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Since the thread is Home Defense, a critical factor is if you have anyone in the home with you (kids) and if you have any close neighbors. IMO slugs have no place in a HD scenario if you have anyone else in your house. The penetration potential is obvious and potentially tragic. There's no reason that I can think of that would require 20 yard shots in a home.

Hey you have excellent taste in weapons...an M4 and a P220. Yes, I have a 226 and it is my all-time favorite pistol...if I didn't have a 226 I'd have a 220...IMO the best .45 ever made. Enjoy your guns...and of course bygones are bygones. Best to you.

Wow that is one bizarre post. Odd that you should tell him to let it go. I do hope you feel better getting that off your chest. Now maybe you can let it go.

Maybe it would work if you pushed in with a pen tip as I think someone else has suggested. Try not to let it bother you so much. Cycling rounds through is easy when performed safely. Please just be safe. have a good day.

So sad that there are so many false prophets out there profiting (wow is that ever a play on words) from other peoples' fear. I do believe that there will be a rapture and a tribulation period. I just don't believe it's at 6:00PM today. The silver lining in this is that hopefully it will lead to folks thinking about and examining their own personal relationship with God. I hope so.

Good of you to invite your friends' kids...maybe someday they'll come out with you...thank God Almighty that my kids enjoy hitting the range...in fact took one of the boys with me to Blackwater for a pistol course last year...what a terrific time...when you're at the range you're not playing video games...no wonder so many kids are fat and out of shape these days.

SgtCathy, I know what you mean. You're retired LE, I've been a gun enthusiast for over 30 years. Sometimes I worry about the kids here that are products of the Age of Nint endo.

If you insist. Firstof all and most importantly, if you are not absolutely, totally, 100% certainthat you can unload your weapon SAFELY using that method, do not, I repeat: DO NOT USE THAT METHOD. Now,let’s reason together a little here. Let’sstart with some logic: if Benelli did not want you to have that option forunloading your gun, they would not have included (A) instructions for how to do it, and (B) whereto find a second reference to it in THEIR MANUAL. Youare troubled by the fact that in the second instance they use the word ‘WARNING’. Did it occur to you that this might bebecause they were concerned that people like you that cusses and swears becauseyou can’t operate a lever might just cause a negligent discharge? Furthermore,they use the word ‘Warning’ for such simple instructions as in how to assembleyour gun. See page 10 under the heading ‘Assembly (from packaged gun)’: It appears that Benelli anticipated that somepeople wouldn’t be able to properly assemble their gun. Here’s another example: Using your indecipherable logic, you shouldn’t insert a new cartridge to fill the magazine completely because of the‘warning’. After reading your post, and that of BigHat (who apparently can’t unload his either), I think both of you shouldhave a gunsmith unload your guns for you, or better yet, maybe you shouldn’town a gun at all. I worry about you. If you disagree, why not just call Benelli and complain about their defective engineering. I’m sure they’d love to hear about your ‘issue’. Hopefully they’ll inform the Marine Corps too (because of your reading comprehension issue, I suppose I should explain that that’s called irony). You insisted, so there you go. I anticipate your indignant reply with much disinterest.

Posted some thoughts, then decided that some things are better left unsaid. Good luck with your lever issue.

First, the lever is not designed to be loose, it's designed to be tight. If it was looser people would complain that it wasn't robust enough. Second, the Benelli manual recommends cycling as an option for unloading. Third, I have no idea why some of you seem to be so troubled by this. Are you really that stressed out by having to just cycle your gun a few times? Reminder: this is a hard-duty, combat shotgun. It's not a designer engraved over-under with gold scrollwork that gets damaged just by breathing on it. Sometimes I just don't understand the petty issues raised here.

Thought you folks might like this.

Boresnakes make life so much easier. What a terrific product. You're shooting brass-plated buckshot through your barrel...no worries with the brushes. Good luck.

I think he has stated that he is dyslexic and dysgraphic. That isn't a reflection of intelligence, it's a disorder of the brain. He can't help that. Having treated patients over the past 3 decades that have suffered from similar problems, I wouldn't be as quick as you to jump to medical conclusions, unless you are a healthcare provider. It's one thing to spell words incorrectly due to laziness, it's another thing altogether to have a well-recognized cognitive deficit beyond your control.

d, Good for you bud...I admire folks that can do things, not just talk about things. Thank you for smacking down the ninny generation-types in your last post, which was civil despite how the little boys acted towards you. Best to you.

I have one with the pressure switch. Beautiful shape. PM me with an offer. Thanks.

I'll add one more thought to this...if your gun DOES shoot the light load stuff, you might have a slightly weaker spring from the factory that may subject your gun to more battering when you shoot the kinds of loads the M4 was intended to shoot. Just sayin.

If you buy a tank, you have to run diesel through it and you have to run it hard. You cannot expect a tank to tolerate regular 87 gasoline and dainty city traffic commutes. If you buy a gun (M4) intended to shoot heavy loads, you should not be surprised to find that it doesn't reliably cycle birdshot. This has been the case WAYYYYY....back to the M1S90. Of course there are exceptions, but they are just that...exceptions. There is no surprise that a gun designed for heavy loads struggles to cycle English Gentleman Quail loads. If, as you say, you have to drive 40 miles to a range to run full-on loads, get a different Benelli model or buy a pump.

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I honestly don't know what size, it's the only size they offered when I bought it and I haven't owned an M1S90 for a number of years...I think it made the total capacity 7 rounds. Yes, it is for an M1S90. Price is $110 shipped to CONUS. Thank you.

Oh...when I said 'you' I meant it as a generic 'you' since we're talking about such things on this thread. Sorry...no offense intended.

Here are a couple of threads you might want to take a look at regarding issues with the benelli: http://www.benelliusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17121 http://www.benelliusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13756

drmarc, yes there is no doubt that shotguns can be short-stroked and malfunction...I've seen it numerous times, have probably done it myself. Having shot both semis and pumps however, and being somewhat proficient, I can tell you without hesitation that my semis have failed a magnitude of order more times than my pumps. Most of my semis have been either Benelli M1S90s or M4s. I've also owned numerous Berettas. The only pumps I've owned have been 870s of various types. The thing about semis is that they can be sensitive to ammo, added weight from accessories, amount of lube, whether they're clean or dirty, and even the type of stock (e.g. pistol grips seem to result in more failures than straight stocks due to the absorption of some of the recoil by the hand, with inertia-operated weapons). Pumps are not sensitive whatsoever to ammo or weight, they type of stock on them, and even if the action is dry and filthy it can still virtually always be racked. OTOH, as someone has very correctly noted already, pumps are more prone to operator error due to short stroking. A person that has never fired a gun before can pull the trigger on a semi and in all likelihood it will result in a bang. A person that has never shot a pump before is more likely to short stroke it, thus hearing a click instead of a bang. Therefore for a newbie, I'd recommend a quality semi.

Sold it but didn't fit buyer's gun due to variations in models over the years, so available again. My refund policy is simple: if you want a refund for any reason, you get your purchase price back in full, no questions asked. All I ask is that you let me know within a week of receiving it. No price change, no worries.

Yes Rob, I agree that very knowledgable folks advocate using a light. I used to use one, I don't use one now, but who knows...I may use one in the future. I try not to allow myself to get too attached to any particular sacred cow as far as techniques/tactics go because things are dynamic and I'm willing to change when the facts dictate so. Have a good day.

Have an extended mag tube for an M1S90 available. Includes all parts: Magazine tube Long spring Attaching ring Magazine tube plug Tube/barrel clamp It's factory HK (from back in the day when it was HK/Benelli). Benelli magazine extension kit HK Part #701189. It's either new or like new. Even comes in original bag with installation instruction sheet. Post here if you're interested. I can get some photos to you.