Well it seams Kenw111 is the go to guy for optics. Heck, he even used my pic in this post. The way I see it, I put it on MY M4 THAT I PAID FOR!!!!!!! And it the optic comes flying off it's no ones fault but my own. If that happens then I WILL BE THE ONE TO PAY AND FIX IT!!!!! Not sure why the thread I posted was removed other that the few guys that was going back and forth over who was right. I honestly could care less. But its a damn shame that someone can't post a thread on here without the KIND OF EVERYTHING BENELLI highjacking the thread because someone does something he doesn't like.