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I have a pair of the 89.99 Cabela's 3mm Max 4 going on their 5th season. I would geet the $119.00 pair of 5mm if I lived in a cold climate or the $89.00 if I live in warmer regions. I bought my son a pair of the upgraded 3mm's w/600 grams in the boot foot in size 11 and now he wears a 13! Therefore, I will use those for colder days in TX and S AR and get him a pair of the 5mm's. Best money I have ever spent in waterfowling besides the old duck calls I get of Ebay hands down.

Stateside there are many hunting clubs----both for profit and those not for profit that do not allow hunters to use a shotgun with a barrel less than 26". Here's why: 24" barrels in the confines of a wooden duck blind are too LOUD. I agree there is not much difference from a ballistics standpoint but from a decibel standpoint there is.

I have had great luck with Drylock Number 4's in 1-1/4.

Dude: 2-3/4" #6 Hevi Shot at decoy ranges will outperform 3-1/2" #6's in steel. I bought some 2.75 by mistake and tried it anyway and it blew my mind. It is like shooting lead. I killed two teal at 25 yards on a passing shot with one shell two seasons ago! If you use a browning with invector plus, go with the skeet choke otherwise Improved Cylinder is the ticket. Most people who hunt at decoy range over choke their shotgun. I would definitely go with #6's. You want to spray a pattern out there. 2.75's are easy on that shoulder as well. If you shoot steel, I would definitely go with 3.5's but with the mighty Hevi Shot, 3 would be the most for me.

To the best of my knowledge no. If the Supernova is too long and you cannot get past the rattling forearm, I would go with an 870 wingmaster.

I am not certain on the forearm. I hear rumors that you can tighten it with the right tool but it might make the slide harder to cycle. I thought it would annoy me as I said but when you use it, you do not notice it. The Nova to me feels more narrow whether it is actually or not, I do not know. The LOP on the Nova is 14-1/4" and on the Supernova, LOP is 14-3/8". I am 5'-7", 175 lbs. I am big boned and lost 28 pounds this year. The Nova fits me better. The 870 points better than the Nova to me. It is indeed more Narrow. However, the location of the slide at rest makes you have to stretch out further. I can keep my hand almost right below the receiver and still manipulate the slide. It makes it more comfortable to me on follow up shots. 870's Express Models are just not dependable anymore. I have had two and they were not trustworthy. The 3.5" Express Super Magnum would hang up on 3.5's and both of them had screwed up magazine followers meaning shells would get jammed on reloads. The Nova wins because it works. I would much rather have a shotgun that feels pretty good and works than one that feels great and will not work.

The Pump is an excellent choice for waterfowl because more often than not; no matter what the condition, they work----especially the Nova. I started out with pumps because I could not afford anything else and now it is what i prefer. When others are standing in the water jacking around with the semi-autos because a shell is hung in the ejection port or the extractor just shattered into a hundred little pcs., I am still going. I call ducks in a 122 year old duck club and prior to that hunted in the cradle of duck hunting in Arkansas and have seen every make of auto no matter how new or how expensive take a dive at the least opportune moment. Pumps and O/U's just work and the Pump can be used in tighter corners than the O/U.

The best waterfowl load I have ever used bar none was Remington Hevi Shot which is now Wingmaster HD. The 2-3/4" #6 shells I used outperformed 3-1/2" Magnum steel shoot. I killed two Green Wing Teal on a pass shot at 25 yards with one 2-3/4" Hevi Shot #6. The stuff performs like lead. You may say paying that much for a shell is unwise but when you only have to use one shell, the math justifies it in dollars and sense-----pun intended. Remington is sealed to withstand the moisture as well. I have two year old shells that have been submerged while wading in my safe that I will use for the Teal Opener in Texas.

I have the limbsaver on a Nova----it shortened the length of pull by about 1/4" to 14" which is great for waterfowl hunting since you usually have more clothes on. I have not tested it to see how it abates recoil. I think there is a pop-in recoil pad that will fit the Nova made by Benelli which can be bought at Numrich. The issue is it is $70.00 or $80.00 dollars. I will not waste that money on a $299.00 shotgun (Blak Synthetic)

When hunting in cooler weather with more clothing, you will be fine with a Nova and 2-3/4" or 3" fodder. In summer months, with just a shirt, 3" magnums sting me with a Nova. I won't even chance 3-1/2" Magnums anytime. The length of pull is shorter on a Nova than with a Supernova. You can buy a shorter recoil pad for around $80.00 for the Nova which to me is a stupid way to spend money for a $299.00 shotgun (Mine is the black version) I shortned my length of pull to around 14" by installing a Limbesaver slip on recoil pad but I have not shot it yet to see if it helps with recoil in any measurable way. I may try a 3.5 Magnum if it dampens the 3" magnum kick significantly. As far as the rattling forearm, it did annoy me when I first picked one up but I do not notice it when using the weapon to shoot at something such as crows or clay pigeons. I really like the very short slide throw on the Nova. On the BPS and 870, you must reach. I will say this, the 870 Supermagnum handles better than any pump I have owned. It does not kick with 3.5 magnums appreciably. If they could get their quality control program back up to premium standards, I would shoot the 870----there is nothing that handles or has that trigger pull in the cheapo price range. I use the Nova for dependability reasons.

You are correct sir! AL would not be worth a tinker's darn on it's own in a structural application but add in some alloying elements and Katie bar the door. Common alloys are: 3003 H14 for sheet material 6061 T6 for plate bar, rod, structurals, etc.

I would keep it as dry as possible during the cold periods.

I call in a duck camp. I see members having issues with Fasteel---poor brass, screwed up hulls, etc. I never see issues with Tungsten Matrix made by the same outfit. I would try another shell.

All aluminum is an alloy of some sort. The alloying elements give the AL the properties desired by the designer of the particular product aluminum is used in. I sold metals for 13 years.

Think about it: duck boats are made of aluminum and abused in the back waters, swamps and bayous of America mercilessly and they hold up don't they?

Mix two bottles of worchestershire sauce with two bottles of balsamic vinagrette salad dressing Cut several large white onion wedges Wrap duck breasts in bacon strips then cover with two halves of the cut onion wedges, Secure with more than one toothpick, Marinate with the mixture as detailed above for a few hours. Make sure to have plenty of marinade on hand and a good brush Get the grill hot --- 300 F or so. make one two pans with four to five layers of heavy duty foil. fill pans with marinade and place wraps on foil cooking slowly for 1-1/2 hours brushing with marinade frequently. Cook until onions are carmelized anf meat is done. Thank God for the freedom to hunt and for His Blessings and enjoy! A glass of Shiraz compliments the meal nicely.

I will report back with a full analysis on how it performs as well as how this inexpensive Nova stands up to the punishment, neglect and abuse I deal out to a shotgun serving as a caller in a duck club. I always start out taking care of a shotgun early on but as the season continues, I get lazy. So far, the Browning Auto 5 is rated as a workhouse. The 870 Express and the Browning BPS do not cut the mustard. Neither will the Remington 1187. The Beretta AL 390 is a keeper and a workhorse as well. The criteria are it must work will all factory loads at all times and it must not rust in an excessive manner. The Nova is brutal in the recoil department. Maybe this limb saver will provide some relief.

Thanks. Not only are they pretty, imho teal are the best table fare. Those were grilled and enjoyed. Of course the boy gets his cut off the top.

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Any Game Warden----State or Federal would be glad to help with this question.

You can go to Numrich gun parts and get a pop-in gel recoil pad that might adjust LOP but they are $90.00 which is insanity to put on a $300.00 shotgun. You can also buy a Sims recoil pad that slips on that might change it for you. I like the fact the forearm is very close to the receiver making for a very short stroke on the Nova/Super Nova versus the other pumps out there.

A very cold winter would remedy this. Ice will push em' down.

We have muy plenty water in the lower regions of the country and word is the breeding areas have ample water too. I saw a drastic increase in traffic this year as opposed to the last five. I did not kill as many ducks due to time and the fact I call for others (i enjoy it more anyway). We are due for the cycle to turn again. I believe the effort to save hens, the restriction of spinners in many areas ( they flare ducks if not used properly anyway ) and the reduction of limits may be paying off.

Shotguns tear up. I know we hope we will find excalibur but the fact is nothing is perfect. I have been hunting since the age of seven------36 years and I can tell you firearms break. What you have to do is weigh the pluses against the minuses. I grew up in Arkansas around some intense and I mean intense duck hunters-----men who never miss a day during the season. I have seen shotguns abused. Sometimes they go 10,000 rounds; other times they crap out straight from the box. I am a big fan of the recoil system a an old browning auto 5 16 was the weapon i learned to hunt with. My son uses it now fwiw. The reason is the slim profile in the forearm----simply a handling thing. Let me assure you, when you compare the workmanship of a Benelli against the other current makes, there is no comparison-----even with the inexpensive pumps that I use. I was a big fan of a domestic manufacturer that just recently got sold. As bad as i hate to admit it, that company's struggles are due to the poor, poor quality of product they are turning out right now. My Dad is 70 and the biggest redneck in the world----never owned a foreign vehicle and he just gave them up for a Benelli SBE II.