Unobtanium Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 ...and this is why you should pattern your shotguns. It leads to optimal results. I did not have large poster-board with me today, but from previous experience this setup will keep 80-100% on a 22x28" poster at 45 yards. Get out there. Pattern your stuff. Don't be another idiot who just goes and buys a choke, some buck, and thinks they can get results like this just because you have good ammo, a good choke, and a good shotgun. Take the time to figure out what WORKS. (Sighted for slugs at @50 yards, hits 2" high at 25 w/buckshot.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookster Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Get out there. Pattern your stuff. Don't be another idiot who just goes and buys a choke, some buck, and thinks they can get results like this just because you have good ammo, a good choke, and a good shotgun. Take the time to figure out what WORKS. Good Advice Unobtanium! No sense looking like an idiot! Throwing out a bunch of lead and not hitting anything is just sad...... Hey! What's wrong with my shotgun! Later, Hookster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMotorsports Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Good Advice Unobtanium! No sense looking like an idiot! Throwing out a bunch of lead and not hitting anything is just sad...... Hey! What's wrong with my shotgun! Later, Hookster NO WONDER they laugh at me at the trap club! I may not hit anything but I look cool! Patterning is fun. I usually buy a box of whatever ammo I am going to use just for patterning with different chokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted May 24, 2010 Author Share Posted May 24, 2010 (edited) NO WONDER they laugh at me at the trap club! I may not hit anything but I look cool! Patterning is fun. I usually buy a box of whatever ammo I am going to use just for patterning with different chokes. To get the above results, I purchased many types/sizes of buckshot and chokes and mixed/matched all the combo's until I found the winner. I tried Rem 00 2.75 9 pellet Rem 00 Supertac 8-pellet Win-lite 00 9-pellet Federal Flite Control Rem 3" 000 Rem 2.75" 000 Winchester Super X 00 2.75" Remington 0 2.75 Remington 2.75" #4 Remington 3" #4 Winchester 3" 000 Federal 2.75" 000 Probably a few others. I tried: Briley IC/MOD/IMOD/Full Kick's Buckkicker chokes in all constrictions Primos Dead-Deer choke Some would throw good patterns at 20 yards, but totally fall apart at 30-45 yards. It took a lot of work to find a combo that would throw a pattern that was tight, even, and expanded in a linear instead of exponential fashion with distance. You will notice that the shot seems "strung" a little-bit up/down. My other M4's did this as well. I think it has to do with the fact that before the charge exits the barrel, the weapon has already recoiled over 1/2" The shot is exiting the muzzle during recoil. Ergo, it is going to have a SLIGHT verticle stringing. Just my experience and analysis. Edited May 24, 2010 by Unobtanium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMotorsports Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 To get the above results, I purchased many types/sizes of buckshot and chokes and mixed/matched all the combo's until I found the winner. I tried Rem 00 2.75 9 pellet Rem 00 Supertac 8-pellet Win-lite 00 9-pellet Federal Flite Control Rem 3" 000 Rem 2.75" 000 Winchester Super X 00 2.75" Remington 0 2.75 Remington 2.75" #4 Remington 3" #4 Winchester 3" 000 Federal 2.75" 000 Probably a few others. I tried: Briley IC/MOD/IMOD/Full Kick's Buckkicker chokes in all constrictions Primos Dead-Deer choke Some would throw good patterns at 20 yards, but totally fall apart at 30-45 yards. It took a lot of work to find a combo that would throw a pattern that was tight, even, and expanded in a linear instead of exponential fashion with distance. You will notice that the shot seems "strung" a little-bit up/down. My other M4's did this as well. I think it has to do with the fact that before the charge exits the barrel, the weapon has already recoiled over 1/2" The shot is exiting the muzzle during recoil. Ergo, it is going to have a SLIGHT verticle stringing. Just my experience and analysis. Thats some awesome data. I wish I had the bank to be able to do that myself. Do you really think the recoil makes that much of a difference when all those pellets are leaving the barrel so close together? I wouldn't think it makes that much of a difference in the POI for the whole shot string. Your probably right, I'm just thinking out loud here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted May 24, 2010 Author Share Posted May 24, 2010 Thats some awesome data. I wish I had the bank to be able to do that myself. Do you really think the recoil makes that much of a difference when all those pellets are leaving the barrel so close together? I wouldn't think it makes that much of a difference in the POI for the whole shot string. Your probably right, I'm just thinking out loud here. It's the only thing I can think of. All 3 of my M4's have done this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezarf Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I'd have to say you are on track (but I am no pro ) I can't think of any other reason it would string out up and down. I have even seen the highly reguarded VanComp's only spread up and down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobtanium Posted May 24, 2010 Author Share Posted May 24, 2010 I'd have to say you are on track (but I am no pro ) I can't think of any other reason it would string out up and down. I have even seen the highly reguarded VanComp's only spread up and down. Consider. IF you fail to follow-through with a swing, you will miss the clay/bird. Why then should movement under recoil (we know for a fact the weapon recoils while the shot is leaving the bore) not also have a very minor effect on pattern? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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