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There were two releases of the flag edition model M1014. The first release around 2002 was limited to 2500 shotguns. It came with a collapsible stock that had philips head screws in the cheek riser. The collapsible stock does not function because the receiver extension is neutered and doesn't have the correct notches for the stock to function. This older model indicated in its serial number what gun it was of the 2500. Example, you could have gun 0666. This earlier model came with an aluminum trigger frame and the barrel does not have a removable choke. The seating ring and handguards are slightly different as well. This seat ring is where the barrel seats against the face of the receiver.

New production flag edition M1014's is not a limited run. It doesn't have a special serial number, so it'll just be a jumble of numbers and letters. The collapsible stock doesn't function, but the screws have been changed to allen head screws. The trigger frame is the new polymer style. The barrel now has the larger seat ring where it meets the receiver. The barrel is not threaded for chokes.

There are about a dozen other Benelli M4 models. Some just designate a color change or if it was meant for law enforcement. They're all generally the same though. These regular M4's usually come with a fixed stock. These units have the correct receiver extension, so adding a collapsible stock it it will function without any modifications.

 

As with all used guns, the more information you can find about it, the better. Especially if you can get what aftermarket modifications have been done.

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StrangerDanger!

Once again, you are the best authoritative source I can find on Benellis.

My question: Did any of the current run of Commemorative M1014's come with an actual operable collapsible stock?  Or are all of them, regardless of which State in the country they are for sale in, have the look-a-like collapsible stock, with a smooth recoil tube without any detents, and a butt that is pinned so that the normal release button is present, but is not able to be pushed or operated?

Thanks again for your time.  A seller online states that his Commemorative with the American Flag engraved on the receiver, and "M1014" stamped on the receiver where other models have the stamp "M4", in fact has a completely operable collapsible stock.  It is therefore not legal in California. 

I have not seen that before, and the factory stickers on his box have all the same product numbers as the Commemoratives that are for sale in California.

Thanks again for your time.

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StrangerDanger!

Another separate question regarding a new production M4, without the pistol grip stock (just the solid non-pistol grip stock that we would see on any typical rifle):

1. Does the stock unscrew the same easy way that any of the pistol grip stocks come off?

2. Does it come with a recoil tube that has the 3-position detents, even though they are not visible or usable with that stock?

3. Does the barrel have the threads that are necessary for attaching chokes on the end of the barrel?

Thanks again so much.

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On 12/7/2020 at 2:40 PM, StrangerDanger said:

There were two releases of the flag edition model M1014. The first release around 2002 was limited to 2500 shotguns. It came with a collapsible stock that had philips head screws in the cheek riser. The collapsible stock does not function because the receiver extension is neutered and doesn't have the correct notches for the stock to function. This older model indicated in its serial number what gun it was of the 2500. Example, you could have gun 0666. This earlier model came with an aluminum trigger frame and the barrel does not have a removable choke. The seating ring and handguards are slightly different as well. This seat ring is where the barrel seats against the face of the receiver.

New production flag edition M1014's is not a limited run. It doesn't have a special serial number, so it'll just be a jumble of numbers and letters. The collapsible stock doesn't function, but the screws have been changed to allen head screws. The trigger frame is the new polymer style. The barrel now has the larger seat ring where it meets the receiver. The barrel is not threaded for chokes.

There are about a dozen other Benelli M4 models. Some just designate a color change or if it was meant for law enforcement. They're all generally the same though. These regular M4's usually come with a fixed stock. These units have the correct receiver extension, so adding a collapsible stock it it will function without any modifications.

 

As with all used guns, the more information you can find about it, the better. Especially if you can get what aftermarket modifications have been done.

Thank you! That is a lot of info!

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The commemorative M1014 that originally had the 1-2500 run have a functioning collapsible stock, the only reason it doesn't work is because the receiver extension isn't machined for the notches to adjust.

I have heard that California didn't like even this neutered stock since it effectively has an install notch and the fully extended locked position. Being california, they couldn't see that this was not a usable position. Some importers have added a screw beneath the cheek riser which prevents the adjustment button from being pressed. This really complicates disassembly of the firearm. The importers used something akin to red Loctite which makes it difficult to remove without heat.

1. Does the stock unscrew the same easy way that any of the pistol grip stocks come off?

It's similar. However the collapsible stock is two pieces. The tail stock piece and the pistol grip section. The tail stock piece uses the unlock button and the notches in the receiver extension to adjust and be removed from the shotgun. The pistol grip section is very similar to the field and pistol grip fixed stock where it just unscrews from the receiver when the trigger frame is removed. The only slight difference is the collapsible stock screws onto the receiver extension up near the base of the receiver. If you look at the receiver extension and see the 27mm jam nut, there is an identical one inside the pistol grip collapsible stock portion that threads onto the receiver extension. The field and pistol grip stocks attach at the sling mount thru the threaded hole at the end of the receiver extension.

2. Does it come with a recoil tube that has the 3-position detents, even though they are not visible or usable with that stock?

All M1014's originally come with the 1 position neutered receiver extension. The only ones that have been changed are from gunsmiths and end users. Looking at this old photo of mine, you can see the three types of receiver extensions. I've never seen a 2 position stock in the wild. Only ones received from Numrich arms.

can't get this Promag collapsible stock on correctly - Benelli - Benelli  USA Forums

3. Does the barrel have the threads that are necessary for attaching chokes on the end of the barrel?

All M1014's do not have a threaded choke. However, you can have one added if you wish by companies like Rose Action Sports or Briley.

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