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    Let's talk slugs

    in Benelli

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    I took a couple of photos of the lead fouling that the Tornado brush was able to get out of the barrel of my M4. I can't believe how much was in there. I actually threw the cleaning mat away because I was concerned about getting the lead airborne or scattering it about if I tried to clean up the mat. Next time I will be doing this outside, or using newspaper to catch this stuff. I can definitely see how all this would affect accuracy.

     

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    Mike

    Midwest Industries Aimpoint T1/T2 Mount for M4

    in Benelli

    Posted · Edited by Vortec MAX

    And one of the co-witness ability. I have to say... getting this photo was a real PITA. I bet I took 20 photos before I got this one.

     

    One thing about this mount that is worth mentioning: The Tango Down rubber cover I had for the Aimpoint T-1 does not work with this mount. Neither does the factory "bikini" type cover. The bikini cover will go on, but will not seat over the lenses as it should due to the very tight space between the mount and the bottom of the lens housings.

     

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    Mike

    Briley MFG Match Trigger for Benelli Automatics

    in Benelli

    Posted · Edited by Vortec MAX

    I might be reading too much into this, but it sounds like you are bummed out with the results. Is it not worth the money?

     

    Worth the money is subjective. With the M4, there are not a lot of options out there. The FFT trigger group is also expensive. This is just another option (which is actually available). I would like to know what the trigger pull is on an FFT setup for comparison. So if anybody has measured theirs, please chime in.

     

    I am still deciding how well I like the trigger. I definitely like it better than stock, but was hoping for a trigger that was 3.5 to 4 pounds rather than the 5.5 that I got. But even though the trigger is heavier than I hoped for, I can break the trigger precisely when I want to as I swing the gun across the target, which is something I struggled with using the stock trigger. I did notice that the hammer to sear engagement is very small compared to a stock trigger. It makes me wonder if it will hold up over thousands of shots. I will get some photos posted up soon, so you can see what I mean.

     

     

    Someone please clue me in. A shotgun, especially the M4, is a sledge hammer, not a chasers hammer (look it up). It's not going to be a sniper rifle no matter what you do to it.

     

    I use my M4 in 3-gun competition, but the concepts also apply to self defense when there are multiple assailants. When shooting at a bunch of steel plates, I literally have to stop my swing at each plate because of the heavy stock trigger and not knowing precisely when it was going to break. A short travel, short reset, lighter pull trigger helps you to break the trigger precisely as you swing across a target without stopping your swing to move to the next target. It is smoother and faster that way.

     

    I was practicing my twin loads and first shot (dry fire with dummy rounds) last night and was impressed about how easily I could break the trigger precisely on the target I chose (like a door knob) as I swung the gun up to my eye. I have a 3-gun comp on Saturday and plan to use the M4 with the new trigger. I will likely have better feedback after the comp.

     

    Hope that helps.

     

    Mike

    Briley MFG Match Trigger for Benelli Automatics

    in Benelli

    Posted

    Got my trigger group back from Briley. The stock trigger averaged 6.7 lbs. The Briley trigger averages 5.5 lbs. I was hoping it would be lighter than that. Travel and reset are very short, which is desirable. I had an issue with their customer service which was supposed to be remedied with a credit back to my credit card. It has been over a week and I have not seen the credit show up yet.

     

    I will try to post some photos in the next few days. The battery in my camera is currently dead.

     

    Mike

    Let's talk slugs

    in Benelli

    Posted

    I think there are steel parts to the Hexolit slugs, so I would not be able to shoot them at steel targets in 3-gun. There is a high danger of ricochet, so they would not be allowed. Steel shot is also not allowed for the same reason. They are a cool design though.

     

    Mike

    Newbie and carriercomp bolt knob question

    in Benelli

    Posted

    When I bought mine, which was quite a few years ago, they were about $55. I would expect them to cost more than that when they start making them again. Last month, Kip sent me this update:

     

    We have been battling with some health concerns, but we are still working on sourcing out part of the work so we can add them back in. If you are on Facebook we have a Carriercomp page, and we will post updates like that there, if not, just keeping checking the store.

    Hope that helps.

     

    Mike

    Briley MFG Match Trigger for Benelli Automatics

    in Benelli

    Posted · Edited by Vortec MAX

    Interested in this too.

     

    Wish they'd send the parts out for self install though.

     

    I think they will at a $45 discount. $45 of the price is for the installation. I read that somewhere else, not on their site.

     

    Mike

     

    EDIT: I found the source. It was on their Facebook page here.

    Which optic should i use on my M4? OPINIONS.

    in Benelli

    Posted

    I am running an Aimpoint T-1 4 MOA dot on my M4. I am now using the new Midwest Industries low profile mount that allows you to co-witness the ghost ring sights if desired. I am pretty happy with the setup. I used to run a Trijicon RMR but during one competition it rained and a droplet of water covered the light emitter and scattered light all over the screen. One drop of water rendered the RMR useless until it dried out again. That is why I moved to the Aimpoint which is sealed at both ends.

     

    Mike

    Montefeltro magazine sticking

    in Benelli

    Posted

    You do not have to remove the magazine tube from the receiver to clean it. Just take the spring and follower out from the muzzle end and brush it and run patches through it like it was a barrel. Of course the trigger group needs to be removed when you do this.

     

    Mike

    Let's talk slugs

    in Benelli

    Posted

    I experienced the lead fouling first hand last night. I still did not get it all out and I scrubbed on it for about 45 minutes with a bronze brush alternated with patches down the bore. You could see gray metal flake on the patches, so I knew it was lead.

     

    Nasty stuff. I do hope all that work improved the accuracy some. I will have to look into that Tornado brush you speak of.

     

    Mike

    Let's talk slugs

    in Benelli

    Posted

    I 'm using Federal truball with modified choke and works pretty good.

     

    You have not had any issues running rifled slugs through a choke that tight? How was their accuracy?

     

    Mike

    Let's talk slugs

    in Benelli

    Posted

    I tried some TruBall slugs tonight. They look much more promising. I shot a 3-shot group with an extended IC choke and a 3-shot group with a flush cylinder choke at 25 yards. Both chokes produced groups with holes that nearly touched. Much better than I was doing with the Hydra-Shok slugs.

     

    I will do more testing and get back to you.

     

    Feel free to join in the conversation. I feel a little like I am just talking to myself here :)

     

    Mike

    Is it a Crime to sell a LE M4 to a Non LEO?

    in Benelli

    Posted

    I have a few ARs from Colt that are marked "Restricted Use, Law Enforcement Only." I think that maybe Colt did that to cover their own butt in case one was used in a crime. It might give them the excuse that these rifles were never intended for the civilian market. Maybe Benelli is doing the same.

     

    Mike

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