bambihunter

I can't say that it would hurt it though few guns are officially designed to dry fire. Just get a 'snap cap' then there is no down side to doing so.

Another thing it could be is the recoil spring or the tube where it resides is gunked or rusted up. I've seen several that had odd feeding issues that I couldn't seem to work out and decided to look there. In these cases they had a lot of what was dry material at one time. It looked like grass and corn shuck particles, then oiled. One was severely rusted. On that one I had to replace the entire tube and spring. Full disclosure, I don't work on guns for a living, but I hunt with a lot of different guys and when they start talking about selling their "P.O.S. of a gun" because it jams all the time, I try to buy it from them. I work on it and then I take it back out next time I hunt with them and show them it works. MANY of the times they bought it back. I make a little bit on it, not really enough for the time I spend, but I help keep these guys shooting Benelli's which I am happy to do.

I agree completely with sigouvra78. The exception would be for something that was limited supply and then laws were also changed making even the base model hard to obtain. This happened during the 10 year AWB starting in the mid-90's. This same reason also made the M4 model 11711 very valuable. They were released to the public in a form that really shouldn't have been sold and the ATF quickly shut that down.

I think it's more the rubberized ones, and the ones with comfort tech, and/or recoil pads failing. It seems the ones with the plain hard fiberglass (or whatever it is) stock don't seem to have an issue and if the pad does get sticky, it's 2 screws and takes a few minutes to change.

I doubt they made the pad. I am not experienced with any Benelli that has had this issue, but I have a lot of Remington 700's from the 90's - 2000's that had Limbsaver recoil pads. In spite of all having great lives in temperature controlled safes, they did similar. Thankfully, both Remington and Limbsaver eventually started a recall program. However, they did it after most people had already done it themselves. Thankfully they are not expensive and for most guns they are easy to do. I am not recoil adverse for most calibers until you start getting up to 12 gauge 3.5" mags or .338 Lapua / .375 H&H territory so I put back harder pads that won't deteriorate. Those handful of guns that I actively shoot that do recoil harder than I care to absorb, I'll just replace the pad once every 20 - 30 years or so.

To my knowledge they don't exist. The M4 was derived from the M1014 which was designed to comply with the gas operated requirement of the USMC shotgun contest. That gas operated design utilized Benelli's ARGO which, in a different form, was also used in their short lived auto loading rifles. If memory serves, were around the time of HK imports. Welcome to the site. As far as the M4, I am fairly sure you'll have to settle for a much younger brother to your M1. However, in spite of some of us like myself being partial to the Benelli Inertia action, the M4's do fit into the collection nicely. If you are looking for a rare HK variant for your collection, consider an M3, it's a semi-auto/pump combo gun. They re-released it recently too though the original has a rare folding stock version that I am partial to. If you decide you want a rare M4, the NP3 model 11711 is likely the rarest of that model. M3T Folders:

I'd imagine you'll be looking a while. But, keep your eyes open and be patient. One never knows.

I can't really see the chamber well enough to know. It looks more like a packing oil/light grease than a finish issue. The finish under the forearm isn't delicate per se, but I imagine he just forced it on. If one has it too far out of line or it binds in anyway, it can scratch it. The barrel ring that goes around it has pretty sharp corners. I am not sure how I'd feel about it either. I'm a stickler for condition and even my 31 year old Super Black Eagle is in dang good shape and it has been hunted hard every season, particularly from Sept. 1 through end of year following the different bird seasons. But, I have dinged around where the two halves of the receiver join together. I finally found a technique that worked, but at first there was just too many things to keep track of all at once. I imagine the Cabela's guy doesn't have much experience and was rushing to assemble.

If they looked new, I'd buy them. They are in good shape though and not a bad price for all it includes.

Thought it is not specifically about what you are after in this topic I think will answer your question. It has some diagrams too so you can look at those. The user StrangerDanger always posts informative stuff like that.

I don't know of any Benelli USA ones that can ghost load. Perhaps there was a very small batch of the different types, but none that I have ever found. Not that I really use it when hunting or anything, but that is one specific reason why I look for HK marked ones. I usually then have the seller take a picture of the bottom of the bolt to see if shows 1 groove or 2. MrMilitaryPolice - This thread talks about it and different ways to achieve that if desired: Opinions differ, but from what I've been able to tell from GunBroker searches I've had on since forever (I think 2001 or so), it seems that HK Benelli's do bring a small premium but condition is a much bigger factor. Many don't agree Gunbroker is a good test for prices, but it's a real-time way to see what they sell for across the US. If one is looking for that highly unusual or rare item, it is THE go-to place. I've practically filled my collection with things I'd have never found locally. I have at least a dozen guns that I can think of off the top of my head that have a production or import run of less than 180 items that were all sourced there.

I always watch Gunbroker for the national average price on things but it doesn't show any recently sold ones. https://www.gunbroker.com/semi-auto-shotguns/search/completed?keywords=benelli 11711&timeframe=1&sort=1&pagesize=96 If you have an account there, you can set up a saved search to notify you when one is listed. You log in, go to advanced search, and type your search parameters. I have always just used "Benelli 11711". You can then tick the box to save the search. Then go into the saved searches settings in your account, and have you notify you the way and frequency you want. This is how I have found all my rare and unusual things. Some things I have wanted and put a saved search took me many years (recently acquired one that was on my list since I joined GB in 2001). The search for current listings for the 11711 is this: https://www.gunbroker.com/semi-auto-shotguns/search?keywords=benelli 11711&sort=1&pagesize=96 The one listed there has been listed for quite a while. There might have been one sold for that much during the peak of COVID crazy buying, but generally speaking, they almost never go for that much. Yours is like mine, same condition and everything, unfired, in the correct box, etc. I'd be a little surprised if they'd still sell for $5k but one never knows. If you were serious about selling it, put a $4k starting price on it and see where it goes. Or, set your minimum and let it run. Just don't use reserves, most people I know won't look at a reserve option unless the reserve is already met when bidding. For myself, if I was looking, I put a check in the box marked No Reserve. That link looks like this: https://www.gunbroker.com/semi-auto-shotguns/search?keywords=benelli 11711&noreserve=1&sort=13&pagesize=96 If you do decide to sell it, you might post a link to it here since many people want one.

No, not at all. Remember the M3 has the pump action so it has a different cutouts to allow that action. Also, if you are looking, make sure you get the right age/generation of M3 barrel. From what I can tell, the older HK era models look different than the newer M3's. If it follows the other models like M1 to M2 changes, it will have a barrel ring to give a positive stop when inserting the barrel to the receiver. The older M1's as well as M3's did not have that. It's been a long time since I had either of my M3T folders apart, but the barrel lug behind the ring was shorter on the older SBE's, M1's, etc. than the newer models. The M3 has the indent where the slide lock catches so that may or may not hold true on the M3, but they are certainly different than any other Benelli barrel. Also, you didn't mention yours being a folder, but if it is, they took a unique barrel to function completely as the rear sight location is slightly different and use completely different sights. If you put a non-folder barrel on a folding stock model, the sight doesn't lock the folded stock in place like shown in the top picture. Those sights is how it locks, and there's a release button on them to allow the user to fold it down. If you have the newer style M3, you can likely buy a new one at places like Numrich, Midway, etc. Be prepared however as most Benelli semi-auto barrels are ~$500 and up for new ones. Good luck on your quest. The M3's are fairly unique in the shotgun world. There may be others, but the only others that I know of that are both semi-auto and pump like the M3 is the detachable magazine Franchi SPAS-15 and tube magazine SPAS-12 which looks cool but is a pain to use. Its controls are just awkward. I just saw the original post was 16 years ago and was necro-bumped. LOL

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/benelli/shotguns/semi-auto-shotguns/m1-super-90-military-and-police You'll want this part if you don't have anything at all. On the schematic, it's part #85: Ring Joining Assembly, New Factory Original Part Key: 85 Prod #: 741010A $38.25

Dedduc has it correct. They were labeled and sold as the ultimate turkey gun. While uncommon, they aren't exactly rare. And, though uncommon, I've not found them to increase the value even to people like myself that prefer the SBE 1. This is in part due to the fact that the pistol grip generally makes wing shooting more difficult. Not impossible, just more difficult. There were a lot of M1's sold with pistol grips, and if memory serves, they share the buttstock with the early SBE's. I have 2 pistol grip stocks that I bought 25+ years ago, one is still in factory wrap, one I used one season and took it back off even though my intention was to have one SBE configured for turkey or use with my slug barrel, the other for everything else.