Indiana1608 Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 Hello everyone, I'm new to the forum world but am in need of information regarding full length magazine tubes and the collapsible stock of the M4. I'm looking for sites, dealers or private persons who have possession of these items and are willing to sell/ship to a California (sigh) resident. Thanks for any and all help/advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemtcvt Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 That would be illegal and land someone in jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga7040 Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 That would be illegal and land someone in jail. The collapsible stock and magazine tube in and of themselves aren't illegal. Once you install them on the M4, then you'll have some issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyZ Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 As for the skeletonized stock, owning one in itself is one thing, but having a semi-auto M4 with pistol grip and collapsible stock is a no-no in CA. If you stick with the full pistol grip stock, you're fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fett Tracking Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 sure its a gamble, but life is better on the edge ; ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akrapovic Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Is it the combination of the mag tube and the collapsible stock that is illegal? Is this just California? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga7040 Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Is it the combination of the mag tube and the collapsible stock that is illegal? Is this just California? Yes. Unfortunately, it is not just in California. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamlau Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Outside of peace officer exemptions, it is illegal to purchase, or receive (i.e. own) an M4 with both a pistol grip and folding, or telescoping stock in CA. CA Penal Code Section 12276.1 (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following: (6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following: (A) A folding or telescoping stock. (B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip. (7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine. (8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder. Check with your local and state jurisdiction for a definitive answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesa Tactical Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Outside of peace officer exemptions, it is illegal to purchase, or receive (i.e. own) an M4 with both a pistol grip and skeletonized stock in CA. The law doesn't mention skeltonized stocks, it mentions telescoping stocks. We have a skeltonized stock M4 and since the stock doesn't fold or telescope, it is perfectly legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caligvla Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 The collapsible stock and magazine tube in and of themselves aren't illegal. Once you install them on the M4, then you'll have some issues. Mag tube is fine in CA if it's under 10 rounds... I have read the CA-DOJ assault weapons guide and had more than a few conversations with them on the phone... it's always best to call them yourself... Also the collapsible stock is fine as long as you don't install the pistol grip... it's a trade off between item You can't have any two of the following on a Semi-Auto shotgun in California; folding or telescoping stock pistol grip thumbhole stock vertical handgrip detachable magazine or any shotgun with a revolving cylinder any one of these is fine except the last check out the CA-DOJ assault weapons guide here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga7040 Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Mag tube is fine in CA if it's under 10 rounds... I have read the CA-DOJ assault weapons guide and had more than a few conversations with them on the phone... it's always best to call them yourself... Also the collapsible stock is fine as long as you don't install the pistol grip... it's a trade off between item You can't have any two of the following on a Semi-Auto shotgun in California; folding or telescoping stock pistol grip thumbhole stock vertical handgrip detachable magazine or any shotgun with a revolving cylinder any one of these is fine except the last check out the CA-DOJ assault weapons guide here Okay, help me out here. How do/can you have a collapsible stock without the pistol grip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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