BigHat

I've lived it,you've posed it. Don't compare me to a fictitious E-1. Ethics and values are aspirations until tested. I have been tested , yours are still in your wet dreams.

It will be lame as aways. He's the definition of an empty suit. He's done nothing. He's an Internet Rambo and makes me wanna puke at his faggot machismo.

I'll keep it short and to the point. You're a douche bag and a total poser. You have demonstrated such on every post in every thread here. I've taken dumps that have greater value than you. You don't belong in a conversation on a serious topic, you just don't rate consideration as a serious contributor based on your zero.sh*t level of experience on anything. As far as your opinion of me? Never thought to ponder it. And Tex: Let's be honest, no one has ever used bright and your name in the same sentence. If I were to quote your own words, you're mostly a clueless dumba*s that prefers "stirring the pot" to adding anything of value.

First of all, just want to say I feel the same way about America and the American flag as the most outraged among us. It's just when I read this I thought maybe there's more to this than meets the eye. Just the way the press opted to cover it may mean we don't have a complete recounting of the issue. Call me a press cynic. As we really don't know the issue based on what was published, I'm reluctant to agree it's all about the nation's FLAG he's opted to fly. In fact, I'd bet it's not that at all. There are no federal guidelines germane to this case as best I can tell. It's about the regs. in the community in which he resides on what's appropriate. What is a reasonable sized flag? It's also TOTAL BS to assert it's not about the pole. Its size is THE issue I'd guess. Also TOTALLY stupid and pure conjecture that this community in the outskirts of Richmond, VA is infested with "liberals" that don't care about the country. Silly that it got to this point. Imagine the array of compromises possible. Five neighbors flying flags daily around his house on porch mounted stands would certainly show more respect for the flag in the area than a giant flag pole and a single flag at his house. This could simply be about a 90 year old man's belief that he can wrap himself around his combat record and the flag and violate the tenants of the association that he previously agreed to adhere to. Yes, he's old and probably didn't read the rules, but being ill-informed has never been a legal remedy. Suspect his life at this point revolves around his attainment of the MOH. While I admire his service, I'm sad that he can't take comfort in a large flag flown off of his porch. Again, no one should judge the situation from this half-told story, but it sure seems to me he thinks he can thumb his nose at some rules and at 90 is all about staying engaged in a controversy. Something to do. And UNO: Your assessment is worth jacksh*t to me. When you spend your FIRST day risking your ass for your country you can comment like you have a clue, until then keep jerking to your Rambo DVDs and STFU.

You possibly stopped reading a little too early: SEC. 4. LIMITATIONS. Nothing in this Act shall be considered to permit any display or use that is inconsistent with-- (1) any provision of chapter 1 of title 4, United States Code, or any rule or custom pertaining to the proper display or use of the flag of the United States (as established pursuant to such chapter or any otherwise applicable provision of law); or (2) any reasonable restriction pertaining to the time, place, or manner of displaying the flag of the United States necessary to protect a substantial interest of the condominium association, cooperative association, or residential real estate management association. So I guess this will boil down to what's a "reasonable" size flag and probably more importantly, what's a reasonably sized flag pole in this development. This is what we call "feel good" legislation. If it was based on an incident, it was probably the flying of the flag period and that doesn't appear to be the case here.

Hognutz, I edited that out after you quoted it but before you posted. I agree it was a poor choice of words and easily taken in a way unintended, which is why I clipped it. I couldn't agree more with the common sense aspect that is obviously missing. In 26 years in the USMC I worked with a couple of Vietnam era MOH winners. They were very humble people that sought to fit in. I suspect this has more to do with being 90 and very set in his ways than it does being a MOH winner. The point is the HOA is being vilified in this story that only contains a narrow range of the facts in play. For example, what would the comments be here if the members of said HOA were all disabled veterans?? Long ago I developed a healthy distrust for press and no longer take anything they write or say at face value. I've read too many errors and distortions in accounts of issues I was very well versed in. It was only natural to conclude that it would be foolish to accept their perspective on stories I knew nothing or little about, even when the story seemed to support something I strongly supported, such as patriotic support of our country.

Being able to fly the American flag isn't an entitlement that's special because he's a MOH winner. MOH awardees can't rob banks and last I checked the civil contracts (HOA for one) they engage in are still enforceable. It just makes a better news story to contrast the sacrifice someone has made for the country and being "unable" to fly the flag. Some of you may remember Donald Trump was sued by a HOA for precisely the same thing. The story asserts an irony I don't think exists. Don't be media pawns -- so many elements critical to passing judgement are missing here. To name just a few, 1) How big is the pole and the flag. 2) Is this guy a total ******* and truly unwilling to seek a reasonable compromise? Sounds like he just blew off the HOA. This man deserves respect, LOTS of respect, but not a waiver to do whatever he wishes. People agree to follow rules and then break them all the time. I agree that the HOA probably has no issue with the US flag and it's a bold assumption to think them automatically unpatriotic. It's probably about a VERY large flag pole best suited for a public bldg rather than a home. While it's not something I can even imagine noticing, let alone protesting, someone is always on the hook to enforce "the rules." I suspect this also contains this element: that letting one rule to be broken undermines the ability to enforce any of the others. I'd hope they amend their rules to allow this flag to be flown but see their side too. By the way, there is no US Code on how one can fly a flag. The Flag Code is a collection of suggestions and traditions one SHOULD opt to abide by, but there is ample case law to support penalty free defacing of our flag if one so desires. Ever seen one set afire? I find an abomination, but I've read stories of a certain faction of people in this country currently flying the flag upside down and planning to do it every day until Obama leaves office.

Just be patient. It is the best, but it may take a loooooong time to reach you. Great tube maker but as a businessman he leaves a lot to be desired.

Benelli M4... Happy T-day weekend to you too.

I was here because I own an M4, that's what I was hoping to read about. If I have a question on the PS90 I go to where people know what they're talk about. Last point: There is simply no way the FNs are POS. Now you might not like the round, that's fine, but they're very accurate, totally reliable, easy to shoot well and maintain. So if you think the caliber is a POS, well that's open to debate, but not the rifle. Anyone that has shot one knows different. This isn't the only place where people debate the performance of certain calibers. Do we really think anything new or definitive will be said? The debate on the 9mm replacing the 45 and the 5.56 replacing the 7.62 still rages, yet we know what the DoD opted to do DECADES ago. The 5.7, especially in the PS90, is a great little caliber in some apps. I won't fall into the same boat I accuse others of, but I have to say I haven't read anything positive about the 9mm in a long time. The MP-5 in 9mm is what the Secret Service and the SEALs replaced with the P90. Now you see the longer range engagements in Afghanistan have led to M-14 being reintroduced as well as a number of discussion on the need for rounds hotter than the 5.56. Why is that? Because no round is optimally suited to every circumstance. It's always been an issue of weight, cube, capacity, recoil etc vs. performance. I have a number of rifles of different calibers. No, I surely wouldn't hunt bear with a PS90 (or an AR15), but if I needed something to defend myself inside a bldg or 50 yards outside, the PS90 is what I would grab. Since I don't have a Rambo fetish and no plans to shoot someone I can avoid conflict with (aversion to jail), I don't need to cap someone at 500 yds with a 5.56 or a 7.62. Maybe you have other aims, but among people that pick weapons for a living a number have selected the PS90 to fill that niche. And yes, over penetration is a real issue for some circumstances. Of course, let's be honest. 99.9999% of what we buy we buy to have fun with. I spent 26 years in the Marines and I would cap someone if I had too in a heartbeat, but I also understand I have purchased many weapons and lots of ammo because I enjoy shooting sports and would rather not spend hours discussing the merits of what is going to drop a bad guy best in all the hypothetical and caveated scenarios you guys can dream up. I just hope that anti-gun crowd doesn't get anymore traction on the FiveseveN after its use in the Ft Hood tragedy .

Most don't carry 1911s either, that doesn't make them bad or discredited. Most don't use M4s... And your "conclusion" of the consensus opinion of the 57 on those sites is let's just say warped a bit

Used by the Navy SEALs group of the United States Navy.[149] Also used by several federal agencies including the United States Secret Service since the late 1990s,[7][40][57][125][127][154][155][156][157][158][159][160] the former Immigration and Naturalization Service,[57] and the Federal Protective Service branch of the ICE since 2001.[50][125][161][162] On the local level it is also used by a large number of law enforcement agencies in the United States,[7] mostly for SWAT or similar groups. The first local law enforcement agency in the country to adopt the weapon was the Houston Police Department in Texas in 1999,[14][127] followed shortly by the Richland County Sheriff's Department in South Carolina.[163] In Texas the P90 is also used by the Bryan police department,[164] the Zapata County sheriff's department,[165] and the PS90 variant has been issued by the Addison police department to officers in patrol cars since 2007, making it the first police department in the country to use it in this role.[155][156] In California it is used by the San Francisco Police Department.[166] In New Jersey it has been used by the Passaic County Sheriff's Department since 2002.[17] In Kansas it has been used by the Olathe police department since 2001.[167] In South Dakota it is used by the Sioux Falls Police Department.[168] In Alabama it is used by the Birmingham Police Department.[169][170] In Alaska it is used by the Alaska State Troopers.[171] In Missouri it is used by the Creve Coeur police department.[172] Based on a quick review of the citations, most of these are still in use. Again, no one is forcing anyone to buy it.

Steve, I resisted this comment when I first saw your post, but am going to say it now. Why the heck did you come here to ask about the FN when probably less than 1 in 100 members have even touched one? Of course, as you can read, that hasn't stopped them from rendering their "valued" opinions. http://www.fivesevenforum.com http://ps90forum.com/ On these two sites that FOCUS on this caliber you can read criticism of the: factory ammo, ballistics of the round in general, the design, the sight, etc. But the vast majority of the people discussing it will know what they're talking about instead of making rather stupid remarks.

The answer would be YES. The Secret Service uses it to protect the President and others. Again, you're entitled to think it a POS. Personally couldn't care less what you think about anything, but you don't know what you're talking about and others might think you do. By 2003, 17,000 P90s were in use by military and police forces[6] in over 25 countries worldwide.[6][7] By 2009, the P90 and variants were in use with over 200 agencies in the United States.[8] Go to Wiki to read the citations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_P90

Personally I'd get one with a rail and put a T-1 on it. That's what I've done. Great little bullpup. Though I have a number of ARs and a SOCOM 16 (in a EBR stock) this is my "bugout" weapon. Combined with a FiveseveN on your hip you can travel very light packing three 50 rd mags in a thigh pouch and two 30 rd mags for 57. With mags already in both weapons that's 290 rds and you barely notice it. Oh by the way, it's also lots of fun to shoot, easy to clean and totally reliable. FN weapons are far from POS. Of course, not liking them is certainly w/in anyone's rights. Edit: By the way, I was first exposed to these (actually the full auto P90) years ago when I took some Members of Congress and staffers to Fredericksburg to check out the then new FN 50 cal. The carbine and pistol were easy to shoot well. As many of us know the Secret Service uses the P90. I was told they fired something like 20K rounds through one with no lube without a FTF during testing. I might be a bit off on the number as it's been so long, but it was many thousand rounds, no lube, and no problems. The only gripe some have is that the 5.7mm round got a bad rap as a "cop killer" so FN "watered down" the ammo available to civilians. I still find it pretty good though especially as proper bullet placement is so much easier to execute.

Only cover I know of is the one that comes with it. Front and rear cap connected with elastic. They can be removed (clear of the lenses) while still on the bottom of the sight. They work well enough in my view.

If people just PM'd him with what they were willing to pay it would cut down on a lot of arguing. Silence is the best remedy to something YOU find overpriced. He did sort of hint that PMs were what he was looking for rather than an intramural fight fight. Plus, do we have to revisit the same old tired perspectives on this EVERY time a stock comes up for sale? Okay, I got, "free marketers" vs. "do your M4 friends a favor at a reasonable price" vs. "don't be greedy" types. This was all very interesting the first twenty times we discussed it.

Had a T-1 on mine but have since moved it to a rifle. Burris Fast Fire II is one I really like on a shotgun. I have no intention of using the M4 with NVGs though.

I took a lot of baloney for mentioning it here, but I had purchased an inexpensive strap wrench for a plumping project about the same time and it came in quite handy. Kip commented that he has used one as well. NOT REQUIRED but it makes it go quickly if you have one kicking around. You'll need the heat gun for sure. Slip ring pliers are also required to remove/ replace the spring retainer properly.

You have a PM. Thanks

Insignificant difference.

As I said already, it doesn't exist in the market yet. I also told you there were pics on his site: http://photos.carriercomp.com/GalleryFilmstrip.aspx?gallery=210213

Kip at Carrier is highly regarded for his workmanship but is currently "underwater" making Ti mag tube extensions. The only "for sale" items on his site at my last visit were tubes and springs for those tubes. If you fish around a bit you'll see pics of his efforts on muzzle brakes and "real" P-rails. Some of us are also hoping he makes a very good replacement for the bolt handle. Bottom line though is patience is required. He's trimmed his tube backlog to 2-4 weeks (as I recently read) but not really ready to expand into other items he can't deliver in a timely fashion just yet.

Reality at this point is these parts don't exist from US firms. I wonder if there are enough M4s in the market to spark an interest. I'm compliant with a new hand guard, follower, and extension. If I go to new stock I'll need more US parts too.

Had an Eotech initially and came to the same conclusion as you -- too bulky and heavy. It sits on a SOCOM 16 in a Sage stock now. Then a T-1 on a LaRue mount - this is overkill for an HD shotgun but it's okay if you don't find it obscuring like I did. That sits on an FN PS90 now. Found happiness on the M4 with a Burris Fast Fire II.