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Birdog19

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  1. Weird - Check out the thread below yours, "Benelli M4 - Building a H2O". On page 2 (about half way down) there is a discussion about Wright Armory now being the go-to folks for NP3/NP3+. I'm sure Stranger can provide some insight on their service and prices. Check out their website https://wrightarmory.com/
  2. JoeGie - Thanks for the info.
  3. Ok, just tried this. While holding the drop lever up, every manual cycle of the bolt ejects a round and chambers the next round. Repeating the process (lever up and manual bolt cycling) eventually cycles all the rounds out until empty. Thanks!
  4. Gents – I’ve been following the market for replacement forearms like many of you have. SD’s shopping list above along with many of your posts has reinvigorated my search. I am currently running a shitty old light on an IWC mount with a tape switch that sits right where my support thumb wants it to be. Also an RMR on a Scalarworks mount. My wish list for an overall upgrade is: Light or light/laser combo (Streamlight?) probably mounted on the right side with a tape switch/Arisaka Hot Button on the left side for my support hand thumb. Also a QD swivel for a sling (BF or MPUL) on the forearm. Here is what I “think” is my priority for aftermarket forearms. You can reach-out and disagree if you want; my mind is malleable (or maybe just mush'able). 1) Ergonomics – properly placed controls for a natural grip that allow for intuitive/natural and reliable function. I like the OEM grips but obviously have not had a chance to fondle the others! 2) Form Fit and Function – Ease of assembly/disassembly with attach points that are strong to withstand torque, bend, stress of a sling mounted on the pointy-end. Manufacturers and YouTuber's are not giving good tutorials on how these things are attached, accept for Hayl Rail. 3) A close #2 is weight. Todd from FFT had no idea what the Truckees weigh so I’m reaching out to MESA. Brileys are hefty. 4) Price – Though the Brileys ain’t cheap! Here is what I have so far: Length Price Weight OEM forearm 7.5" 4.8 oz Hayl Rail MLOK 7.5" $115 6.6 oz Truckee FFT 8.5" $100 Truckee FFT 11" $120 Briley 3Gun 8" $275 9.5 oz Briley 3Gun 13" $325 12.9 oz A lot of good comments from you posters on this thread. Your thoughts have influenced my thoughts above. Rgarc and joegie – Please let us know what Briley does to satisfy the fitment issue. What are the attachment points on the forward end of the forearm? I would think there is got’a be something around the barrel lug to support the forearm. Seems like a weak area to the uninformed me. CalPatriot – Did you ever get your Truckee? Like it? Same question, how does it attach toward the forward end of the forearm? The Hayl Rail may not be a bad option with the RTV applied to get rid of the setscrews? The upper MLOK slots look to be in a natural position for tail cap, Hot Button or tape switches. It also looks like the thing is covered in MLOK positions but am guessing not; probably ventilation ports and weight reduction cutouts. I know this is a Briley MLOK Thread, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on the Briley and others. Thanks, Ave Perrito
  5. One-Up on ya' Tycoon. For 10 clams plus 3.95 for shipping, I had to give it a go.
  6. Sonyman - You did indeed purchase the wrong extension nut. It took a while for me to find this page on the NC site, but if you go to: https://nordiccomp.com/mxt-fit-guide/ it will give the option to choose the correct length of mag tube and what nut you will need for an M4. The nut you'll need is the: 12 Gauge Benelli Nova/Supernova, Beretta and CZ Extension Nut. Ain't it nice how there is no mention of M4 in the description?!! NC's website has always been difficult to navigate and their current SKUs no longer match what I bought 5 years ago...so it definitely takes some inner Inspector Clousea to find things for the M4. They no longer sell direct which is also a bummer. Good luck, Birdog
  7. That is how I am set-up. Carrier Comp 7-round tube with a Nordic Components extension to get me to 10+1. The color match of the NC 3-round extension isn't great, but I'm not running he gun in a beauty contest! NC website can be a little confusing but if you call them, they are very helpful.
  8. What about the effects on the trigger and firing pin springs if left cocked and loaded as a HD weapon? I've read some older posts on the subject of spring compression and fatigue through compression cycles and wondered if anyone that provided their experience a few years back has any new or different thoughts on the subject.
  9. Jet - Looked at Euro Optics and they no longer carry them. Check these out: https://www.midwestgunworks.com/benelli-m4/standard-stocks.html SOLD OUT $130 https://www.benelliparts.net/store/p33/Factory_Benelli_Standard_M4_Shotgun_Stock.html $250 $250 for this stock is steep but I don't see any sellers popping up, only hearing crickets. Keep fishing, I've purchased the same stock on this forum for much less. ATB, Birdog
  10. Headache? Yeah, true that, but always fun to be tinkering and measuring and seeing what you guys say and suggest and buying calipers for $25 and attempting to give feedback to a vendor that is trying to fill a niche market with a quality product. All good and thanks for the assists.
  11. Alright, let's kill this thread!!!! Thanks Jolly for the offer, I bought some calipers from the Big River Store in South America and did a little examination. OEM trigger guard hammer bushing (pin) hole diameter: 0.2365" A&S trigger guard hammer bushing (pin) hole diameter AFTER sanding the lugs and removing the anodizing: 0.230" A&S was pretty responsive considering I was emailing them over the holidays. Fred Snyder from A&S called me after seeing my measurements and commented that the holes should be 0.236. He sent me a new TG and asked that I return the original purchase for his inspection. I just swapped-out the parts and all is well. Quite well. The Safety Spring Retainer Pin was pretty tight, but no worries when I snugged the TG in a vice for more precise work. The Hammer Bushing (I like that better than Trigger Bushing) slid into place easily and as expected. Function checking the trigger, disconnector and hammer all went as expected -- in and out of the gun (though I have not fired it yet). Bottom Line: A&S gave great support and is looking into what may have caused the problems in their tooling or anodizing....if any. Thanks All, and to All a Good Night! P.S. I broke one of my Golden Rules...Do a search for your M4 issues on this forum before posting a new topic and asking questions!
  12. I'll go $275!!!! Sorry, not to make fun, I just had to out-do the Jolly One!
  13. I'm gonna lose my Man Card by admitting this, but I shoot mostly bird shot while busting clays or during 3-Gun with my M4. Cheap WallyMart Winchester or Federal 1 1/8 oz. No. 8 shot, 3 dram at 1200 FPS. Out of several thousand rounds, I can only remember one failure to cycle during a run. I'm not sure (or remember) the extent of the failure -- failure to eject or feed or both, because I just did a quick manual cycle of the bolt and got back to business. Also don't remember if I ejected a live or spent round when I cycled. So, bottom line I'd say you won't have any appreciable problems with cheap target loads.
  14. Wild Bill - 9" Nails brings up a good point and having reviewed the different products mentioned here, I think you need to ask yourself how you want to configure your M4. I run an RMR red dot with Scalarworks mount that replaces the OEM pic rail. It's lighter and co-witnesses well with the ghost ring sight. In choosing your mount, do you want to co-witness with your Aimpoint or have a higher mount that you can look under to use the ghost ring site? None of the LaRue T661 mounts appear to offer a co-witness or allow you to use your ghost sites at all. NineInch - Can you use your ghost sites with the Bobro low mount?
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