorney General of the US to be not suitable for, or readily adaptable for sporting purposes. If BATF decided to charge you with a violation of that law for having an M4 that you modified, they'd have to convince a judge and jury that screwing on a stock that fits you better, and putting on a tube that holds two more shells for use in three gun competition, etc. is not a suitable sporting purpose and also that unscrewing these two parts and putting it back to original out of the box configuration is not "readily adaptable". Do you want to spend $X,000 in legal fees, or do you want to pay $200 and register it on a form 1 as an SBS, or do you want to buy five US made parts to reduce the number of "parts" as defined in 922r to 10 or less, at which point 922r no longer applies? You have three options.

The M4 I just bought had the same buffer spring tube as the LE version, milled for three positions. It's marked M4 and that's all it has for model ID besides a serial number and the company name.

Note: On the M1 Super 90, it looks like you do remove the stock retaining nut at the rear, then remove the screw stud that the nut is attached to. The plunger assembly is a bit more complex than for the M4 in that it has a damper spring and pin at the back end of the plunger. Here's a schematic that should help: http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/schematics/schemmfg.aspx?schemid=682&m=1&mn=Benelli+U.S.A.%c2%ae&model=Super+90+M1+Field+#84

The following is for the M4 but should be similar for other Benellis. Disassemble it (remove barrel and bolt, trigger assemby) and then remove the stock by unscrewing it. (once the trigger assembly is out, you can turn the stock on the buffer tube and unscrew it) With the stock off, at the end of the buffer spring tube you will find an internal snap ring and under that a threaded plug. Remove the snap ring. Next find two small holes in the side of the buffer tube near the plug. Insert a small screwdriver bit or pin in one of the two so as to capture the spring. Then screw out the plug from the end of the tube. You should not need a tool to unscrew the plug. You should be able to unscrew it with the tip of your finger unless it's really gunked up or rusted. The plug is slotted for a wide bit screwdriver if needed. As you remove the plug, keep ahold of whatever you used to capture the spring. Now put a shop towel over the end of the spring and grab the end that protrudes firmly then remove the capture tool while hanging on to the spring. It will try to come out rather forcefully so be prepared. Now invert the tube and the buffer spring plunger that rides against the rear arm of the bolt will fall out. you can now clean out the innards of the tube, the spring and the tappet. Reverse for reassembly after using a good lube, inserting the plunger first in the correct orientation. When reinserting the buffer spring, it helps to use a length of appropriate diameter dowel rod to keep the spring aligned while you shove it back into the buffer tube. Then use your capture tool again to hold most of the tension off while you start the threaded plug back in on top of the spring. Screw the plug to its original position, replace the snap ring and you're in business.

The following is for the M4 but should be similar for other Benellis. I can't comment on whether it's necessary to clean out the buffer spring tube, but if you want to inspect it, here's how: (DO NOT remove the buffer spring tube from the receiver) Disassemble the shotgun. (remove barrel and bolt, trigger assemby) and then remove the stock by unscrewing it. (once the trigger assembly is out, you can turn the stock on the buffer tube and simply unscrew it) You do not need to remove the recoil pad or disconnect anything at the butt end of the stock. With the stock off, at the end of the buffer spring tube you will find an internal snap ring and under that a threaded plug. Remove the snap ring. Next find two small holes in the side of the buffer tube near the plug. Insert a small screwdriver bit or pin in one of the two so as to capture the spring. Then screw out the plug from the end of the tube. You should not need a tool to unscrew the plug. You should be able to unscrew it with the tip of your finger unless it's really gunked up or rusted. The plug is slotted for a wide bit screwdriver if needed. As you remove the plug, keep ahold of whatever you used to capture the spring. Now put a shop towel over the end of the spring and grab the end that protrudes firmly then remove the capture tool while hanging on to the spring. It will try to come out rather forcefully so be prepared. Now invert the tube and the tappet that rides against the rear arm of the bolt will fall out. you can now clean out the innards of the tube, the spring and the tappet. Reverse for reassembly after using a good lube, inserting the tappet first in the correct orientation. When reinserting the buffer spring, it helps to use a length of appropriate diameter dowel rod to keep the spring aligned while you shove it back into the buffer tube. Then use your capture tool again to hold most of the tension off while you start the threaded plug back in on top of the spring. Screw the plug to its original position, replace the snap ring and you're in business.

I always hold down the bolt release down because I can't hold down it up. Ya know?

To get the trigger assy back in, first make sure the pistol grip is lined up exactly with the receiver so that the trigger guard can enter its recess. Hold down the bolt release button down and just slip the assembly in place. It takes some wiggling and pressure to get it seated all the way back into the recess against the pistol grip. Once it's seated, make sure the front edge is lined up with the bottom of the receiver and pop the pin back in place.

Those of us who know anything about firearms and who attempt to comply with these laws understand how silly and ineffective they are. The only functionality these laws limit is that which renders these firearms more easily fitted to different sized people, and which makes them more convenient to store. I'm sure it would be perfectly legal to shorten my M4 non adjustable stock by just cutting it off at the end of the buffer tube, Gluing a new plate on the back and refitting a smaller recoil pad to it. I wonder why things that simply slip on or screw on are not considered "readily adaptable". If for some reason a collapsible stock is not "suitable for sporting purposes", the ability to quickly screw on a fixed stock should render said firearm "readily adaptable". I don't want to be the one to find out, but If I had the money to spend on a series of trials, I would bet a sensible rational judge who is not totally anti gun, nor interested in making firearms law from the bench would find with me on this. I even more sure that at least 3, maybe 4 and possibly even 5 Supreme Court Justices would also find with me.

The reason for this post is that I can't find where the Attorney General has made this ruling. BATF does not have the statutory authority to make the ruling regardless of how much people in it may want to.