TacCoyote Posted July 6 Posted July 6 Hello all, I am on the quest to find an HK import for a Benelli M4. How common are they and what kind of premium do they command? I have an HK Imported M1S90 and he wants a younger brother to play with. Thanks! Quote
bambihunter Posted Wednesday at 01:27 PM Posted Wednesday at 01:27 PM To my knowledge they don't exist. The M4 was derived from the M1014 which was designed to comply with the gas operated requirement of the USMC shotgun contest. That gas operated design utilized Benelli's ARGO which, in a different form, was also used in their short lived auto loading rifles. If memory serves, were around the time of HK imports. Welcome to the site. As far as the M4, I am fairly sure you'll have to settle for a much younger brother to your M1. However, in spite of some of us like myself being partial to the Benelli Inertia action, the M4's do fit into the collection nicely. If you are looking for a rare HK variant for your collection, consider an M3, it's a semi-auto/pump combo gun. They re-released it recently too though the original has a rare folding stock version that I am partial to. If you decide you want a rare M4, the NP3 model 11711 is likely the rarest of that model. M3T Folders: 2 Quote
TacCoyote Posted Wednesday at 04:08 PM Author Posted Wednesday at 04:08 PM I found this picture of one so I was hoping it was a thing in the commercial market. Quote
Sukhoi_fan Posted Thursday at 12:11 AM Posted Thursday at 12:11 AM Benelli ended their importation relationship with H&K in 1997 and the M1014/M4 was introduced in 1998, so there are no H&K stamped M1014s or M4s. 1 1 Quote
TacCoyote Posted Thursday at 12:12 AM Author Posted Thursday at 12:12 AM Just now, Sukhoi_fan said: Benelli ended their importation relationship with H&K in 1997 and the M1014/M4 was introduced in 1998, so there are no H&K stamped M1014s or M4s. Did you see the picture I attached? Clearly your statement is false. 1 Quote
TacCoyote Posted 17 hours ago Author Posted 17 hours ago On 7/8/2026 at 6:11 PM, Sukhoi_fan said: Benelli ended their importation relationship with H&K in 1997 and the M1014/M4 was introduced in 1998, so there are no H&K stamped M1014s or M4s. Hey look I found more M1014's that don't exist according to you. 1 Quote
MrMilitaryPolice Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 13 hours ago, TacCoyote said: Hey look I found more M1014's that don't exist according to you. You come here less than a week and already acting like a dick. If i did know where one was, i would'nt tell you. Quote
TacCoyote Posted 3 hours ago Author Posted 3 hours ago I wasn’t a dick until a mod was a dick to me and posted something and then deleted it like it didn’t happen. 1 Quote
Sukhoi_fan Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago There's no context to that photo. It appears to be USGI inventory. No individual has that many M4s and they certainly wouldn't be treating like that if someone even did have that many, nor would a dealer treat his inventory like that. Quote
TacCoyote Posted 3 hours ago Author Posted 3 hours ago They are USMC M1014s imported by both H&K and Benelli USA. Quote
Sukhoi_fan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 52 minutes ago, TacCoyote said: I wasn’t a dick until a mod was a dick to me and posted something and then deleted it like it didn’t happen. From the research I did H&K and Benelli ended their relationship to import into the USA in 1997 or 1998, however research indicates that H&K was involved with the military procurement contract for the M4 in 1999. According to research the DoD didn't release specs for the M4/M1014 until May of 1998 and Benelli submitted examples of their newly designed M4 to the DoD in August of 1998 (pretty short development time, may have already been in the works). There is nothing to indicate that H&K was involved in the importation of M4s beyond 1999. There's absolutely nothing that I find that any of the H&K military contract M4s ended up on 4473s. Perhaps you can point to some record of this. A photo of a stack of obvious USGI Benelli M4s without any context whatsoever is meaningless. What's your point??? Quote
TacCoyote Posted 2 hours ago Author Posted 2 hours ago My point is that HK imported Benelli M1014s, I never once said they were on the civilian side. I came here and asked if there were any M4s imported by HK on the civilian side. And then you said that M1014s were never imported by HK, which is false. You then had a snarky comment to me that you then deleted. Quote
Sukhoi_fan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 44 minutes ago, TacCoyote said: They are USMC M1014s imported by both H&K and Benelli USA. Granted that H&K was originally involved with the DoD procurement contract in 1999. Kindly show us where any USGI Benelli M4s imported in 1999 under the DoD procurement contract with H&K that have ended up in private ownership. Quote
Sukhoi_fan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago On 7/6/2026 at 3:25 PM, TacCoyote said: Hello all, I am on the quest to find an HK import for a Benelli M4. How common are they and what kind of premium do they command? I have an HK Imported M1S90 and he wants a younger brother to play with. Thanks! 1 hour ago, TacCoyote said: My point is that HK imported Benelli M1014s, I never once said they were on the civilian side. I came here and asked if there were any M4s imported by HK on the civilian side. And then you said that M1014s were never imported by HK, which is false. You then had a snarky comment to me that you then deleted. My initial research indicated that H&K and Benelli ended their relationship to import Benelli products into the USA in 1997-1998 timeframe. Digging deeper I saw that H&K was involved in the military contract to import the new Benelli M4 in 1999, which is why I deleted that post as I had discovered it was incorrect after further research. There's nothing to indicate that any USGI contracted Benelli M4s/M1014s have ended up in civilian hands. In your OP you were inquiring where to find "an HK import for a Benelli M4" as if there's any USGI surplus Benelli/H&K imports (1999 DoD contract) "on the civilian side". Then you post "I never once said (the 1999 military procurement contracted Benelli M4s imported by H&K) were on the civilian side." No you did not, but you implied that. I'd love to see any proof at all that there are any surplus USGI Benelli/H&K import M4s which ended up on a Form 4473. So kindly show us where and how the 1999 Benelli M4s imported by H&K have been made available to civilians as surplus. The 1999 DoD procurement for Benelli M4s was for Benelli M4s with full length magazines and C stocks. The ban on more than five round magazines and C stocks (not folding stocks) on imported shotguns intended for civilian sales goes back to the gungrabber era, 1989-1994. Sales of the unneutered Benelli M4s with FL magazines and C stocks to us lowly civilians is generally prohibited (especially surplus sales by .gov or .mil). I'd love to see where one ended up in civilian hands, those things do occasionally happen. Quote
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