xamoel Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 good evening, i am looking for compensators for the M4, i heard benelli offered a compensator themself? i just couldn't seem to find it on the homepage. could i use one with slugs as well as with normal ammunition or would that ruin it quickly? thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas skeeter Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 every time i see your site name, it keeps reminding me of the word, CAMELTOE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookster Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 good evening, i am looking for compensators for the M4, i heard benelli offered a compensator themself? i just couldn't seem to find it on the homepage. could i use one with slugs as well as with normal ammunition or would that ruin it quickly? thanks in advance Kip will hopefully have his out soon. Here's what they'll look like: http://photos.carriercomp.com/GalleryFilmstrip.aspx?gallery=210213 Later, Hookster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xamoel Posted November 22, 2009 Author Share Posted November 22, 2009 lol, its actually leomax reversed, which is a combination of 2 german names. never thought of cameltoe, but i see the similarities. kips' looks quite a lot like the original benelli one, don't you think? i just wondered why one would need a comp for door-breaching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas skeeter Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 lol, its actually leomax reversed, which is a combination of 2 german names. never thought of cameltoe, but i see the similarities. kips' looks quite a lot like the original benelli one, don't you think? i just wondered why one would need a comp for door-breaching? well why does someone who's not an LEO or any type job of that nature need anything tactical?? cause its cool!! think about it, every avg joe shmo gun nut, wants ALL the tactical stuff any military, leo,cia etc has on their weapons!!! aint gonna lie, I DO!! i dont shoot at people for a living. im a refrigeration service technician. but maybe some day ill have to shoot at a disgruntled refrigerator!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xamoel Posted November 22, 2009 Author Share Posted November 22, 2009 (edited) i agree 100%, i love the tactical stuff too, even though i'm never gonna use ist! but hey, it's a great hobby! the question was just if someone knows how the door-breeching with shotguns works? i mean the rams are self-explanatory, but why use a shotgun to knock down a door? aren't there better ways? Edited November 22, 2009 by xamoel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookster Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 Hey Xamoel, Just scroll down to the "ballistic breach" section. http://www.cqb-team.com/Breaching.html Enjoy, Hookster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioM4 Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 My understanding is the muzzle attachment is optional and I think some LEO standards are moving away from it. It just helps establish the standoff distance from the door. The ammo is much more important. There are special rounds used for breaching doors. They are compressed, powdered metal. This is to reduce the risk of ricochet and over penetration of the door. You can use normal buckshot to breach a door but I don't know if I'd try it. I don't see much value to it for the lone gunman. I don't want to have special breaching rounds loaded in my gun and then suddenly find myself wishing for buckshot or slugs. If you watch the videos, usually one guy breaches the door and one of his buddies is covering him and ready to enter. I see more value in it as a flash suppressor and muzzle brake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zee10103 Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I just finished a Hoshizaki Freeze up @ A BK. Interesting, Texas Steeter we are in the same line of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas skeeter Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I just finished a Hoshizaki Freeze up @ A BK. Interesting, Texas Steeter we are in the same line of work. damn that scares me ZEE!! that means soon im gonna have to take some sort of pills to keep my sanity as you do!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookster Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 This explains a lot. Too many direct hits off the ol' freon tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas skeeter Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 This explains a lot. Too many direct hits off the ol' freon tank damn hooksta, thats no joke!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xamoel Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 ... I see more value in it as a flash suppressor and muzzle brake. that's also my main reason for wanting one, besides from it looking good on the gun can any available muzzle brake be threaded onto the benelli extended choke tube? if so, do you guys know some manufacturers? brownells came up with only 1 brake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoAtrox Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 The ammo is much more important. There are special rounds used for breaching doors. They are compressed, powdered metal. This is to reduce the risk of ricochet and over penetration of the door. ... I don't want to have special breaching rounds loaded in my gun and then suddenly find myself wishing for buckshot or slugs. Hey, don't knock the breaching rounds. An unarmored guy who gets hit with one of those is just as dead as one who gets hit with a slug or buckshot. An armored guy will get knocked down just the same as well (although his recovery time will be faster with breacher or buck than it would be with a slug). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xamoel Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 i found this choke from trulock: http://www.trulockchokes.com/cgi-bin/eShop/index.cgi?page=photos_descriptions.htm&cart_id=1663257.69524 looks pretty nice i think. will it also act as flash suppressor and recoil-reducer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zee10103 Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 No way, I reclaim. Refrigerant and dry nitrogen just depletes the atmosphere. I tell you. Once I had a cock roach in my pressure suite. All I could hope was it did not enter my ear canal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas skeeter Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 No way, I reclaim. Refrigerant and dry nitrogen just depletes the atmosphere. I tell you. Once I had a cock roach in my pressure suite. All I could hope was it did not enter my ear canal. SH-T ZEE, im not even going to start with the NAM stories!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xamoel Posted November 26, 2009 Author Share Posted November 26, 2009 just one quick question: whats the difference between the m4 1014 and 1107? and what version will i get when i buy a new one? the 1107? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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