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I've been out of the loop for half a decade or so, and I get that this may be an intellectually lazy path vs. scouring this forum etc. but, I had a few questions I hope are easily addressed without all of that. Specifically, as relates to this model: https://www.benellile.com/shotguns/m4-tactical-shotguns?eid=248 1) Has the operating system changed? I mean anything...different piston design, heat treat, spring rates in the piston caps, ANYTHING? 2) Is this rail field strippable pistons and so forth in tact, or are gymnastics required? 3) How is QA/QC at Benelli as of late? 4) I can tell the stock and rail are different from my current Benelli M4, what other differences does this model have, if any? 5) Did they go back to metal trigger guards? That one looks kindof thin, like the metal ones? Thanks!

Please explain this to me like I'm stupid: 1) What are those springs? I presume to retain tension so it's not floppy? This tells me you can mount lights, but not lasers, correct? 2) I am presuming this strips by removing the barrel retention nut, then sliding the barrel out, pistons and all, no muss no fuss? 3) when installed, does the barrel touch the rail, or just the receiver/front barrel hanger? 4) Does this "drop in" for older models without modification, and if not, what needs changed?

Run oem in your entry, and carrier comp in a 7 round tube.

I agree, but the m4 is where it's at for me, until something better comes along. Some of the new 5.56 stuff is really nasty, as well, terminally. The 62gr Dual Performance from Black Hills is up for evaluation for me this deer season. Last year mk318 mod 0 was the top performer terminally, but groups 2.5moa while the dual is running 1.6-1.8 for me. 10 shots at 100. Also, I love black hills qc.

I integrate everything. I need vis and ir active and passive systems, thermal, etc to all play well with each other. That is where my carbine shines, and where the gauge needs to continue to evolve.

No, but those are pretty hot.

My slightly blue looking m4 Entry will not run le13300 reliably. My older one, will. Both now and when nib. I borescoped them and nothing looks different about the ports internally, although spring pressure in the caps may be different?

This is a post designed to help people who are considering a firearm that fits this genre. Self defense/combative. I remember my first Benelli like it was yesterday. Back in the late 2000s, I snagged an 11707. Immediately I bought an OEM mag tube from Numrich and installed it. I was murdering milk jugs at 100m with it with slugs, and mulching brush with buck and bird. This was back when the CB05(?) stuff was around. 12 copper plated 00 pellets at 1290fps from 2.75" shells. The weapon would malunfunion near the end of each tube. I figured it was a spring issue. Dropped in an m1s90 police spec spring. Issue ceased. Then came my desire to seriously use the gun. I needed a light. There was just no way to affix one, really. The surefire handguard either wasn't out, didn't fit the barrel flange of the 11707 models, or whatever, and LED lights were in their infancy, with Malkoff being the only real solution on a modded 6P. Begrudgingly, I left the platform and bought an ar15. I could put a light on it. Optics were also more available, as I remember, we were stuck with the LaRue shredding split rail and minimal options other than LaRue or SWAN back then. I destroyed a Pride Fowled rds mount like that. Then Kip Carrier entered the scene. Rails, full 1913. Ti mag tubes. Proper springs. Still no great light mounts. Then AVA tactical introduced a viable solution. As did Fab Defense (?) with their wonky little 1913 section on the sling groove ring. Things really hit full stride with thr IWC mounts. Scalarworks SYNC optic mounts. I played with the benelli m4 off and on over the last roughly 1.5 decades, but only around the late 20-teens did it truly become a viable, cohesive weapon system, and I absolutely love my m4 Entry gun. Time marches on, though, and MFALs, thermal, nvds, etc have become a thing. Once again, I have moved back to the ar15 carbine platform. I can mount my mfal, my light, an lpvo, a piggyback nvd compatible rds, etc. I am excited for the day when we integrate this stuff into the gauge. I have already tried with a Surefire xvl2irc on an IWC light mount 1913 section, it just didn't pan out.

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Its a clone piece is all, imo

I've never had an issue with them.

As far as I know, it was the same as the early civvie ones. Black anodize with a red polymer insert.

Replied. I am sorry for the delay, as the forum was down.

I'm snotty about idiot marks, and the IWC will mar the gun less than shooting 10 rounds, literally.

IWC mount sold per above.

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I typically will tighten that little nut right up until the point that the wrench begins to ever so slightly move the metal on the corners. I don't know the torque value for this, and it's very much a "feel" type thing. "Snug". YMMV, proceed with caution.

The m2 is an excellent weapon.

https://www.midwestgunworks.com/page/mgwi/prod/70078

Every now and then you see the PG only for sale at various retailers.

I had a couple of questions: 1) Will the M600IB head in OEM format fit the M4 Benelli using the supplied scout body, and the IWC mount? If it will not, will it fit using the IWC mount and the Backbone body?

I just use Slip2000 EWL, a boresnake, a tornado brush, a toothbrush, and microfiber cloths. This pretty much handles it.