tucker301 Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I took the bolt to work and was going to do the JB Weld thing on it at lunchtime. The head machinist saw it asked what I was doing. I told him and he asked a couple of questions about it. In a few minutes, I had the bolt stripped down and in his hands. A few minutes later, he returned with the finished product. A little touch-up cosmetics and you can't even tell this one ever had a groove in it! Test fired today and it cranks through four like it was made to do it It's nice to work with people with skills! [ 02-23-2005, 08:10 PM: Message edited by: tucker301 ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerslayer Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Question, Wonder if this makes the gun illegal to hunt with seeing how you are only supposed to have 3 shells in the gun while hunting Ducks etc. in some states. What do ya'll think, I'm curious to know Good Hunting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker301 Posted February 24, 2005 Author Share Posted February 24, 2005 This has been discussed here and on other forums at great length. The general consensus is that the gun would only be considered as illegal if 1) the user were caught with 4 shells in the gun, or 2) the user were witnessed firing four shots without reloading, and the gun was proven to hold four shells. I did the mod because I wanted the option to float the extra shell when hunting snows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerslayer Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Cool! That is what I was thinking as well, thanks for the reply. Good Hunting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdahoDucker Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 I know this has been covered elsewhere but I thought I'd jump in anyway. Here's the rule directly from the USFWS site under "What hunting methods are illegal [for migratory birds]?" " (b) With a shotgun of any description capable of holding more than three shells, unless it is plugged with a one-piece filler, incapable of removal without disassembling the gun, so its total capacity does not exceed three shells." Then it goes on the list the exceptions for the special snow goose seasons tucker301 mentioned. I guess the key word is 'capable', if an officer knows to check an SBE for the mod and finds it while you are hunting ducks or doves or whatever then you're busted whether or not you had 4 shells in the gun at the time. Anybody know what a spare bolt for an SBE costs? That way you could have a legal gun when you wanted/needed to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudhen Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Since many, many, guns float a shell on the carrier, I doubt that feature alone will ever render a gun de facto illegal. It's the act of loading and shooting 4+ shells that may be illegal. On another site, one guy mentioned that the wardens in his area now ask for the gun to be handed to them before unloading. Tucker accurately states what I have heard about getting cited for 4 shells. mudhen - CA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butch-M Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Tucker ... weren't you concerned about the heat damaging the bolt when it was being welded??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker301 Posted February 24, 2005 Author Share Posted February 24, 2005 Not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFlick Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Originally posted by IdahoDucker: I know this has been covered elsewhere but I thought I'd jump in anyway. Here's the rule directly from the USFWS site under "What hunting methods are illegal [for migratory birds]?" " (b) With a shotgun of any description capable of holding more than three shells, unless it is plugged with a one-piece filler, incapable of removal without disassembling the gun, so its total capacity does not exceed three shells." Then it goes on the list the exceptions for the special snow goose seasons tucker301 mentioned. I guess the key word is 'capable', if an officer knows to check an SBE for the mod and finds it while you are hunting ducks or doves or whatever then you're busted whether or not you had 4 shells in the gun at the time. Anybody know what a spare bolt for an SBE costs? That way you could have a legal gun when you wanted/needed to. [ 02-24-2005, 04:12 PM: Message edited by: OldFlick ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFlick Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 With the floating of a shell not in the owners manual, doing it is misusing gun. It is not capable following manf. instruction. That is another way of looking at law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butch-M Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Around here the Game Officer used to try to insert dummy shells in your gun ... if three or more go into the magazine ... busted!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker301 Posted February 25, 2005 Author Share Posted February 25, 2005 Here they simply ask us for three of our own shells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagrizz Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Originally posted by tucker301: Here they simply ask us for three of our own shells. The game Warden that I ran ito here this winter had a delrin ( kinda like teflon but more durable)rod that he inserted into the magazine to check to see how many shells it would hold. It had markings on it for different shell lenghts. He was more interesteds in my new Benelli M2 than in checking things out. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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