bambihunter
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OK some of you smart fella's... @StrangerDanger@VertigofirearmsWill this work on a M3T folder? As mentioned above, I know it won't lock into the sight so the actual folding portion wouldn't do much in the field. But, would it fit and function on the old HK M3T's?
If so, I'll take it.
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I'm interested if it will for sure work on my old HK M3T (folder). I know it wouldn't lock, but I don't see a reason it wouldn't function aside from that.
They still have these cataloged. https://www.shopbenelli.com/barrels/60046
When/if they come in stock again is another matter. Is there any difference between the old M3 barrels and the new ones? Or, is this an old/original model? Tax? Is this from your business?
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The original SBE is what drew me to Benelli. It was to remove the need for multiple shotguns, one for each type of activity. While having several isn't bad in and of itself, I always took a little bit of shooting (and often misses) until I readjust to the different firearm. The 3.5" SBE (1) fit the bill. Since the both the SBEII and the Super Vinci are capable of that, it removes that variable. The modular aspect of the SV is interesting but I find the curve lines on the forearm don't feel right in my hands. They do look "sportier". I've seen that bolt setup before and it is slick. If I remember right, that is real similar to what my M3T's have.
Since you listed deer as something it will be used with, it would depend what your hunting locations' laws are. If you are required to, or prefer to hunt with slugs, then this may be the differentiating feature. Is there a slug option for the Super Vinci? I bought a SBEII barrel and modified forearm for my HK SBE and it shoots very well. So much so that it outshoots my eye's range. I ended up getting a 2x7x32 Leupold SLAM scope and put it on with QR mounts so either is an option. Regular slugs can work, but when comparing them to sabot slugs, there is no comparison in regards to accuracy.
This may truly be a situation where a trip to a Benelli dealer will be well worth the time and expense. Call around and find someone who has them both in stock. When I first read about the SBE, I made a ~5-6 hour round trip just to go see and hold one. $1k to us in 1994 was a big chunk of change so I had to be sure.
Also, sometimes the thought of one or the other product sounds good, but when you put them in your hands, a clear winner jumps out. I used to want a Pontiac GTO when they were re-released in the 2000's. They were one of the early LS cars and actually had some power for the time. I went to test drive one and was in and out of the seat in 20 seconds. Yeah, this isn't going to work... So, I stuck with my older cars instead.
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Or, maybe wait another 24 hours. The outcome of the election will have a big impact on these types of guns. One side, the price will drop some, then slowly go back to around what it was. If the other side wins, who knows...
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On 10/13/2020 at 11:16 PM, StrangerDanger said:
This receiver extension won't count towards 922 compliance.
Why is that? Do those USA made parts have to go through some government verification process or something? My uneducated self would think made here, stamped that it was made here, would be all that was needed. Just curious...
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I was going to post the same thing as Ball did above. If you are by yourself, set up your phone to record video and shoot. Have someone at the range load a snap cap instead of the round. If you flinch when you fire, that is your problem.
But, if you do that countless times and see nothing in the flinch or yanking the trigger, the next place I would look is your scope mounts. I can't even begin to tell you how many gun, scope, or ammo accuracy issues were in fact, loose scope mounts or rings. It is a relatively easy check on most. If you used a torque wrench when you put them on, it is even easier to tell if they are backing out. If they are, a little Loc-Tite Blue to hold them in place.
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Some go heavy rounds from the start. While that has some merit to it. I always took the opposite approach. I shot the lightest load I wanted to shoot. If it worked 100%, then you are good to go. If it did not, THEN start shooting heavier rounds. Why work around a problem that may not exist in your particular weapon?
For the M1 and M2's, with their 3" chamber I haven't ever had to go to heavier/hotter loads. In my original 1994 vintage H&K import Super Black Eagle with its 3.5" chamber, I only had to quit shooting loads less than 1 ounce. I can still shoot the Wal-Mart el-cheapo 2.75" 1 oz loads. Though physics tells me it should matter, any 1 oz 2.75" load I've ever fired through it worked, even light recoil shells. And, comparatively, I hadn't ever found a 7/8 oz load of any FPS that it would shoot reliably. Now, 24 years later, still shooting the same spring, with firing probably 200 3.5" shells per year plus all the normal bird loads, I STILL have to shoot 1oz 2.75" loads through it.
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On 10/28/2020 at 10:50 AM, M4H2O said:
Just joined and just purchased the H2O, my first firearm - ever. Missed the boat on better pricing available on gun broker...fool me once. That said, ammo eater indeed. Went to an outdoor range and blew through 50 shells in an hour messing around with the ghost-load 7 at a time. I love it. Now I need to buy the collapsible stock, 7-round tube, and all the other accoutrements. I shot low recoil slugs only, not one issue - they load and fire like clockwork.
Questions:
- I see trigger locks that require the charger to be pulled back, is this bad for the spring? It doesn't seem appropriate to store this locked back for extended periods of time. Maybe that is my lack of understanding.
- Do I need to change the factory choke tube for slugs ongoing?
- Is there a specific advantage to adding the Muzzle Break?
Looking forward to following along here and learning more.
1. Personally, I'd consider that type of device something that would be used to and from the range/hunting area. At home, I'd suggest a safe first and foremost. If that is not available or an option, then I'd get the trigger lock type. I use a "snap cap" and dry fire the gun into it so that neither the recoil spring nor the trigger spring is under tension.
2. Is there a reason you are going to shoot slugs only? Range rules? Make sure you match the slug type to choke. Sabot slugs are meant to be shot from a rifled slug barrel. A rifled slug is designed to be shot through smoothbore barrels to potentially impart some spin into the projectile for stabilization (though that is a contested idea). So, I'd guess you are running the latter since you mention chokes though rifled choke tubes do exist. For the short period of time that I shot slugs through a smooth barrel, I just used Cylinder bore choke, or at the most, and Improved Cylinder choke.
3. The advantage to a muzzle brake on ANY gun is for recoil reduction. Some are more needed and/or more effective than others. A .22lr, the difference is imperceptible. However, on a .50BMG, you'll never want to shoot it any other way. The M4 will be in between. But, it isn't all positives. Anytime porting or a muzzle brake is added, the noise level towards the shooter goes up. Depending on the environment you are shooting in, it can really increase it a lot. I don't mind shooting ported guns at the range where everyone will be wearing hearing protection. But, I never, ever, buy one to use while hunting as I generally don't use ear protection then.
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I've got a tactical barrel that I was going to list on GB. I think it is 19" with a fixed cylinder choke. It's the barrel that is NOT on the gun in the picture below.
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I don't have an M2, but I have just about every other Benelli Mx model. I know the receiver extension on the SBE requires the bolt to be fairly close to the right spot during assembly or it is hard to seat. I've not noticed that on my M1 really, but that is on thing to look at.
You might consider some dry spray lube where it looks like it is tight. In all honesty, I think guns built on the tighter side of the tolerances tend to shoot better. I know for sure this is true on ~10 of my 10mm 1911 handguns. Some were so tight they wouldn't function 100% reliably until I had a couple hundred rounds through them. But, they are incredible shooters.
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Nothing quite like a 9 year old necro post. LOL
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19 hours ago, Grant said:
I needed to drop the stock by 65MM so I purchased these benelli shims.
Did you mean 6.5mm?
Great write-up. I always appreciate reviews that say why one purchased what they did. Most everything here did. Kudos. This shows the reviewer didn't just happen to pick something up because it was available at the local gun store and haven't tried anything else.You mentioned that you wi
19 hours ago, Grant said:Having this expanded bolt release is a great thing to purchase. I do think Benelli should make this the default for all guns.
I could see that for tactical guns. I absolutely would not want them on my hunting guns
Though not really an accessory, I'd add some spray dry lube for maintenance. I use dry spray and nothing else in mag tube and recoil rod, and other places that I felt would benefit from it.
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Good pro-con write up.
I will say that regarding weight, a few ounces off the gun equals a pound on the shoulder. At least that was the old saying. Simply put, the lighter the gun, the more recoil you will have against your shoulder. I'm not sure you'll shave enough off to notice on an already light recoiling shotgun, but you certainly do with bigger bores.
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On 3/30/2009 at 4:38 PM, Buzz64 said:
I'm making the assumption (yep, know what it means) that the Crio are the first version that came out with the first super sports. The ones with the threads at the end of the barrel, not about an inch down, which I believe are the Crio Plus.
The ones with the threads at the very end were called Mobil chokes and they pre-dated the Crio series. I have yet to be able to scientifically find a difference in accuracy between the SBE1 and SBE2 barrels (Mobil and Crio respectively) on the same gun. I have literally counted pellet holes in cardboard and all fell within the margin of error of each other. Perhaps they generally have more difference than that. I don't shoot the SBE II barrel much anymore as going back and forth from low to high rib throws my instinctive aim off and I have to relearn it again.
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I've also seen photos of barrels where they left gouges in the barrel. Nice idea, but I don't think they are practical either. If you want some fun, just shoot "Dragons Breath" loads at night. That makes all the tacti-cool guys and kids go woooowwww. It too is all for show unless your attacker happens to be standing in a puddle of fuel or fireworks. LOL
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SD, that is one of the best write-ups I've seen on the various models; even better than I have seen from Benelli themselves.
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Besides being stamped on the receiver, some models show LE on the box as well. Several of those above show that. For instance the 11711 has the letters GRNS LE which stands for Ghost Ring Night Sights (I think it is night sights anyway) - Law Enforcement.
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On 10/19/2020 at 12:45 PM, Chris Rogers said:
I'm having this same exact problem. We've replaced the ejector plate and that didn't work. Can anyone tell me if the OP is talking about grinding down the round end of the ejector plate?
If yours is also feeding two shells from the magazine at once, it should be the magazine ammo stop not the ejector.
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On 12/2/2019 at 10:23 AM, wtrfwl801 said:
I purchased a Benelli SBE2 25th anniversary edition 2 years ago with the intention of using the gun for waterfowl hunting while retiring my old 20 year old workhorse SBE1. From day 1, it began stovepiping with Kents 3" 1 1/8 ounce and 1 1/4 ounce loads. I field stripped, and cleaned the gun, shot Federal 3" Steel, Remington, I've had the issue with every name brand 3" of shotgun shell out there. 2 3/4 inch target loads shoot fine through the gun.
First time out with the gun swan hunting after their "repair", it's 20 degrees Fahrenheit, and a flock of swans flies, the gun stovepipes again second shot and I missed the bird. Luckily I had more old workhorse SBE1 with me and my hunt continued without further issue.
Yeah, I'm shouldering the gun correctly as my SBE1 fires great. For those who say you should shoot a different brand of shell exclusively, Kent's shells are provided to me for hunting and they fire fine in my SBE1.The bolded parts above should be telling the answer. Sell the SBEII and stick with what works. I've probably shot tens of thousands of shells through my SBE1, with 100+ being 3.5" mags every year. After figuring out the ammo specifics that it wouldn't cycle 7/8 oz loads properly (it would fire, eject, then close on empty chamber), mine has performed flawlessly since I bought it new Dec-1994.
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That's true. The reusing of the H2O moniker was in poor taste in my option. At least they could have done H2O-II. Cerakote is a decent protective finish, but it is not to the level NP3 protection for sure.
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Well, they won't technically 'function' the firearm, but all do the task at hand. Personally, I use A-Zoom for my rifle and pistol. These are just to take the tension off the spring after a range session, hunting, and cleaning. So, they might get fired a dozen times or so a year. However, for some reason, I prefer the spring type for shotguns and I prefer Tipton's among that type.
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The longer the chamber, the easier it is to ghost load. I can do my SBE very quickly and hit it right every time. However, the M1 and Montefeltro's are slower and a little finicky.
No, not a single malfunction; Ever! Remember that this wasn't designed to carry an extra shell. Instead, it was a way for the gun to clear itself without jamming if the shell release let two go by. It is designed to hold back from the magazine tube until the carrier is clear.
That said, I have only done ghost loads on my HK imported Benelli's but it works on all of those (Montefeltro, M1T, M3T, SBE)
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Remarkable, note that he originally said M1 S90, not SBE. Though both are great guns, that generally will effect the price. The SBE's generally sell for ~15% higher all things being equal. But, in this panic buying time, the opposite might be true if it is set up tactic-cool. ?
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When you can build one for the less price, yes. But, since they are rather rare, they will hold a certain appeal to collectors. Depends if you are after a gun to abuse, shoot, or to collect.
I have countless guns in my collection that I have for no other reason than they are rare.
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Yeah, I'll take it. I couldn't remember my forum login after I left work. PM will be sent shortly after I post.