MrMilitaryPolice

and i counter that with this users experience Originally Posted By M60-E4: I wish I could have seen his initial review and why he sold it off so quickly.... http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=25221202 View All Quotes I messaged him he said : Basically, the gun ran great, only failed to cycle 2 low power birdshot shells out of about 100 mixed rounds of buckshot/birdshot. Apparently real M4s don't cycle low power birdshot very well either. Fit and finish are pretty good too. I'd put another couple hundred rounds through it before trusting my life to it, but overall my impression is positive. Would buy again, esp for $500.

ive got an 11707 of my own and two other Benellis, 3 Remingtons, two Ithacas, three Brownings and a Vepr 12, so no, i dont need a Panzer, but thanks for asking

in response to the video you posted, another user on Arfcom had this rebuttal... Originally Posted By M60-E4: As for the video above, definitely not my experience as I’ve shot over 300 rounds now of Speer Lawman and Winchester X Low Recoil, Full Power 00, Slugs, and some birdshot with zero malfunctions to date. see what i mean?? we need to give them a chance and see what happens with buyers in the real world. even the world renowned Benelli isnt without issue

seen it...and?? its ONE review..something to keep in mind if you're considering purchasing, but its still ONE review..seen other praising it, so they offset

i follow this thread thru another sight that posted this link https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Benelli-M4-Clones--Any-Comparisons-or-Reviews/1-520113/?page=1

i dont know if i have or not...i dont frequent arfcom, perhaps its been posted elsewhere??

nah, far from it. i just got tired of seeing internet warriors trash a product unjustifiably. far as i recall, very few people here have put one in their hands to give it a fair review. probably before your Benelli 'time' but when the M1 was having all its cycling issues, i guess it was a POS too..till someone realized you couldnt hang a bunch of crap off the receiver and it work reliably.. see how that works??

im not the one calling it a POS or saying its for the 'poors'..im willing to give it a legitimate chance by having an INFORMED decision, not being a youtube commando and swallowing everything you see there

again, share with us your hands on review of the Panzer. tell us bout the fit and finish, lack of engineering and design, how many failures you had, what loads cycle and eject best?? ill wait

then dont buy one. simple concept. new or potential buyers to the M4 platform could come here and see all the complaints and issues and deem the M4 a POS without ever having tried one based on your logic. i think the verdict is still out on the Panzer despite the bias shown here

then try enjoying the forum and having an informed opinion vs denigrating other peoples choices bc the gun didnt cost enough for you. if it was $1500-1800 you'd probably be singing its praises. again, maybe i missed your in depth review.....

so its a POS?? funny, in your vast 21 post portfolio, i didnt see where you had laid hands on it or reviewed it. some people here are Benelli snobs and look to trash anything they see as a threat to their Benelli social status. How bout just giving this shotgun a chance in the real world and let people that actually have experience with it decide if its a POS or not?

yeah man, i remember you as well. i lurk here mostly bc while there alot of good people here, you still have a few arrogant as*holes that have nothing better to do than spout off their moneymakers. i see the issues you're having with your M4. to get to repair, i called the benelliusa phone number and went from there. After they recieved my M4, my point of contact was Joannie Chesser and this is her email, [email protected] but im guessing you'll have to go thru the channels to get to her if you call. good luck

ive had my M4 11707 for 14 years now and while hunting coyotes in early winter the safety became nearly impossible to engage/disengage. i ordered a Taran Tactical replacement. When i went to change it, the factory safety was stuck in place and wouldnt come out. i called Benelli, got an RMA and they received the trigger pack on 29 Dec. I got a brand new, aluminum replacement on Saturday. (original was also aluminum). I know Benelli stands behind their products but i wasnt sure how this would go considering ive had the gun so long. Kudos to them for treating me right. Below is the email i received concerning the issue. Joannie Chesser [email protected] To Tom Sizemore Here are the notes from the gunsmith that will also be included with the return. Very rare malfunction. The tip of the safety plunger broke off in the guard and became lodged and dug into the guard permanently damaging the guard. Replaced the trigger assembly with a metal guard . F/C ok. JW Joannie Chesser Repair Administrator

not a fan of the 320's per se but i am a fan of Sig

well it sure wont come from a douche bag like yourself. why not just prvt message like you did yesterday?? ill tell ya, bc you're a drama queen and want to keep stirring sh*t. you're just exposing yourself for what you really are

see, you cant just let it go can you? just like your private messages to me. like i told you my issues are with as*holes like yourself defending other as*holes and accusing the rest of us of lying. you're a real tough little man behind that keyboard, but cowards always are

i get a lil testy as well when people that have been fortunate enough to have a good experience, then disparage my own experience as 'to be taken with a grain of salt' or till 'i see proof, its just malice' 'i call out whiny bitches' and a few other remarks that were made. i and others have better things to do than to make up some BS about a vendor. If someone has a bad experience, i like to hear it, if someone has a good experience, i like to hear it. thats the only way to make an informed decision. essentially calling someone else a liar bc you had a good experience is not a reasonable practice and things will spiral downhill quickly. we're all adults and can judge the validity of a transaction on their own merits but do so without being accusatory. i hope M2's post and this one will put the hostilities to rest

nah...ask your wife

no one rattled your chain either, ya cuck. ive related my BS experience with the clown and then you come in running your pole smoker when no one asked. if you want to call someone a liar, be man enough to do it outright and not in a roundabout way.

those of us that have been wronged by this moron dont give a rats *ss how you see it. carry on

a few years back i ordered and paid for an item, he claimed it was shipped with no tracking number provided and was never received. i disputed my charges and he tried talking sh*t to me..took nearly 3 months to get my refund. it was a whole big thing. hes a lying dipsh*t

exactly why i called you out. thanks

consider yourself lucky. not all of us have been so fortunate

Uncle Buck, or it could be the that youre just a Benelliparts suck and your ringing endorsement should be taken with a grain of salt. Are you not just an outside party voicing your OPINION like the people that have been railroaded by this jerkoff?? you have no more credibility than anyone else, outside of your own ego.