[4 in tube, 1 in chamber and ghost load?]

10 hours ago, Fullassault said:

I along with several others asked a simple question, how does ghost loading damage the carrier latch since YOU brought up the subject “ this is a good recipe to damage the carrier latch”  I was genuinely curious until you started avoiding answering the question. Usually only one reason people do that so of course I’m going to start questioning the validity of the original assertion especially after refusing to answer a simple question that would clear everything up.  Now I’m asking myself why all the deflecting , redirecting & condescendence on top of everything else over a single simple question you brought up….. eh anyways…. If the M1014 survives the USMC teaching & utilizing it, it will survive me doing it occasionally as well. It’s on page 24 & 25 of the USMC operators manual for those interested. 

 

 

Thank you for pointing out the USMC Operators Manual, if you continue to read the manual and think about it, you will have all your answers in the timeframe that you can control.  

I did not see anything in the manual about "Understanding Light Strikes".  

Thank you for knowledge and insights you bring to the forum.

[4 in tube, 1 in chamber and ghost load?]

24 minutes ago, Fullassault said:

Im not the one who dropped a claim and then failed to back it up when called out! 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

I was planning at some point to create a slide show like "Understanding Light Strikes"

This would cover some if not all Carrier Latch issues that I see and have listed previously:

Carrier Latch Face Wear

Magazine Tube Extension/Spring Calibrations

Out Of Tolerance – Carrier Latch Radius - multiple

Ghost Loading & similar

Carrier Latch wear contact points with drop shell lever

Drop shell levers which control the Carrier Latch

Carrier Latch modification

Carrier Latch Setup

Since this did not meet your timline or nature and scope you went into attack mode.  Honestly did you know about the details "Understanding Light Strikes".

Personally I have read some of your posts, credit givin to your contributions to the forum.

 

[4 in tube, 1 in chamber and ghost load?]

1 hour ago, Fullassault said:

A simple “I don’t know” would have sufficed. Everything past “ I will not share this information.”  Has as much credibility and/or usefulness as your initial claim without an explanation. Sorry OP didn’t mean to derail your post.

Nice Try!  All you did was damage your own credibilty.  

[4 in tube, 1 in chamber and ghost load?]

Thank you for the inquire, with  great respect I will not be sharing this information with you, my apologies.  I will say I replace 5 – 10 Carrier Latches per year,  causes would include and not limited to:

Carrier Latch Face Wear

Magazine Tube Extension/Spring Calibrations

Out Of Tolerance – Carrier Latch Radius - multiple

Ghost Loading & similar

Carrier Latch wear contact points with drop shell lever

Drop shell levers which control the Carrier Latch

Carrier Latch modification

Carrier Latch Setup

Perhaps at some point when this surfaces again, I can create a photo slide show that may assist in documenting all of these causes and effects.  Having worked on more than 1400 Benelli’s these are my finding yours may be different, I am not discounting your experience, which is respected and robust.  I have a 99.78% first time success rate, 100% success rate – completed.  900 Plus Quardra fit fittings.

Thank you for your great additions and knowledge to the forum.

 

[4 in tube, 1 in chamber and ghost load?]

Following this thread is a great example of why for the most I do not get into these debates, we can not even agree on what ghost loading really is. 

[4 in tube, 1 in chamber and ghost load?]

This is a good reciepe to damage your Carrier Latch.

[SBE3 3” only vs 3.5” capable guns]

The barrel on your M2, Montefeltro, and ultra light are all very similar to the SBE 3" verson.  If you remove the "Top Cover" you will see the similarieties.  thus barrel production would be very similar in most noted models.  Using the Top Cover on the SBE 3, 3" would support line intigration.

[SBE3 3” only vs 3.5” capable guns]

Barrel production would then be very similar to most other models, saves weight, to name a few.

[SBE3 3” only vs 3.5” capable guns]

3" SBE 3's are a two piece design, the 3.5" SBE 3's are a one piece design.

[SBE 2- stock retaining nut stuck]

How I would approach this would be to spray penetrating oil on the Recoil spring screw/nut.  Then locktite the Recoil spring screw/nut back on the recoil spring tube.  Let that sit overnight.  With a impact wrench and a 14MM deep socket you shouldf be able to remove the recoil spring tube nut.  You could then remove the recoil spring tube screw with some heat just as you would when replace a recoil spring.

 

 

[828U Limited Edition Silver Heel Cap]

All of the 828U Limited Edition guns that I have seen all have the red heel cap.  Would like to see a photo of the Silver Oval, perhaps I can determine where thiat came from.

 

[828U Limited Edition Silver Heel Cap]

Hello, Bob,

 

I will look closer at one of these Thursday and get back to you.

 

 

[Super Black Eagle 3 shooting high]

You mentioned yopu sent it Benelli twice?  What notes were sent back with the gun, did they send you a pattern?  Did you place a laser inside the barrel to see where the Lazer Light is tracking?

 

[Understanding Light Strikes Cause & Effect]

Over the past several years I have found many more Benelli with bolt heads that are full of debries - causing light strikes.  This is one of many causes of the issue.  Here is a series of photo's that documents the issue fairly well and how to eliminate this as a cause of light strikes.  This could lead to better insights when deep cleaning your Benelli at the end of the year as well.

 

[My brand new Ethos is unusable]

Great News!

[My brand new Ethos is unusable]

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[My brand new Ethos is unusable]

Please PM me, I can assist you with a path to resolve your issue.

 

Mark

 

[My brand new Ethos is unusable]

This is a good reminder of choosing a dealer that is customer centric.  This type of dealer would replace the gun and return the existing gun to Benelli for a warranty repair.

 

 

[Are the SBE 3 POA issues fixed or not?]

Here is a general guide for shotgun fitting:  If your eye is to high on the gun you are going to shoot high.  Correct language should include, "I am shooting my Benelli high and do not understand why".  Incorrect language may sound something like "My Benelli shoots high" .  Benelli has a very robust quadra fit system, the adjustabilty to fit most shooters is a key point of differentiation that sets the brand apart.

If you eyeline drifts to far to the right, you will "correct" this subconciously by moving the barrel to the left, thus POI left. I have fit many right handed Benelli's casted left handed to correct said cause and effect.

Having worked on and completed fittings on more than 2000 Benelli's I have yet to see one, when properly fitted that shoots outside of the Benelli Spec.  Acknowledging there were 2017 models with barrel stop ring fitting issues.

Most Ethos Field and 828U require adjustments in the quadra fit system. The 20 Gauge SBE series fits most shooters right out of the box.

[SBE II cycling issues]

Here is a photo of two carrier latches that are in very good condition.

 

[SBE II cycling issues]

Also discussed was your shells:

Remove your barrel from the reciever, choke tube down, insure every shells falls into the chamber without obstruction.  If shells do not fall into the chamber you are restricting enegy to ensure bolt lockup.

 

[SBE II cycling issues]

For clarity: is your SBE 2 releasing more than 1 shell from the magazine?  If it is, the carrier latch is out of adjustment or bent.  Do you have a extended magazine tube on the gun?  If so the carrier latch is more than likely bent.

The face of the carrier latch looks to be in very good shape, I can not determin the radius profile by the photo.  If this went to Benelli they would more than like "adjust" the carrier latch, if it releasing more than 1 shells.  "Adjust" meaning bending it back to the orginal radius profile.  

You are correct the carrier latch is very hard to get, Briley may have the latch if you purchase it in the "Kit" for, with a paddle.

Is your extractor worn?  Isd you Ejector siezed?

Sight unseen if I had the gun I would concentrate on:

Extractor

Carrier Latch

Ejector operation

Correct Recoil Spring

Shouldering

Please let me know if I can help.

 

[SBE II cycling issues]

Who did you get the "OEM" recoil spring from?

I have had best performance in these series SBE's recoil spring from Midwest Gun Works.  There were fitting issues with these about a year ago, they would not slide over the recoil spring tube plunger properly.

Recoil spring are often found very inconsistant in tolerance.

Mark

 

[Super Sport Tube Question]

The plug is rattling in the magazine tube.  A very fine layer of electrical tape where the plug is making contact with the magazine tube will work.

[SBE II cycling issues]

Please reach out, if you may need assistance installing the Extractor or the Carrier Latch.

The Extractor Part Number is 60177

The Carrier latch is out of stock, your existing carrier latch could be "Adjusted" meaning bent/reshaped to OEM standard if there is not excessive wear to the middle of the latch where every shells rides accross, when loading.