Teufel-hunden

http://www.hoppes.com/cat_elite.html Where do you see CLP on this page? Where do you see "CLP" on this bottle? "Are you talking about the black synthetics? If so, then I can say without hesitation that Hoppes Elite (notice the absence of any mention of CLP here.... T-H) is great on them! I use it all the time on mine and it makes them look brand new again. You use bore gel on your entire gun?!" "It's usually a case of infatuation. Don't worry, it will eventually subside and your hormones will be back under control" Infatuation? At the risk of being called a low-brow sexist dog; the only people I have ever been/ will be infatuated with are women. Wait a second! .......nagging argument about who is right, refference to hormones, Ohhhhh, I get it! ........ Tuck, you're a girl! My apologies Mam!

Hmmmm.... slow on the uptake? After rereading your posts three times....... THERE IS NOTHING TO UPTAKE! Hoppes Elite is not a CLP anyway- there are at least 7 different elite products (I guess you could buy the seperate cleaner/oil/stain remover and mix them together). I asked the question if anything would harm my stock, I did not ask what would NOT harm my stock, I have a pretty good handle on that. What baffles me is why I am dignifying your posts with a reply? Can anyone answer that? T-H

Did he really say "pshaw"? T-H

Quite now ya"ll, I am cutting the foam for my new case- I will join the fracas in a bit- P.S. I hate Crackberrys

Well...... you asked....... The first flaw is firing off a "dummy" round. Unless you have a 5 lbs hammer in your gun that makes a ear ringing "click" when it hits the inert primer, you are not going to scare anyone unless they have bionic hearing. I would use blanks instead that makes a big boom- ...... no scratch that, I would go straight to #1 buck and make them all leaky and shortly then dead- remember the piece of shitte will do it again and it might be your sister or your mom's house next time. (ok, ok sgt cathy- OR your brother/dad) T-H "Viva Itaila!"

Yep, me and Forrest was born in GREENBOW ALAAAABAMA! Actually I am from Selma, AL- lots of history there. But I do not have a perminant home of record right now. I am working 7 out of 8 weeks on the road. "No, I am not saying that any and every CLP, solvent, hair spray, Febreeze, and RAID will not harm the synthetics. " No Raid?! How do I keep the magazine mites and the bore beetles from infesting my gun?!!!!!! "Damned if I know" Dog "A word to the wise ain't necessary -- it's the stupid ones that need the advice."

So you are saying since Hoppes Elite does no harm, no other cleaner/lubricant/protectant (these could be seperate products, not just CLP) in the world will harm my stock?

Nope, but thanks for the info about making them look new again. I am asking if any cleaning/preservetive chemicals out there will cause harm to the black synthetics (fancy word for plastic) if left on them. So anything that will soften/discolor/melt my M4 into a pool of goo is what I want to know about. Dastardly Dog "relax, focus, and be the gun"

Does anybody know of any issues with solvents/lubes harming the plastic PG/foregrip/pogo stocks? Thanks in advance- Deputy Diggity Dog

"not a .500 overcompensation hand cannon." Hey 10Gauge, I think Tucker is talkin about your manhood! You gonna take that?!! ...... wait a second, the biggest hog leg I got is a .454! I am 66/100ths short! I must quickly get therapy for my insercurity issues and rush to the gun store to buy the biggest, baddest, most intimidating smoke pole known to man! (not neccessarly in that order, heII I think I will skip the therapy- to the gun store!) (That was for your amusement Mam- .... I meant SargeC) Seriously though more power, if it can be shot accurately, is almost always better. .... and more fun! T-H "If you see me runnin- you had better catch up!"

After much research and extensive field experince, my answer to this is........ I'm stayin out of it! T-H

If you re-tap the holes to a bigger size, use high strength lock tite, and make sure all the screws are TIGHT (make sure the gunsmith uses the proper torque, which with me being of german heritage and all, is guedin-tite, aka german torque) I don't think it will go anywhere, the gunsmith will be able to tell you. This makes me wonder about having the heavy MESA 6shot on mine though. Of course if ya quit butt-strokin people that would help a lot! T-H

Along with the appropriate grease there is one other important thing- Make sure you have the tube snugged all the way in, years ago when I got my first multi choke gun I shoot some clays the afternoon before dove season opened and shot pretty heavy on the opening day, There was one thing I forgot- I, for what ever reason, left the choke tube unscrewed I am guessing around a quarter to a half turn. Talk about a cast iron son of a gun to get loose! It doesn't take much of tiny crack to let the gunk in and then you are hatin life. Double check them after cleaning and you should be fine. T-H

Let us know how it turns out- I think you will be happy with them- I am.

You are very welcome- I used a 3/32" punch- it worked like a champ. Just make sure it is not a "shorty"..... the tip of mine is 1.75" long and it was plenty long enough. One benefit of going with the GG&G or TAC2 buttons is that you can take them off and return the gun to stock if need be. T-H

It is easy if you have three hands! Actually it wasn't all that tough. Just go slow and careful And they are all going to be the same proccess. This is listed below: 1) Break the gun down so you have just the reciever. (No bolt/trigger group) 2) While holding the bolt release assy from the inside with one finger, tap out the roll pin from the bottom. Be sure the reciever is supported and stable. Drive pin down until assy is completly free. * Note how the spring is situated before removal * Be sure you have the correct punch size or you could goon up the reciever or roll pin or both. 3) Remove pad from GGG unit. Take padless release arm/ spring and fit into place. Using new roll pin provided carefully align holes and tap new pin into place. You have to be aware of the "feel" of it- once you get to the far side hole with the pin the spring will try to push it out of alignment, gentle wiggle it until you feel the pin engage the hole. Drive pin until it is just below the lip of the top side hole. It helps to use a bright flashlight to check this. (I keep a Surefire EL1 in my gun tool box for just such occasions) 4) Replace pad and torque to the recommended tightness. 5) Function test using dummy ammo for fit and function. Apply a coat of oil and you are set- Nuttin to it! IF you are not comfortable with working on your own guns or don't have the proper tools, seek the help of a gunsmith. It shouldn't be to expensive. Good Luck T-H

OK my head hurts now, forget about any refference to any state- leave in the 922 stuff- people are interested in having a certain US part count- the US stock one of them. And I personally don't think it is confusing-

I know, I know- they are not Benellis- but they do start with a "B"!

Got the fatty safety today and installed it- It did not look that much bigger than the factory piece but it made a BIG difference in feel and function after it was in place.

OK, that is one of the funniest posts I have read in a long time- This must be stopped, I am serious, tape faliure at a critical time is not a laughing matter and is the number one cause of "bayonet foot", a malady that costs the US tax payers tens of dollars every year. Have you tried NOT putting the tape over the end of the muzzle that is directly in the shot path? What about scotch magic tape- it is invisible and would add "stealthiness" to your set up? How about bread ties? That is what I use- -Hunden "Retreat?! HeII we just got here!"

Here is mine I installed yesterday. I actually was considering the TAC2 but GGG the piece "just goes better" with the GGG bolt handle. Altough why they did not use checkering on the face like they did on the handle is a mystery. Any of those will work but the Arredondo unit looks a bit large for my taste. The GGG pad feels right to me and is of good build quality. Are ya going to put it on yourself?

Very nice! (for Full-bore)

Errr..... Cathy, while I am big fan of lycanthrope mitigation devices, watcha gonna do with the .38 bullet? I know it won't fit the .22 and unless there is a 12 gauge to .38 adapter you are not listing anything that will run with that fuel. I guess you could always bake a cake with it in it and trick them into eating it!

...... my dad can still beat up you're dad so there! ()

Very nice!