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Hmmm... not surprising to me. My opinion of FFT stuff is that generally, the stuff they put out is "almost...but, not quite."
That's the best I can describe my opinion of their stuff. I had their hand guards and I had an NP3 7 round tube of theirs.
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4 hours ago, aznwhip said:
Real question though... For those with OEM guard... How do you handle light activation? I see lots of people just running a straight light with rear light activation button, but constant on isn't always ideal right? Even mounted on the left side, you'd have to compromise your grip to turn on and off. I guessed you could drill into the guard to mount a remote.
I have a SF Scout M600 with the standard shrouded tail cap mounted on an IWC mount. I have long arms, big hands and long fingers.
I don't find that activating the light button either for momentary or on/off, has any affect on my grip that I would say compromises it.
Maybe someone with different anatomical structure would have issues but I don't. I think the standard OEM hand guards are one of the things Benelli got right with the gun, altho stippling greatly improves them.
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Yep. IMO, nothing beats OEM guards stippled by Tango Arms.
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On 5/29/2021 at 10:36 AM, StrangerDanger said:
I think I only made it to about 2500-3000 before cleaning it. It still worked just fine, I just got tired of it looking like crap and getting fowling on things like car seats.
Overall, it has about 16k thru it since 2004.
My mistake. I don't know where I pulled that figure out of. Sorry for misquoting.?
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4 hours ago, Roufus said:
Not to highjack the thread, but... I am a Glock guy so cleaning is far from important to me. Well, every 6-800 rounds, anyway. How often does the M4 have to be taken down and cleaned? Should I disassemble mag tube, receiver barrel etc. each time I shoot it? If I throw a couple of slugs down range to sight in dose it require a full cleaning? I saw some schmuts on the surface of chamber and used a Hops brass brush on it. A pia. After reading on this sight I now know it was probably melted plastic from shell casing. I did not take down the gun, just sprayed down bore, passed brush 3-4 times then cotton swab. Looks clean now and I wiped down all exterior surfaces.
WHERE WAS I WEAK??? This is my first shotgun and as u know a major investment so I want to keep it right.
Roufus
Member StrangerDanger here has posted several times that, as an experiment, he once went like 15,000 rounds with one of his M4's without cleaning it, other than squirting the bolt and receiver down with CLP or the like, and never experienced a problem.
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3 minutes ago, MrMilitaryPolice said:
922r is overrated
I don't know about overrated but, yeah, it's just another stupid law written by imbeciles who likely know zero about weapons, designed for nothing other than to punish law abiding gun owners into submission.
That said though, I would not want to be caught in that trap.
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If you are talking about a whole bunch of customization just for the sake of customizing, I wouldn't pay anything for that.
Only because IMO, parts that many people so often replace don't really gain anything and are superfluous bling. But that is just my opinion.
It's quite easy to make an M4 922R compliant. The degree of easy depends on which parts you change out. A US made 7 round tube and follower is 2 parts and US made hand guards makes 3. Done. But I would go with OEM hand guards stippled by Tango Arms and use the A&S trigger housing for #3. And as long as you have a cheap heat gun, this example of a conversion can be done in less than a hour.
If you have a collapsable stock model, you need to replace 4 parts to comply instead of the 3 that would be necessary in your example above.
If you want to go deeper and change the trigger housing and associated parts, that too can be easily done with a few basic gunsmithing tools, such as snap ring pliers, punches, and a plastic bench block.
Again, that conversion can be done in an hour or less. I do everything I can to do my own work rather than risk shipping an expensive firearm back and forth.
So, 2 hours of gunsmithing + parts=?
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14 hours ago, RetardStrength said:
Has anyone purchased one of these, and how does it compare to the H20 cerakote finish? I've placed an order for one but I'm debating whether I should go with an NP3 coated steel tube from FFT instead. Any input is appreciated.
My H2O is an original NP3 plated model. This is it with the CC muted titanium tube. Initially, I was a bit disappointed with the match but I really don't mind it anymore.
Also, the tube that was replaced on my gun was a FFT NP3 7 round steel tube which was a perfect match to the gun but the CC titanium tube is a superior product.
Scroll down in this thread for my pics;
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10 hours ago, ZarZ said:
Well there is the patterning of shot as Morton stated. There is also smoother recoil since a longer more tapered forcing cone the shot doesn't slam into it as hard, less recoil and shot deformity. I did find this article about an hour ago that seems to hint that Benellis sound as if its a big improvement.
Shotgun Test: How an Altered Forcing Cone Can Improve Pellet Patterns (outdoorlife.com)That is where I am confused. I thought that no matter what the forcing cone does at the beginning of the loads travel, where it exits the barrel at the choke end would be the final determination of the loads form.
I guess I'm wrong?
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5 hours ago, ZarZ said:
Has anyone had the forcing cone lengthened on an M4? Not sure if these shotguns benefit from it as much as my Mossbergs did.
Just curious....benefit how?
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That guy on the hide says that the barrel ring is aluminum. Is it? I never examined it closely but I always thought it was steel.
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Federal flight control 00 buck and Federal LE full power Truball, and low recoil (1300 fps) slugs with an IC choke is what I have used for years. Tight pattern with buck and very accurate with slugs.
Trouble is, it's extremely hard to find these days.
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16 minutes ago, Sukhoi_fan said:
Another thing to consider is that with an NFA item you consent to Uncle Fudd showing up at your crib 24/7/365 demanding to take a look at your stuff.
So in a broad sense you're giving up your 4th amendment rights. No thank you.
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Looks like an effort to turn a shot shell into a Claymore.
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Iv'e never shot anything but slugs and 00 buck from my M4, both full power loads and LE reduced recoil shells. I think that the recoil is already so soft with the M4, especially if you've got a limbsaver pad in place, that on balance, adding a few inches to the length of the gun as a home defense tool, is not worth the gain one might perceive from the MB.
Recoil from the M4 is nowhere near as severe as a pump SG. JMO.
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Gorlami........GORLAMI...now where have I heard that name....is that you Brad Pitt?
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Sounds liken of those shipments that starts out at UPS and then is handed off to USPS for final delivery. I have had many shipments of things from various vendors that go that way.
I'd give it a couple more days to catch up in the system where it will be updated no doubt.
Botach IMO is OK. Never had an issue with them but sometimes they are a little slow when they post a tracking# and when the item is actually picked up.
I wouldn't worry.
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Just want to publicly say thanks to Unobtanium for the trigger group I bought from him in this thread.
I received it today and it is perfect and new just as he described it. I knew that it would be from my impression of him during the last several years on this forum, is that he is a person who is very meticulous about his firearms.
He also sent it out to me without first receiving the funds I sent him.
Thank you, sir!
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I will take this. PM sent.
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I think these two guys covered everything to the nth degree for you. However, I would add just one caveat.....I would not buy the gun sight unseen, like from GB or other online dealer that use a generic photo of a Benelli M4, because you very well might get one of Benelli's "COVID BLUE" receivers (as I call them) as has happened to several forum members here.
Some have liked the blue colored receivers but, some have also hated it. Benelli gave a disingenuous excuse, (as far as I am concerned) as to why the change occurred from a normal parkerized type finish to a somewhat electric blue finish that has been on their M4 receivers as of late.
Take a look around here for what the blue ones look like to see if you will like it or not.
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Are the threads on SOCOM GUY's tubes left in the white or are are they coated with whatever finish?
Never mind...I just saw a closeup in the above pics and the threads seem to be finished.
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5 hours ago, BamBam said:
Easy fix as Stranger pointed out, nonetheless poor inspection-oversight by Benelli for a $2K+ Shotgun. If unnoticed over time that little bur will likely break off during cycling and could cause further issue/damage. Obviously COVID broadly impacts every company’s abilities vs. production catch up vs. quality control (and now Italy is another COVID lock down). Come on Benelli inspect closely this is your reputation!!
Yeah, LOL...I would put this in the same category as their new "Covid blue" receivers.
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Check....it's a thoughtful design in that you really would never have to remove it once installed, unless you wanted to swap out for a new flashlight. The old AVA light mount was the same way except that it attached to the barrel ring behind where the IWC mount does.
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40 minutes ago, fatbiker852 said:
Any concern tightening the weapon light mount to the carbon tube? Could the tube be crushed or damaged from this mount? Did you install a rubber shim under the mount to avoid damaging the carbon fiber?
The IWC light mount clamps onto the the steel barrel ring where the sling plate used to reside, not onto the mag tubes.
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Options for Mounting Weapon Light on M-1014
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The IWC mount has QD cups on both sides for QD sling swivels for either a righty or leftie shooter. Take a look at the above pictures of it.