M4Madness Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 [ 06-08-2006, 03:45 PM: Message edited by: M4Madness ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFPJ Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Hey M4Madness, That's outstanding! So adding BOTH a Benelli made telescoping stock AND tube extender would fall within 922r if 1 of the 11 items was switched to an US made part?? Since I am a shotgun newbie, I am sorry for asking this but where does one then get a mag follower. Are they all the same? I was wondering what happened to this subject, but had assumed it was no longer an issue since it seemed that everyone had the telescoping stock AND tube extender anyway. Thanks for the clarification! Support your local PJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4Madness Posted June 5, 2006 Author Share Posted June 5, 2006 Originally posted by AFPJ: I was wondering what happened to this subject, but had assumed it was no longer an issue since it seemed that everyone had the telescoping stock AND tube extender anyway. According to the BATF, the issue has never went away -- people have just been ignoring it. As far as I know, there has never been a conviction of a 922® violation, so nobody sweats it. When Mesa Tactical releases its railed forearm, that will be another US-made part (although a lot more expensive than a follower.) You can find US-made followers here: Sure Cycle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFPJ Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Thanks for the info. I saw the Extension tube they have on SRM's site that comes with a spring and follower. Seems that the collar is a bit wider than Benelli's. Know anyone who has SRM's extender? Support your local PJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1014 Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 M4Madness,,trying to spread your fear here as you did at the ar15 forum,,you got your name in lights there,,we''ll see how many other chicken sh*ts you can scare you know I'm lol lol very entertaining,,,, [ 06-05-2006, 06:42 PM: Message edited by: M1014 ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFPJ Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 we''ll see how many other chicken sh*ts you can scare Yeah, I'm one of them alright. Got to keep things clean and below radar Support your local PJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakjakman Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 M4Maddness, So in regards to the BATF's letter, if we reduce the number of parts in their letter (the 11 listed) to below 10 then our M4 will be 922® compliant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4Madness Posted June 6, 2006 Author Share Posted June 6, 2006 Originally posted by M1014: M4Madness,,trying to spread your fear here as you did at the ar15 forum,,you got your name in lights there,,we''ll see how many other chicken sh*ts you can scare you know I'm lol lol very entertaining,,,, Hey, nothing like a simple mag follower swap to remain perfectly legal. Remember, you guys heard it from me first when I said a year ago that the BATF would crack down on the factory Benelli +2 mag extensions long before they forced Benelli to quit selling them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4Madness Posted June 6, 2006 Author Share Posted June 6, 2006 Originally posted by jakjakman: M4Maddness, So in regards to the BATF's letter, if we reduce the number of parts in their letter (the 11 listed) to below 10 then our M4 will be 922® compliant? That's what the letter says anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggan Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 "10. Magazine body" So when I replace mine with the military style one, I am potentially 922® legal? Coooool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK JACK Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Isn't it all such ******** the way they make and word laws? Replace this for that and that for this and you’re legal or illegal. What the **** does it matter if I have shotgun with parts made here or Timbuktu. Oh I forgot a person with the intent to do harm with a gun might ask himself. "Wait just a second I can't use this shotgun to go down to the Seven Eleven and blow the cashiers head off it has parts made mostly in the US. Shucks I better go find one made of mostly Timbuktu parts." What a ****ed up world this is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFPJ Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Quote from Back to the Future :' Lawyers?...We got rid of those years ago...' Ahhh, the future looks bright. Support your local PJ [ 06-06-2006, 09:39 PM: Message edited by: AFPJ ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro_Kid Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Is this likely to affect m1 owners? Are there more than 10 of the "qualifying parts" in an M1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockplayer Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 I do not even need the follower with my US made magazine tube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockplayer Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 duggan where are you going to get your mag tube? [ 07-25-2006, 11:23 AM: Message edited by: stockplayer ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggan Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 We had a batch of custom ones made on here a while back. Unfortunately they are no longer available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockplayer Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 just checking.....I got one too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockplayer Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Sounds like a NoDak and a US made follower is the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockplayer Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Sorry to bring this up again! I have been looking at the full 20 part list. The question is which ones are part of the M4. One letter from the ATF will not save you in court. There should be some more parts added to the Benelli M4 specific list. Don’t Benelli M4s have 9. Gas pistons 13. Sears ????????????? That would mess up everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockplayer Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Bump lets hear it guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockplayer Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 9229® list and Benelli part number Benelli Part # (1) Frames, receivers 059J (2) Barrels ???? (3) Barrel extensions XXXX (4) Mounting blocks (trunnions) XXXX (5) Muzzle attachments XXXX (6) Bolts 032J (7) Bolt carriers 026J (8) Operating rods XXXX (9) Gas pistons 269J (10) Trigger housings 014J (11) Triggers 009J (12) Hammers 002J (13) Sears XXXX (14) Disconnectors 005B (15) Buttstocks 160J*, 265J (16) Pistol grips 117J (17) Forearms, handguards 070J (18) Magazine bodies 066J, 313J (19) Followers 065J (20) Floorplates XXXX XXXX = did not find in Benelli parts book ???? = it should be counted as a part but could not find a part #. * Do we count the fixed pistol grip stock as two parts or as one. In the Benelli book part # 160J is called the (pistol grip stock assembly)……I say one for the fixed pistol grip and two separate parts for the adjustable. I count (at least) 13 parts for fixed stock and 14 for adjustable stocks. Anyone as interested as I, should write the BATFE and get an answer for themselves. I am not a lawyer, I am just trying to figure out the lawful way to allow my Benelli to hold 7+1+1. Sorry for spelling no time to check! [ 08-01-2006, 10:09 AM: Message edited by: stockplayer ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro_Kid Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 [ 09-23-2006, 07:45 PM: Message edited by: Nitro_Kid ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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