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My opinion comes from putting my M4 with mount/light, and an M2 with the same barrel length, same mount/light on a scale. The M4 was a whole lot closer to 2lbs heavier than 1lb heavier. Yes they M4 comes in several models. But not counting the SBS (or fixed choke, removable choke, silly choke ), from the trigger forward they're exactly the same. I have ever so briefly toyed with knocking the sight off the M4 and having a vent rib added, but that would be stupid money for a gun I'm not in love with. And you can't get into a pissing contest with me, because I don't really care. Certainly nothing to win or lose, no minds to be changed, no different outcome even if they did.

The follower is not the problem. An understanding of the various mfg. shotshell cartridge lengths is the karma. A 2-3/4" standard shot shell is the maximum opened length upon firing of the cartridge, i.e. the "petals" of the pleated end of the cartridge must not exceed 2-3/4" in order to be properly managed by a barrel chambered for 2-3/4" shotshells; same for 3" shells / barrel chambers. So when comparing various brands of 2-3/4" shotshells you will observe the unfired difference in their lengths, THIS is what collectively determines how many 2-3/4" cartridges can be inserted into a magazine of fixed length. A few 1/16" / 3-32" differential adds up when loading 4-5 cartridges, this is the governing factor as to whether one can load 4 of brand A v. 5 of brand B cartridges.

Angled to match the stock, with a bias towards the butt pad closer to the side of the case because, well, it's a butt pad. I wouldn't say it's comfortable but it's definitely possible. Probably more so if you angled it completely from corner to corner. So, FWIW this will fit a collapsed M4 and you won't have to pay extra airline fees because the 1700 is just within the limits for large bags for air travel. (62 linear inches) @bigoo7e

Man that first post, are we sure that's not a spam bot? lol Justification and/or fanboy blind devotion. The M4 certainly has them like few other firearms. (the only other gun that comes close in my mind is everyone's recent love affair with the "Staccato". STI made these 2011 pistols for years and they were scorned by "real shooters" as gamer guns and not to be taken seriously. They changed the name of the company, made them black, hung a bunch of shit all over them and now they're every Timmie's ultimate wet dream pistol.) "When going down this rabbit hole the one shotgun that kept coming up over and over was the Benelli M4. Everything about it shows it as being the most effective tool for the job." What job is that? That's the problem. It's a job that almost no one who buys them is actually doing. (and I don't mean pretend practicing to do it, "training"., LARP'ing and fantasy camp with guns.) The M4's problem is it's one trick pony. That problem's not exclusive to the M4, other than that it's only available in the one dress. (short barrel and ghost rings) Plenty of other guns come like that, but unlike the M4 they also come in other variations. The "issue" comes when people buy what they really don't need. Don't take that the wrong way, people can buy whatever they what for whatever reason the want, or no reason at all. Lord knows I have dozens of guns I sure don't "need" or use for their intended purpose) Like anything else when you try to press it into service for other tasks, yes you can make it work to some degree, but it will never work as well as the right tool. And that's what people are pointing out. The M4's "problem" is too many people buy it because they saw it in movies and video games and know it's the bestest gun ever. (It very well may be, but if it is, it's for doing things they don't do) The old saying was "Beware of the man with only one gun, he probably knows how to use it." Years ago when I worked at a large public shooting range, my mind was changed to "Beware of the man with one gun, he probably hasn't used it in a really long time." Now it might be, "Beware of the man with only one gun, he bought it because of a video game." Anyway... back around the the very first thing I wrote before adding all of the rambling nonsense above: I suppose it's all about realities. For ME, I've yet to come up with anything my M4 does better than the other models. That's ME. (other than yes it kicks a little less than my inertia guns, because it's gas and almost 2 lbs heavier than a similarly appointed M2. But that is of minor importance to me.)

Maybe it’s just odd as it was my first post (long time lurker on the forum). But I assure you, I’m legit and will take popular/protected payment methods and provide tracking. its a very well made accessory!

I know this is reviving an old thread, but is anyone still hunting one of these mounts down? I used one to mount my Streamlight Protac HL and a QD sling, then it sat looking pretty in the safe (never been fired). It’s pretty bad ass, just went a different direction with setup. Light is not included (or make an offer…). Shoot me a PM if interested. I can ship to lower 48 with tracking. Thanks!