Novaking

It sound like you think we will wait until we see the intruder before we load the shotgun. NOT true. Yes if I saw someone with a gun in my house they better have a badge around the barrel or see yah. But we are talking about the second we here the sound of someone in your house.

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Sounds good. I don't think you would fight off a snail anyway.

Please read my post again Ok, I never called you Rambo. Amost everyone here as a good idea on this forum. Thats why I'm here. I get way more info than I give which is why I'm here in the first place. There is never any harm done here and I hope the same for you. Yes, your right, "racking" the shotgun WILL NOT work every time. I didn't say it would. Neither will my alarm. I never said YOU engage anything. The ''engaging" the enemy refurs to your Military idea which I didn't understand. novaking

P.S. My view of protecting my family is keeping them out of harms way. If thats means hiding and waiting for the bad guys to leave. I've done my job. If that means pulling the trigger. Done job to.

I think I've said that in another post. I'm not going to look for it, but I think I said "I would do anything to protect my family. " First, don't let them in my house. (alarm, dogs (barking), double dead bolt. Second, scare them away. ( alarm, dogs "racking" of a shotgun) Last, and only last, pull the trigger. If I've haven't said this,(I think I have) in this thread, Then now I have. Novaking

I'm not in the military. Besides Rambo, I've never heard of a one man Military. When is the last time you saw your military defending themselfs on there own ground. In home defence you don't "engage" the enemy. I'm not a cop. I also don't know a lot of cops that can run period. But if they could I don't think they would go into a dark house with out back up. So I don't know what you mean. The only only tactics I have is to get them out of my house. Going after someone even in your own home is a bad idea. waiting for them to come to you is the best thing to do. If you read all my post on this thread, you would read that it will take a lot for a person or people to get to me and my family. But it goes both ways. It takes a lot for me to get to them to. I don't want to know the type of thread I'm facing. Just get out of my house! is all I want. If they want to come after me. Come and get it. If they don't better for me. Maybe I will keep my alarm off and have my dog put down. I don't want to scare the bad guys away before I "Rambo" gets a hold of them. Got to go. My M60 needs cleaned. Novaking

cool, have fun with it.

If you say so.

What if your wrong, and go to jail. what will your wife and kids do then. shooting someone doesn't keep them out of danger.

o yeah I fogot about bailing wire. Add ten more bucks if you want bailing wire.

hmmm, depends on the crop your talking about. Corn, Yes. sugar cain why not.

have fun with your new nova. thoughs h20 are cool looking. For what reason did you go with the H20? Novaking

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I trap shoot with one of my Novas. Am I the best with it. NO. I shoot in the low 20's at the 16 yard and 20> as a move back. If I shoot it all the time, I could do better. But, I will shoot a round of trap, then a round of skeet with a different gun. The biggest thing is to know where the gun shoots and patterns. Good luck and have a blast. Novaking

I guess a big luck to all. One day this will happen to one of us. Some of us will be happy the person left before we even saw them. Some of us will see them, hold them up and the person will go to jail. And last some of you will be going to jail. I'm not scared to pull the trigger. I'm scare to lose my family. I will do whatever it takes to take care of my family. I hope you all think the same. Be safe to all. Novaking

I will not know exactly what is going to happen. Maybe the person that breaks into your house knows you have a dogs like that. Maybe they have a plan for that. I am not alway close to a gun. And if it were as easy as you just said it, noone would have a problem in the first place. The problem is its not that easy. You will have your hands between your legs while the person is kicking in your door. People on drugs and have guns don't care if you have a big dog. A .357 will do the same to the dog as it would to you. You do have to have a plan. I think being cocky will just get you killed.

hmmmm, the the barrel length question. Your going to get a lot of answers on this one. It all boils down to what you like. I shoot 28'' with skeet. 26'' in fine. 30'',24'' 32'', what ever. The longer the barrel, the more "natural" the swing will be. I think your longest shot is like 17 yards. Some people say a longer barrel helps with the pattern. People also say it doesn't. With the longer barrel you will have a long sight picture which helps you aline your eye to the front of the barrel better. If you have a cool place to shoot skeet like I do, than all the ''big time'' skeet shooter will let you try there guns to get an idea what you want. I think your biggest problem is not going to be the barrel length or chokes or gauge, its the pump gun. Shooting skeet with a pump gun in fun, but it doesn't help you out at all. If you have a 500.00 bucks to spend, think about getting a ''cheaper'' auto or o/u. There are alot of great guns out there that will help you and the kids get better faster. ''Cheap autos and O/U's: remington 1100 remington 1187 s&w 1020 charles daly escort guns remington spr 453 remington spr 310 O/U stoger O/U mossberg silver O/U Check them out. I know you said a pump but your shorting yourself when shooting skeet.

no surprise birthday for you!!!

I got nothing, You win for now.

I knew you would find something. Maybe after of beach your wife , We can start back with the post at hand. Novaking

I will give you a +1 on the nova and the bps. I own a 20 gauge nova a love it. Zero problems. Great upland gun. I don't own a BPS but I have shot one for a few years until I bought the Nova. Again great gun. Have you compared prices? How many chokes come with the gun? brass bead or high-viz sight? Ether way you won't go wrong. O, P.S. the BPS ejects shell out of the bottom.

I just forgot. More inventory you might take: My son's gerbal my tube socks (or maybe ankle socks) vaseline

Thanks Euromutt, Everything you said, but I will add at the end of the day, I DIDN'T KILL SOMEONE. which is the goal. i would hate to kill a homeless man that broke into my house just to get some food, he is buttering some bread with a knife, I see the knife and pull the tigger. ( I know this sounds stupid). Now, same thing, but I "rack" my gun, he hears it, and all I'm out is a peanut butter and jelly. Can it be worst, YES. Can you asume worst. YES!! To get to me, my wife, and my kids, you will have to get though something,(outside door,window) whatever, two stair gates, (one you can't step over and as a bell on it.) and two locked doors. If the bad guy can get though that without me or my wife hearing it, I guess I'm screwed. But, I think I will have time to "rack" the action to start a fight. The last thing I would want to do. Novaking

I'm not to worried. You'll just take all my wifes clothes. Whats your favorite color? I'll lay a skirt out for you. P.S. I can't promise the same.