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  1. remarkable

    Question: Ethos safety switch

    What the video does not show is the Benelli Safety Plunger that sets directly under the spring. Ensure this is in place before reinstalling the spring.
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    Question: Ethos safety switch

    Yes, I do this quite frequently, you could PM me for details or email, [email protected]
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    Question: Ethos safety switch

    Yes, it is a little detailed and delicate.
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    Cycling problems M2

    Great news!
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    M2 20 gauge firing/feeding issue

    Please send me a PM, I can surely help you with cycling your Benelli - enertia system shotgun. Please look through my previous posts. Many cause and effect observations are noted.
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    Cycling problems M2

    Hello Butch -M, thank you for the insights about about slugs, I will be sure to pass this along to my customer. As far as Wolff Springs. The 25% decrease spring was developed for shooting light field load 7/8 or 1 oz in warm weather. Benelli owners wanted a bit more flexibility in the cycling of their guns under different conditions with lighter ammunition. the 25% increase spring is used for heavier loads, cold weather which has a direct effect on the inertia system and cycling. Your 20 gauge M2 Slug Gun and the one I just repaired was sent with a 20 gauge, longer, softer spring. Could you PM me or email me about your three other questions. Thanks
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    Benelli SBE2 problem

    Hello, StrangerDanger asked some great question, light strikes can be caused by several issues. Hammer Spring, Recoil spring, cleaning, shells, etc. If you would like to PM me or email me at [email protected], I would be glad to help. Please my other posts, I have worked on several hundred Benelli's over many years.
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    Cycling problems M2

    Hello Butch M, I completed the testing on a customers M2 Slug Gun today CAT. 13081 Testing was done with Remington Accutip 260 Grain Sabot Slugs 2 3/4" 1850 velocity. The gun performed flawlessly, 28 degree temps, this was done with a Wolff 25% increase recoil spring. I did buff out minor burring on the inside rail, charging handle, side. Several observations were made. The 20 gauge spring OEM is very soft, different part number that the OEM 12 gauge spring. The chamber is bored very tight, I will be taking measurement of the M2 Slug Gun bore vs a field M2 20 gauge with a precision micrometer. Knowing this I made certain every shell fell into the chamber freely, this was with the barrel off the gun pointing down. Any shell that was resistant was polished. Some Benelli "Cycling" issues can be attributed to this, such as when shooting BB's when the packing of the shot is not smooth inside of the shell case. Proper normal shouldering of the gun was precise, all optics removed from gun. If I can assist you in any way please feel free to contact me.
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    release button drops shell on loading rail

    Hello, over time the carrier latch will wear slightly, this will eventually cause the release of multiple shells from the magazine. Here is a previous post i posted to replace the carrier latch. The carrier latch can be purchased from Brownells or Midwest Gun Parts, be sure to order the correct one. I just replace 2 for customers in the past few weeks. Please feel free to reach out to me if you need more guidance. [email protected] That's great. Of course I can help you with your Carrier Latch. I'm sure the part you ordered from Brownell is the exact part number that your M2 came with. This part is a redesign since the M1. You mentioned you ordered a follower as well. The part was changed on the M2, i'm not so sure for the better. If you look at the Sure Cycle MAGAZINE kit, they have a Magazine Upgrade System for most Benelli 12 gauge shotguns. Includes a stainless steel magazine spring, red anodized aluminum follower and 3-shot plug. This kit provide a Stainless Spring a Anodized follower and a anodized plug. The anodized parts are very precise and are very well made. I personally have these in my hunting guns primarily because I was going to purchase a new spring anyway and I really like the anodized plug. When replacing the carrier latch you will need a fine drift punch to drive the carrier latch pin from the bottom through the top. When installing the new Latch and pin if you purchase one you will need to start the latch pin from the bottom driving the pin into position. This may require some a helper to hold the latch into position. Driving the pin to far into the receiver which will interfere with the bolt assembly movement. Please let me know if you need some additional guidance. [email protected]
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    Cycling problems M2

    Hello Butch-M, glad to hear your Benelli functioned yesterday with the 3" shells. I am near completion with the 20 Gauge slug M2. A few observations I noticed was the OEM 20 Gauge spring, which is a different part number and is longer than the OEM 12 Gauge spring, seems pretty soft. This is in comparison to current 20 gauge Benelli that are brand new, different models. I will be testing three spring rates in the gun described with 2 3/4" Remington Premier Accu tip Slugs. I would be more than happy to share with you these results after testing early next week. Your owners manual states that 190 kilogram meter ( = 1374.27 foot pounds) is the minimum kinetic energy that a 20 gauge cartridge must generate to fully cycle the action of your inertial system (measured by manometric barrel at 1 meter from the muzzle). To capture the kinetic energy to cycle your gun the gun needs to be shouldered in a normal fashion, if you held your gun in your hands alone and fired the gun kinetic energy forces the entire receiver to the rear and your firearm may or may not cycle or close the breach bolt, likewise if you held the firearm against a brick wall, you may have similar results. The M4 uses ARGO gas system to operate and control inertia, it can be shot from many different positions, which the gun developed, end user. Please drop me a PM or a email, I would be glad to help.
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    Shells not ejecting

    Hello Brady, if you would like to PM me i would be glad to help. Please review my posts they are very comprehensive. How old is your SBE 2? Have you ever cleaned out the recoil spring tube or replaced the recoil spring? Are your shells swelled, restricting entry to the chamber. Would be delighted to help you.
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    Cycling problems M2

    Hello Butch -M I am currently working on a M2 Slug gun for a customer, if you would like send me a email or PM me, I think I can provide some insights. Please take the opportunity to read some of my other posts. I have been working on Benelli for many years, with positive results every gun. Sounds like your more than frustrated but here are a few insights: Benelli auto loaders do need to shoot against a firm support, shouldering your gun. Benelli auto loaders need a certain amount of driven inertia to cycle the system, try shooting a Benelli directly overhead with a slightly weak recoil spring, cold weather. In this condition the bolt is facing the force of gravity thus your energy of inertia has changed. Benelli bores are slightly tighter, are your shells falling all the way into the chamber area when the barrel is removed and the chamber is pointed up, if not your restricting or changing the force inertia when the system is delivering another shell to the chamber. If so desired please PM me or email me at [email protected], I plan to have the M2 Slug gun completed and tested this week.
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    Cycling problems M2

    May want to try some testing without the optics, the weight of the optics may change how the inertia is transferring energy through your gun. In addition the 20 Gauge M2 uses slightly longer recoil spring that is found in 12 gauge models.
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    Sbe3 not ejecting

    Not a lot of details to gather information from, however if you would like to send me a PM or email i'm sure I can help. I work on 50 - 60 Benelli a year. Please check out some of my previous posts.. [email protected] What kind of shells are you using - shot size etc. Did you clean the inside of the receiver and prep the bolt properly.
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    Supernova jamming

    What kind of shells are you using, be very specific, length, shot size, oz's etc... send me a email, [email protected] Mark
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    changing recoil springs on an M1 Super

    M1014, you are right again, it was tucker 301. I always looked up to these 2 forum members. Tremendous experience, insight and a great way to put it into words. The value of the forum.
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    SBE II - Light Load Cycling problem

    Wolf makes a decrease spring as well. The gun will function very well with 7/8 as long as the weather is warm. Cold weather increases friction in the recoil and bolt system. I know it's time to change a spring when shooting in colder weather and then challenge you gun with overhead shots. This will challenge the bolt assembly when faced with the force of gravity. Don't forget to check you shells making sure they fall into the chamber unrestricted with the barrel off. Benelli bores the chamber slightly tighter to utilize the force of inertia recoil.
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    changing recoil springs on an M1 Super

    Hey M1014, have not hit the nursing home yet, still under 50 and have worked on more than 500 Benelli. Please contact me at [email protected] and I would be glad to provide insight to any Benelli owner. M1014 has great posts as well along with one other member, can not recall the name. I'm sure M1014 would be glad to share his knowledge as well. I use Wolf springs as well. I had 2 consecutive serial numbers of M1's fail after one year. Please look at my posts for shell issues in the chamber as well. Thanks M1014 for inspiring me to post on the great Benelli forum.
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    Cycling Problems & Maintenance

    My experience with Benelli Autoloaders is quite extensive. I purchased one of the original Montefeltro’s imported by H&K and have worked on and performed year end maintenance on over 200 guns models listed above and the Nova. I’m sure everyone knows how to “field strip” your gun, I will not cover this however I will add what may be of value from my experience. What most Benelli owners do not know about the gun they own is, the vital component listed as the recoil spring and the recoil spring tube. This will be the focus of this writing because it is not covered in the Benelli owner’s manual. With the knowledge and understanding of this maintenance and process, the problems experienced in cycling issues could be completely eliminated. It is vital that your recoil spring maintenance be performed on a yearly basis, the exceptions would be low usage or submerged gun. Removing the Butt Plate requires a thin shaft Philips screwdriver with a number #2 head. Apply oil to the Butt Plate screw holes before inserting the screw driver. This will minimize the damage to the rubber. Remove Butt Plate. Insert a 13mm deep socket in the back of the stock and remove the stock retaining nut, this nut will need to be torque to 22 lbs upon assembly. The stock assembly and drop change shim will come off. To remove the recoil spring, the stock retaining nut SCREW will need to be removed from the recoil spring tube. This will require a 17mm closed end wrench. Older Benelli’s will not have the nut attached to the stock retaining screw; this will make the process more difficult. To remove the stock retaining nut screw, my experience has been in most circumstances heat will be required to address the locktite which has been applied to the screw from the factory. Place the receiver assembly in a vise just tight enough to hold the receiver be careful not to crush receiver. Protect the receiver to eliminate damage. Heat the stock retaining nut screw near the recoil spring tube with a Bic type lighter for up to one minute. This is all I ever needed to slacken the locktite. Then place your closed end wrench on the nut and loosen. Care must be taken when removing the screw the assembly is under pressure of the recoil spring. The recoil spring ready to be removed and the recoil spring plunger. Upon assembly do not use locktite, this processed should be performed annually anyway. Concluding, the recoil tube should be cleaned with gun scrub and a 20 gauge wire brush inserted through the tube. The recoil spring should be cleaned as well. My experience with the factory recoil spring has been less than desired. I have replaced factory springs after one year on M1’s model number 11045 serial numbers M400240 and M400239. The original Montefeltro springs seemed better, lasting 10 years. I replace the recoil spring with Wolff 25% extra power spring. Keep in mind these are hunting guns and do not shoot low base 7/8 0z shells. Wolff 25% reduced power spring works well for light loads. You will know when your spring needs to be replaced when the bolt assembly does not rotate to the closed position after shooting the first shell, when your gun is properly maintained. This failure increases when shooting in cold weather and shooting directly overhead, when the bolt faces the force of gravity. Assembly of the recoil spring requires minimal usage of synthetic spray lube, just enough to lubricate and protect metal. Excessive oil will collect more powder residue. Synthetic will minimize congeal at low temps. When reassembling the gun it would be helpful to install your trigger assembly, this will make the alignment of the stock easier. The bolt assembly should be kept clean. I use a few drops of Break Free inside of the receiver assembly on the bolt rails, this should be all the lubricant you will need after cleaning the assembly with gun scrub. A “dry” clean magazine assembly, dry meaning no lubricant, will create the same symptom of the bolt assembly not rotating closed in cold weather as well. This cost me a double on Canada Geese this year because I was to lazy to field strip my Benelli and lube it properly when encountering cold weather. The field striping and lubricating noted above can be performed in a few minutes after a few repetitions. I am hopeful this summary may be helpful. Performing complete and well timed maintenance will go a long way towards keeping your Benelli in great operating condition. Nothing is worse than a semi autoloading shotgun that becomes a single shot. I wish I would have had this information when I purchased my first Benelli.
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    thinking about super vinci

    Let me approach this topic from three different angles: 1. As A hunter 2. As a Marketing Manager 3. As a Supply Chain Manager Your question Vinci vs SBE II: Obviously the Vinci II can shoot 3 1/2" shells, personally I don't not shoot 3.5's, however many folks do (don't understand why) so the SBE II and Vinci II appeals to a wider market segment when resale becomes a issue. Benelli has never put out a bad (shotgun) product, so I would not be concerned with operating quality and jamming issue's although I have seen many of these complaints from both gun owners on this forum. Most of these are operator and maintenance shortcomings. I personally have all of the Benelli offerings and really think its a personal choice. As far as marketing - Benelli has POSITIONED another hunting autoloader in a already crowded segment. The segement which they invented and are being challenged by the competition. A unique problem Benelli has is PRICE. All the Benelli offerings are premium priced with price points relatively close in the the premium autoloader market. Sadly, the M1 which could be the best gun of the three has price repositioned or repositioned as a entry level premium autoloader to attract a market segment based on price in the Premium autoloader segment. Benelli demographics - college educated, Income 100K plus, multiple gun owner, cuacasian male, 40 plus. Clearly, Benelli has positioned the Vince II the with a premium price that serves as a signal of quality. Benelli MUST continually challenge technology which is a precondition in the marketplace for premium price products. As a Supply Chain Manager Benelli needs to drive cost from the supply chain - it appears this is a major factor in the production of the Vinci and the market trend shift in the acceptance of a non traditional looking gun. If Benelli can drive the market to the Vinci lineage, predictability and forecasting could be more streamline which drives costs from systems. Don't get this confused with quality - these are really two different topics. Think about the reduction of parts, the refined manufacturing process that take three main parts of the gun could be completed and then send to a production line for final assembly. If Benelli can drive the entire premium gun market to the Vinci platform just imagine what options could be produced and the cost savings in single platform reduction and costs controlls. Secondly the vinci platform allows aftermarketer to produce modular parts for this gun which would drive cost down to the gun owner. Finally lets look at the evolution of the recoil spring assembly - The orginal Montefeltro did not even have a recoil tube nut to remove the recoil spring. This was added to Super 90's and latter the M1's. The m2's and SBE II's they received the easy removal butt pad a a corrosion resistant recoil spring tube and spring.... your seeing it... now the Vinci has the recoil spring as part of the operating bolt assembly. My first though was how is that little spring going to replace the original recoil spring of the after-mentioned models. The smaller the spring the easier it is to maintain tolerance that Benelli is looking for and to maintain these spec's over time. These are quality and reliability attributes that is forged in the Benelli brand. Quality perceptions are made by many factors, ease of maintenance has evolved which allowed Benelli to POSITION products in the premium autoloader segment that fits their target market. All three Benelli's the M2, SBE II, and Vinci's are all great guns. Benelli will need to continue to drive technology into their offerings to maintain product position which demands quality perceptions and premium prices.
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    any ideas on SBE2 cycle problem

    Spring replacement is sometimes very obvious yet sometimes very subtle. Quite often years of service do not effect recoil spring replacement tolerances. My original imported Montefeltro lasted more that 10 years before I even accessed the recoil tube assembly. The Recoil Tube assembly on the original Montefeltro did not even have a recoil tube fitted nut to remove the screw from the back of the recoil spring tube. I have also replaced M1 springs after 1 year, on two in line serial number guns. Most of the end of year Benelli I work on I just replace the recoil spring, they are very inexpensive and Benelli functionality is very important to the Benelli brand which is aligns directly with my reputation. On my personal Benelli's I know to replace spring when I shoot directly overhead on cold days and the bolt does not lock. This is done with a Benelli that has been refreshed with proper lube on the rails. Your inertia system will be challenged not only by the cold weather but also the force of gravity that the bolt assembly will face as it travels against the force of gravity while cycling forward just before it ejects the spent shell.
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    hk sbe recoil spring needed

    Perhaps Sure Cycle would sell you just the spring from the Sure Cycle Kit. I have use the Sure Cycle Magazine Spring kit and found this kit to be a improvement over the factory parts that they are replacing.
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    hk sbe recoil spring needed

    You can purchase either @ Brownell. I would be interested to hear why you don't like the Wolff spring. The Wolff spring will not cycle 7/8oz low brass shells, aside from that they have outperformed factory spring. I have replaced factory spring in M1's with consecutive serial numbers after 1 year. The original spring that was used in the Montefeltro performed very well, this was prior to the intro of the SBE.
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    any ideas on SBE2 cycle problem

    Search Cycling Issues, pay close attention to posts by Mudhen, Tucker, AMG, and remarkable.
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    any ideas on SBE2 cycle problem

    I have wrote some very comprehensive articles about cycling issues that could be searched on this sight. These insights are great cause and effect analysis which revolve around maint, springs, shells. I have replaced several spring on M1's after 1 year. If you get stuck send me a e-mail @ [email protected]