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Posts posted by les_garten
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I prefer the shape of the DMW button. When the safety is on, I can feel it pressing against my trigger finger slightly telling me that it is on. I then modified the safety spring weight so that it is easier to press. It's still safe and firm, but you don't have to break your firing grip in order to press it.
Much of of the other aftermarket components are better than the OEM, so they're worth the upgrade alone on their own merits even if 922r didn't exist. The only one that is kind of a shrug is the FFT handguards. You want things like the titanium full length tube and it's better spring anyway. So I wouldn't pay a premium for a model when you're going to want to swap much of the parts out anyway.
These other her models shouldn't be sold to the civilian public. The dealers are supposed to be selling them to people with the appropriate LEO letterheads. Once the person with the law enforcement issues model has it, they're free to sell it if they want. Basically exploiting the position.
Here's how I did the math and that it works out.
$1800 for an LE Model
minus $250 or so for the Collapsible stock that I would have to buy anyway
equals $1550 for the gun and I don't have a Pistol grip stock I don't want
minus $140 or so for the trigger parts I don't have to replace to do 922r compliance
equals $1410 for the base gun to work off of and I start out with a 7 round tube that is legal and the questionable 2nd type of cool that comes from having the LE label on the box??!!
So I figure one of these is only costing me $1410!
Is that a bad deal?
I thought that there wasn't much performance advantage in the FFT trigger and Geisselle hammer to justify an upgrade that wasn't needed.
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In one of Keith's threads on another forum, he said he got rid of the Promag stock after it broke and the Limbsaver transferred over to the OEM collapsible stock. I'm kind of curious about trying a Limbsaver out on mine too.
Ahhh, I didn't see that thread. I too would like to know if he was able to make the Limbsaver work with the Benelli stock.
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@StrangerDanger
Can you compare and contrast the DMW and TTI safeties?
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Hoped you'd see this post and reply.
The reason I was interested in the LE is that I wouldn't have to replace the trigger parts and the handguards. There are a few bits on your list I wasn't aware of like the DMW safety. Most of the other pieces I have or am acquiring. I did substitute an Elzetta Bravo for the light.
I don't feel lucky enough to find the CC Bolt handle, just don't see that happening.
I don't like the over-sized Bolt releases, so I think I'll leave that stock.
The rest I have or is on my list.
I think the LE model sales must be an agreement with the distributors and gun shops to sell them only to LE officers and depts. Maybe the recent law has allowed them to sell to civilians? Or they are just doing it. The LE models are obviously importable guns and are not illegal to sell to civilians by depts that are retiring them. Ipso facto, they are 922r compliant by their very nature.
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I have a few questions and some potential answers.
Why are there so many LE versions 11721 models and others for sale on Gunbroker? These are new from Dealers with Brick and Mortar Gun shops. I thought they couldn't sell these to Civilians?
They are also not marked LE on the Receiver, but have the Label overlay on the end of the box showing 11721 for instance.
So I called Benelli about these guns and asked 3 questions
1) Will Benelli do warranty work or repair on an LE gun from a Non LE Person? ANSWER: YES
2) Is an LE version 922r compliant if it is owned by a Civilian? ANSWER: YES
3) Can a Civilian Modify an LE version with a Titanium 7 Round Mag tube and maintain it's 922r status? ANSWER: YES if you use US made parts.
What do you guys think about this stuff?
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That is the one, I recall having to open up one of the holes abit as it did not exactly align. Worked well thouth.
Keithm
Your stock is the Promag though isn't it?
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I was just reading this and it would be nice if we could get something official on this. I would prefer to be able to leave the safety on for most any manual of arms things, especially charging the weapon.
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I'm looking over the thread and am mystified as well. Without the pix, it's a bit difficult to follow.
Need a solution for QD in a Field stock
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Th roughly enjoyable read on a great product.
Added to my Build List!
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Ahhh, now I get it.
I edited the first post, think I would prefer a New M4
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See the post below. I'll put a Field Stock on it if you'd like.
But Lt. Dan, you ain't got no post below...
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I just saw someone grab a lightly used one on AR15.com for 1400 shipped. Had the standard stock and a full length magazine tube. Several months ago, a forum member was selling a loaded one dirt cheap and it sat here for weeks before someone stole it.
Deals are out there, but you might have to wait and be patient.
I'll set some Browser tabs open to automatically look at those 2 spots everyday, thanx!
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If you can buy used for a substantial savings, do it. Barely anyone actually shoots these shotguns. Most have well under 500 rounds thru them.
I haven't been able to find any used ones. I've been looking for sure.
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I am looking for a M4 with Field stock, model number 11703
Does anyone know who has a deal on these? Looks like they are $1799 everywhere I looked.
EDIT: Just Bought One off Gunbroker
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There are several such changes planned to make improvements, however, I don't yet have a solid timeline.
Cool, just think you are the only mount there is for a Benelli and was thinkin' about the issue.
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Hi Les -
Possibly. What are you looking to fix by de-skelotonizing?
The slippage of smooth tailcap and barreled lights.
I'l looking at mounting an Elzetta.
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This is for AVA Tactical
Have you thought about not skeletonizing the clamp? It can't be that much weight and would be an easy fix maybe.
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I wanted to check in and let it be known that the elzetta bravo works well in this mount as long as the low-pro bezel and 1" ava ring are utilized.
Would Love to see pix of that mounted. I have some Elzetta lights.
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There are multiple options that have been tried in this thread: http://forums.benelliusa.com/showthread.php/32451-New-Product-Announcement-Benelli-M4-Mount-from-AVATactical-com-Discount-Available
As we say in the US of A
Gracias Amigo!
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For the folks that have the Ava Tactical mount for the benelli M4, what lights are you using?
I'm looking for:
1) Lightweight
2) Black color
3) 100-400 Lumens
4) Inexpensive
Benelli M4 C-Stop limbsaver
in Benelli
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Would love to see that!
Is Keith not posting anymore?