Evolution
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So are you going to pin the stock so it can't telescope? Otherwise, under current California law, you would be manufacturing and possessing an unregistered assault weapon by having a semi auto shotgun with a pistol grip and telescoping stock.
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On 12/19/2019 at 4:16 AM, Redweirdbeard said:
Someone is selling a geissele hammer for 1,700 on gun broker. Is this the going rate?
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/848835789
Saying "Someone" is far too kind. I think that I paid about sixty bucks for mine from Brownells about 4 years ago. That's what the thing is worth. About 60 bucks.
Humanity never disappoints.
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Obviously your gun doesn't like that particular ammo but works fine with everything else so a non issue IMO. Just for fun, I would closely examine/compare the rims of the Hornady ammo with the rims on the other brands.
For some reason it seems like your extractor slips off of the shell rim instead of grippping and pulling it out of the chamber.
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20 hours ago, shootingsight said:
I'm designing a replacement charging handle for the Benelli M4. I'm not in love with Beretta's tri-cut indent on the tip that holds it in. It allows the handle to fall somewhere between a spinner, and a non-rotating charging handle as it has 'bumps' in the rotation. But if you over rotate it, or get it between bumps, it can start walking out on you.
So I'm curious to hear, who likes:
1. Benelli design as-is, where a part-rotation makes disassembly easy.
2. A free rotating spinner that you just yank sideways to pop out.
3. A non-rotating handle that you also have to yank out straight.
Thoughts?
Benelli design as is with same shape just a slightly larger knob. But honestly, I have no desire to change mine because it works for me and it doesn't come out unless I want it to and it's NP3 plated.
But your work does look awesome!
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Welcome!
No doubt thousands of people on the internet will say that they shoot rifled slugs out of their modified choked M4's without any issues.
I don't, because I like to err on the side of what the manufacturer says and you already know what they say.
As to your other question why they come equipped with the MOD choke and not an IC, I haven't ever seen an answer to that.
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Just now, Evolution said:
LOL....I have a brother in law just like him! Sad thing is, he's had my sister completely bamboozled for thirty years.
OOPS!!! wrong thread.....
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Yeah....reminds me of a brother in law of mine. Sad thing is, he's had my sister bamboozled for more than thirty years.
You're right that's him for sure. And also right about this vid being his response to what he encountered here. No doubt.
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LOL....I have a brother in law just like him! Sad thing is, he's had my sister completely bamboozled for thirty years.
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I was looking for a messenger type bag for flying on small jets between SFO and Tucson that don't allow for a typical normal size carry-on bag. For my laptop and stuff like that which you can't afford to go missing in a lost checked bag. I had an old small laptop bag that I used for years but there was not much room in it for anything else.
I had been looking at Kreiga bags because I use one of their small waterproof bags strapped to the seat of my Ducati when I ride and they make a quality product. So I bought one their messenger bags then I discovered the Vanquest site and decided that I needed a new range bag as well.
While it doesn't have specific pockets made for holding magazines, it can easily handle what I usually take to a typical range day for me and I like the twin bottle pockets on the sides.
Fa molto caldo in the summer where I live.
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I don't think he's been banned by the site, more like being shamed away by peers. He could be back though, cuz I don't think he's capable of feeling shame.
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I'm terrible at taking and uploading pictures, hell I can't even figure out how to upload an avatar on this site.
So, I'll show a picture from the website of the 13" model bag that I bought recently to rplace my ripped up range bag.
This is an awesome bag IMO, super tough thick material, several pockets with one for a pistol and fits up to a 13" laptop as well as two pockets that will fit quart sized water bottles. Double handles on top and a shoulder strap. Perfect for the range trip.
I encourage to watch the video on the site too.
https://www.vanquest.com/envoy-13-gen-4-messenger-bag/
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Yeah go figure. I replaced the hammer with a Geissele one anyway when I went 922R.
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Yeah must be, because my whole system is plated. The front sight, the rear sight and the pic rail not, but all the associared screws are. The trigger and sear are, the hammer was not. The plunger cap is and the little arm for the shell carrier is plated also the hollow hammer pin is also plated.
Must have been who did what on a given day or, who knows what?
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SD; were you referring to the NP3 H2O's as not plating the gas system? I ask because on my gun the gas system is plated even the pistons and retaining pins in the gas cylinders.
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Just now, shootingsight said:
Looking to buy an M4, and it looks like there are two choices:
Pistol grip or not, or collapsing stock.
H2O or not, for an additional $200
So what is H2O? If I understand, Benelli used to make an NP3 coated gun, but now just uses a silver colored cerakote. So if I buy a new H2O, all I'm getting is silver paint for $200, or does the H2O package include any other benefit?
Follow up - was the NP3 really a benefit, and I should look for a used gun, or was it merely marketing smoke/mirrors to try and get around 922, and I should save my money and stick with black?
And what's up with brown and camo guns I see? Are those custom jobs, or discontinued? Nothing on the Benelli site.
Thanks,
Art
You answered one of your questions yourself. And no, it wasn't a marketing scheme. The original H2O was NP3 plated by ROBAR and was a considerable upgrade.
Now, I think it is just a marketing scheme because the Cerakote is not as good as the NP3 plated guns are..NP3 has superior lubricity and it does not wear off like Cerakote does.
As for the stock type, a personal preference. My gun came with the factory non-collapsing pistol grip stock and it is perfect for me in every way. I bought a field stock just to see how it was and it remains in my safe unused. I did not like the way I had to angle my wrist on it.
A lot of people don't like the non collapsing PG stock because it is too long a LOP for them.
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Just now, Jolly Roger said:
Shhhhh.! Dont get him mad, he dont like grammar nazi's ?
(I've never seen anyone with a negative reputation before! ??)
Just now, Jolly Roger said:Shhhhh.! Dont get him mad, he dont like grammar nazi's ?
(I've never seen anyone with a negative reputation before! ??)
It was inevitable from his very first post on this forum railing about Benelli for some ridiculous crap.
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52 minutes ago, kenw111 said:
ROFL......... there are no MOUNTING ISSUES.... that goes without saying, the ISSUE is keeping an Eotech (or something even larger) MOUNTED over xxxx# 1000s of shots fired.
1. the M4 / M2 receiver is ALUMINUM
2. Mass / inertia SHEERING FORCED imparted by good old Newtonian LAW will SHEER the screws, and if the screws manage to NOT SHEER, the threads will STRIP,........PERIOD
and NONE OF THIS has a single darn thing to do with loctite and or proper torque applied to those screws.
You said "Lets see if I can dispel some myths here"
the only MYTH on this thread are the countless people that think laws of Newton / Physics DONT APPLY to a HUGE MASS sitting on a rail screwed into an ALUMINUM RECEIVER
As long as you think that you know what you're speaking about, you might as well learn the difference between SHEER and SHEAR.
The word that you're using to describe the SHEARING FORCE on the pic rail has no application for what you are talking about. SHEER and SHEER-ING is not even a word in this context.
Unless you're talking about ladie's stockings.
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Just now, Jolly Roger said:
I have a friend who is looking for donkey condoms.....can I give him your number?
LOL...more like a donkey codpiece...
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Umm yeah....what the heck is that on top of it and where's the can opener?
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20 hours ago, Lossiter said:
I was very much impressed with the 1/2 inch steel version from Freedom Fighter Tactical in terms of the fit and ergonomics. . .until it came flying out of the weapon and onto the floor at around the 70 round mark. This was with a Benelli M4 14-inch using Winchester #1 buckshot 2 3/4 inch shells (16 pellets). I would personally like to see something like this, but which is bet-your-ass reliable in a self-defense context.
Whatever you make, above all else, it has to NOT spontaneously eject itself from the bolt carrier when firing the weapon.
That seems to be the sticking point with these AM bolt handles....they are not reliable in that, the detents are not done correctly so that they don't eject or fall out of the bolt carrier.
There also may be a question of proper steel hardness/wear resistance as well.
I happen to like the OEM handle both in design and aesthetically. The only change I would make to the OEM handle is to make it a wee bit larger but, not very much. It seems by the pics in this thread, someone has done that.
The question is if they do the detent cuts correctly to prevent unwanted disassembly..
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Iv'e only tried 2 different slings on my M4. The Magpul MS1 and the Blue force gear Vickers sling. Both extend and retract and hold position equally well. I prefer the MS1 sling because the material is softer and it is just a wee bit wider that the BFG sling, maybe 1/32 to a 1/16 of an inch. Not a big issue if you buy the padded versions but mine are the unpadded versions.
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33 minutes ago, Milspec said:
I asked about sending it in disassembled and they said, "We would rather not work on it."
That was the positive with Robar....you could trust them to do it right. Disassembly and reassembly.
In my mind it'll take a long time for some other company to build that kind of trust, even if they'll work on an M4.
craft??!!
Question on Benelli M4 CA-Compliant C-Stock
in Benelli
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You're absolutely mistaken. See here statute 12276.1 item 6 A&B.
https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/regs/genchar2
A semi auto shotgun that has both features of a pistol grip AND telescoping stock is an assault weapon.
You don't want to go there.