GENELEO
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m4 - Absolutely.
I've never shot an m3.
I've tried repeatedly on my M-3, and could never get it to work.
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Ditto!!
Cutting the end square to the bore is allmost impossible, without chucking it in a lathe. The benelli barrels are too expensive to follow that "gunsmith's" advice. IMHO.
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That is like asking "Is that paint on your car enamel, or clear-coat?"
Either answer you get won't tell you jack. There are so many ways to formulate paint--just as there are synthetic components like rubber or silicone. Look at tires. My tires, you can floor my Trans Am in the rain and they dead-hook. Cheaper tires, they look and feel the same, but spin all over the place. So much formulation goes into this kind of stuff.
All that being said, Viton O-rings *SHOULD* be an acceptable replacement, but a $4.50 part for a $1600 shotgun is nothing. Yes its stupid that it costs that, but really, how many do you expect to have to buy? Duggan has been through 12,000 rounds and only messed up one O-ring due to his heavy-handed cleaning methods.
Amen to the "heavy handed cleaning". In the past month, I have replaced the barrel seal on three different Remington 1100's, and none of them were "worn out" all were either nicked, or torn when the owner carelessly cleaned the gun. On the oldest 1100, the piston and piston seal were actually eroded, and the barrel seal would have been useable, if the owner had been more careful in dissassembling the shotgun.
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No, it would make him a friend.
ETA - Perhaps further explanation is needed. There is no law banning you from using, possessing or buying "law enforcement" ammunition ... heck half of it is available in a repackaged civilian version anyways. The issue is that ATK decided to restrict their "LE ammo" to LE only to cut back on demand and also because I beleive ammo for LE avoids the 16% tax or whatever it is, so the cop would be able to get it cheaper than you could as a civilian.
The FED EXCISE TAX is tax exempt on dept. purchase only. When I buy for my use, even as a LEO, I have to pay the tax, UNLESS, I can get the dept. to sign of on a form stating that I am making the purchase for ON DUTY use only, which they will not do. Hope this helps.
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I had a Remy 1187 and i think it had rubber ones, but Brownells sold a silicone replacement.
When you think about it, a car has a lot of rubber in the engine keeping heated parts working together.
I just bought a repair kit for an 11-87 just a couple days ago, Remington calls the material "Viton", what ever that means.
All the "older" cars used rubber components, but most modern "rubber" components are either silicone or a high silicone content mix, as real, or natural rubber detereorates rapidly. Look at natural latex gloves. The ones we carry on our gunbelts have to be replaced every few months, but the nitrile gloves hold up for a long time.
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I was surfing around on Sniper Country Emporium, where I have purchased several firearms, and located the following Benelli Supersport, NIB. Any interest, take a look.
http://www.snipercountry.com/forsale/Display_Message.asp?Message=0000013989.txt
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Silicone(?), rubber won't hold up to the heat from the gas, or the gun oils and lube.
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Sounds like a good dealer to do business with. There are a few still around. Good luck.
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The Blue Book means nothing to a dealer on a trade. He'll rape you and then he'll rape the next guy who wants to buy it.
The advantage of trading is that you unload unwanted guns quickly and get what you want.
The disadvantage is that you get raped on the deal..... always.
It also means nothing to a buyer when they can get a better deal on gunbroker.
Thus the reason I suggested that you go to gunbroker and see what similar guns are bringing in today's market.
Revolvers aren't exactly the hot commodity right now. AR's were discussed because gun owners and gun buyers are being completely stupid these days with regard to purchasing weapons that "might" be banned again under the current political climate.
They are being equally mindless in their stockpiling of ammunition.
If you look in the BLUE BOOK, as a guide to commercial gun traders, it is suggested that the dealer pays from 10 to 50% of the value of a firearm when purchasing a used gun, or taking it in, in trade, so YES, it doe's mean something to a dealer. BUT, you are right also, when you say that a dealer will rape you, but only if you let him. I have a about 60 guns, and they don't eat much, and they will sit a looooonnnng time before I will give one away to a dealer. I know in my mind when I go into a store, or a gun show what I paid for a gun originally, and I will not come out on the losing side. If I work a deal with a dealer, I expect to allow him a little profit, but he won't get rich off of me. A gunsmith friend of mine has a motto he trys to live by in his business, "you can shear a sheep many, many times, but you can only skin it once". Most business now don't realize that, just look at the prices that they want to charge you, and they're guns "don't eat" much either, but if they don't move them out the door, then the dealer "don't eat" either.
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I didn't know he was from Canada???
Canada? I thought that was the flag of the great state of kalifornia.
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Same here, they're everywhere!!!!!
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Good advice. Now to find a Beretta 391 for a decent price!!!
Check these out, found them a few minutes ago.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=128865787
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=128984053
Just a couple, there are plenty more.
Hope this helps.
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Good Morning Benelli Fans. I have a beautiful M1 Super 90 field that is in wonderful condition and a Ruger SP101 .357 revolver that is like new. My Local Benelli salesman is willing to make me a trade. My two guns plus $350 for a brand new SBEII. I am wanting to shoot 3.5" and I dont really shoot the revolver any. Do you think its a good trade for me? Am I loosing my butt on this deal? Thanks for any wisdom you can share with me.
The Ruger SP101 he can buy new for $376.00 and he is giving me $350 for it or thats how it is on paper.
According to the BLUE BOOK OF GUN VALUES 29th edition (one year old) the benelli in 100% condition is worth $825.00, in 98% it is worth $700.00. The Ruger in 100% condition, is listed as $460.00, and 98% as $345.00. unless the barrel is rollmarked as "125 grain bullet", then add another $100.00.
The values in this book are based on NATIONWIDE averages of actual market values. So the values will vary depending on certain areas of the U.S. Hope this helps.
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Incorrect, and you are wearing your springs by loading/unloading them. A spring under pressure will not lose strength. A spring cycled will. By swapping rounds out you are cycling them. Same goes for under-loading them. There is no need for this. Engineers design a spring/magazine setup with at LEAST a 10-15% "margin" before you change the spring's position beyond it's operating parameters (which WOULD damage the spring after only 1 occurance).
LE agencies want their officers to change out ammo for PLENTY of reasons...corrosion of ammo, exposure to heat/cold cycles quite often, constant vibration in a cruiser. Maybe they hope they will SHOOT it to change it out and actually go to the range more than 1-2 times a year to qualify, lol.
Either way, there is plenty of scientific fact debunking the myth that a spring is weakened by being left compressed. For example, if an engine sets up but is cranked once a week, thing will last FOREVER, but if it is run 150K miles hard in 1 year, those valves might start floating. Springs are weakened by relaxation/compression cycles. Not being left in 1 state or the other (unless heat is applied).
You are correct about a lot of rimfires though. Dead on. Since almost everyone started with a .22, this "DONT DRYFIRE! is ingrained in our heads.
After 22 years in the military, and now 20 years in Law Enforcement, I have heard the very same thing, that magazine springs will take a set. A friend of mine found a loaded .45 Colt mag that had belonged to his dad, that had supposedly come home from WW2, it was loaded in a dresser drawer. After removing the top 2 rounds from the mag, the remaining rounds fell out, and the spring remained collapsed inside the magazine. I have purchased several semi-autos of various makes that were "police trade ins", and after comparing free lengths of used springs to new springs, the used springs were shorter, they had "taken a set". They were shorter, thus weaker, thus worn. I just measured my 5 year old springs from my Glock 22, and compared them against a set of new spare springs, and they are the 1/8 inch shorter. I swap the mags every 28 days. I'm satisified.
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Purchased a new single trigger coach gun a few days ago, when I got it home and opened the box the trigger had a casting flaw or crack.
Has anyone else had this problem?
Benelli has told me the estimated repair time is 60 days.
I was soo excited about shooting the new gun and now I'm looking at two months:(
If you purchased it locally, take it back to the dealer, and ask him to "swap it out" for a non-defective firearm. It will also tell you how eager he is to please his customers, and whether you want to deal with that dealer again.
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No, spring tension will not weaken a spring, it is the compression/expansion cycle that weakens a spring.
Dry firing should not harm the Nova.
"Spring tension" will not weaken a spring, BUT, a spring being constantly under tension will. That is why the military, and some LE agencies advise that you only load your magazines to 90% of capacity when they will be loaded for a long period of time. I keep two "full sets" (3 mags each, Glock 22) that I swap out every 28 days, when I go from the day shift to the night shift, to keep the springs in the mags from taking a "set". It works the same basic way with all springs, if it stays under tension, it will eventually "take a set" and reduce the effectiveness (power or strength) of the spring. Most modern firearms, have a high quality steel in the firing pins, and firing pin springs and it will not harm them to be dry fired, as in releasing tension on the firing pin spring for long term storage of a center fire cartridge weapon, BUT it will damage a rim fire weapon, as it will "peen" the edge of the chamber where the firing pin strikes it.
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Arnold's dont look to bad either!
Is that Kalifornia legal?
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Michael P, please enlighten me as to why accuracy will suffer? What is the basis for your statement?
Sabot slug loads have been shot out of M4's for many years (Leo's, military). I shoot them out of mine all the time (especially with my chokes) and they are very accurate (http://www.blackborechokes.com).
Now, there are slug loads out there that do not use a sabot (wad), but they use a base wad of some type.
GTPSC
Sabot slugs are designed to be "spin stabilized", as would happen through a rifled barrel, or rifled choke. If it isn't spin stabilized, "accuracy suffers".
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I'm not saying it wouldn't do some damage to soft tissue, I just wouldnt perfer to use it in home defense situation when you have the better choices of 00 buck or #4 shot if you are really concerned about over penetration. Alisske I appreciate your post on your door breaching rounds and always like to see a fellow members actual reviews. Gentlemen, the legal stuff as stated by geneleo is something I hope none of us ever have to face.
AMEN!!!!!!!
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I would highly doubt its lethal and would not use it for home defense. The round will break into sand like matertial when it comes in contact with something . If your worried about the rest of the neighborhood use #4 shot instead of 00. Federal make some great #4 for home defense.
http://sgcusa.com/product_info.php?cPath=3_75&products_id=550
If it didn't prove effective, 100%, meaning the intended target is no longer breathing or doing anything else. The lawyers would be lining up to take your home, car and everything you will ever own the rest of your life in the insuing lawsuit. In "normal" home defense distances though, just about anything coming out of a 12 gauge bore at standard velocity wil leave nothing but a bloody rat hole, with a lot of what use to be inside leaking outside.
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Has anyone used the Benelli Armi Oil? If so whear did you get it?
I had a son-in-law that was deployed on a ship in the Navy who was on a port visit in Naples Italy pick some up for me from a small Italian gun shop, a while back. OK, but I wouldn't go to Italy to buy it. CLP is better IMO.
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IF YOU HAVE IT, A TRUCK BROUGHT IT
Not this time.
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Dear All,
I'd like to ask for your help!
Do anybody now a changable forearm for Benelli M3, whereat I can fix Picatinny or Weaver rail style tactical equipments (e.g.: vertical grip)?
My other question is, that is there any ComforTech Synthtic stock with pistol rip for also Benelli M3?
I'm waiting for your answers.
Gaborr
I have an M-3, and have never seen any other fore end than the one that came stock. There are "pistol grip" style butt stocks, Benelli makes them and so do some other aftermarket mfg,s. Just look around, and you should be able to find one. E-Bay, Gunbroker, etc.
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After 22 years military, (Vietnam Vet) and 20 years LE (Retiring June 30, 2009), I think about it all the time. Everyone should.