another non Benelli question

[ROCKETW19]

Just like i said before I ask these questions here as you guys dont talk smack(other than my spellin) or have silly advise and know guns all guns not just M4s

so here it is

 

I am wanting a range toy(like all my guns) and I want 50Beowolf

I will post some links.

 

http://www.shopalexanderarms.com/Uppers-.50_Beowulf_Advanced_Weapon_System-Complete_Upper.html

 

http://www.shopalexanderarms.com/Uppers-.50_Beowulf_Piston_Upper.html

 

is the piston upper really that much better? are they just as reliable? do I need to tweak the piston upper? as you see I never owned one or even shot one before

second is breaks

 

http://www.shopalexanderarms.com/Muzzle_Devices-Alexander_Arms_.50_Beowulf_Tank_Muzzle_Brake.html

 

http://www.shopalexanderarms.com/Muzzle_Devices-.50_Beowulf_Millennium_Compensator.html

 

no clue about these either. I mean I can read what they say but its hard reading between the lines I guess

 

what upper and what break would you guys choose?

as always thanks for your help

[Zeke]

Whoa.....That is cool !

Hmmm.. I'm not familiar with the 50 bewolf? But I'll have to research it a little.

 

Anyways, if your going to spend that kind of $$, I would go piston operated. It is suppose to be cleaner and more reliable than regular gas operation. Just like our M4's, I't will probably have a higher resale value as well.

 

As far as the brake. I like the 2nd choice, but IMO they are both cool. What is the price on those bad boys??

[Unobtanium]

That caliber is $$ to shoot. How much $$ are you willing to burn to feed it? Where do you live (is this for bear?) etc.

 

Too many questions to answer, really, but I personally don't like pistons on the AR platform.

 

As far as a brake? None. I hate them. Ever shoot one inside a building or car? They rattle your teeth for noise, but the real PITA is the concussion. It is ****. In a car, it blows glass EVERYWHERE. In a building, it blows plaster or sheetrock or whatnot off of walls and into the air. If you are going with a large-caliber AR like that, suppress it so you can shoot subsonics. Subsonic .50 would be neat and still pack a whollop, I would think.

[Hookster]

Hey Rocket!

 

I don't have any experience with the 50 Beo. But I do have some piston AR platforms (LMT and LWRC) I'm sold on pistons!

 

Later

 

Hookster

[birddog]

I've talked/thought about a .50B a couple times, but ditched the idea, Rocket. I'm not one to discourage someone from getting what they want (by any means), but IMO I'd rather spend my money on something else if I'm just punching paper/want a range warrior.

[ROCKETW19]

That caliber is $$ to shoot. How much $$ are you willing to burn to feed it? Where do you live (is this for bear?) etc.

 

Too many questions to answer, really, but I personally don't like pistons on the AR platform.

 

As far as a brake? None. I hate them. Ever shoot one inside a building or car? They rattle your teeth for noise, but the real PITA is the concussion. It is ****. In a car, it blows glass EVERYWHERE. In a building, it blows plaster or sheetrock or whatnot off of walls and into the air. If you are going with a large-caliber AR like that, suppress it so you can shoot subsonics. Subsonic .50 would be neat and still pack a whollop, I would think.

 

not rich thats for sure but the cost of ammo is fine! i spend 200plus almost evey weekend at range.

[ROCKETW19]

I've talked/thought about a .50B a couple times, but ditched the idea, Rocket. I'm not one to discourage someone from getting what they want (by any means), but IMO I'd rather spend my money on something else if I'm just punching paper/want a range warrior.

 

ya just to shoot paper. kinda like my desert eagle just fun,cool, different range warrior stuff.

 

what would you suggest? not for a gun fight but for cool/fun

[ROCKETW19]

Hey Rocket!

 

I don't have any experience with the 50 Beo. But I do have some piston AR platforms (LMT and LWRC) I'm sold on pistons!

 

Later

 

Hookster

lwrc nice i was leaning to piston also.

no messing with it correct just install and shoot?

[Case]

Man that is a huge caliber just for ******* around. Expensive. It will be bad a** at the range but you are going to bleed cash. No personal experience shooting it; too spendy and doesn't suit my needs.

 

The LMT ARs I own/shoot are DI (no piston). So the opposite of Hookster. I wasn't sold on the advantage of the piston vs. the extra cost. You still have to break your gun down and clean it. I'm told that if you do a carbine class and shoot a thousand rounds of 5.56 in a day you can get away with not cleaning your piston gun before your class the next day. (I don't know anyone that wouldn't square away their gear after a long shooting day but I'm sure they are out there. More likely, it may be a matter of necessity: you're on the move, you're injured, you loaned the gun to someone that doesn't know how to clean it. If that's a possibility then it might be worth the extra spend.)

 

Pistons are a big advantage if you're a high-volume shooter that shoots suppressed a lot. Also good if you are doing some handloads and want a gun that you can tune to your load. If you're just a guy punching paper down at the range then a piston gun is maybe not the best allocation of resources.

 

But it's your money so do what you like. Making up numbers, but it may be a case of spending $1800 on a rifle you don't like or $2500 on a rifle you love. The $1800 gun is a waste of money, but the $2500 gun you love is great deal. KnowwhatImean?

[ROCKETW19]

Man that is a huge caliber just for ******* around. Expensive. It will be bad a** at the range but you are going to bleed cash. No personal experience shooting it; too spendy and doesn't suit my needs.

 

The LMT ARs I own/shoot are DI (no piston). So the opposite of Hookster. I wasn't sold on the advantage of the piston vs. the extra cost. You still have to break your gun down and clean it. I'm told that if you do a carbine class and shoot a thousand rounds of 5.56 in a day you can get away with not cleaning your piston gun before your class the next day. (I don't know anyone that wouldn't square away their gear after a long shooting day but I'm sure they are out there. More likely, it may be a matter of necessity: you're on the move, you're injured, you loaned the gun to someone that doesn't know how to clean it. If that's a possibility then it might be worth the extra spend.)

 

Pistons are a big advantage if you're a high-volume shooter that shoots suppressed a lot. Also good if you are doing some handloads and want a gun that you can tune to your load. If you're just a guy punching paper down at the range then a piston gun is maybe not the best allocation of resources.

 

But it's your money so do what you like. Making up numbers, but it may be a case of spending $1800 on a rifle you don't like or $2500 on a rifle you love. The $1800 gun is a waste of money, but the $2500 gun you love is great deal. KnowwhatImean?

 

great points and advise takin! I think I am sold on it though. but you are right why a piston for a paper puncher. well I am the nerd that always has to have the best I can afford no matter if needed or not,lol Luckly I can afford the piston and if it is drop in and play then I am all about it.

 

I think I am going piston with the tank break (tank just cuz it looks crazyer,lol) no idea if it is better.

[Super33]

DI and Piston both have their obvious advantages. There's an endless debate because people have different priorities. I ended up getting a piston because I don't know the future and I wanted the reliability, my AR is one of my SHTF guns. It's never jammed. A DI gun is reliable but the fact is it isn't as reliable as a piston under certain circumstances (poor maintenance, extensive shooting). I'm still amazed when I strip my AR down and the bolt is already clean after one wipe! I wish things went that smoothly in the bathroom!

[ROCKETW19]

with the recent shooting at the school I am now torn what to get. I think obummer is gonna do something silly so I need to make some choices and fast. grab what you can in order of importance is my thinking now!

not what is cool/fun anymore.

[birddog]

ya just to shoot paper. kinda like my desert eagle just fun,cool, different range warrior stuff.

 

what would you suggest? not for a gun fight but for cool/fun

 

Pardon for not getting back, Rocket. 'suggestion?' Well, knowing what I do about my personal habits, likes/dislikes, tendencies etc.,.. I keep coming back to, "keep it simple, stupid.". W/O typing a book explaining everything .223Rem/.308Win (or 5.56/7.62 nato rounds yadda-yadda) make way too much sense to look away from (IMO).

 

My Judge was a dumb decision. Next was the S&W 500.. now I'm coming to grips the 300aac blk custom bolt gun I had done is right there with 'em along with the 25-06 I had done a while back. The 'new' and 'cool' wears off then its just 'meh' and back to the reliable favorites and onto the next time, "Hey! There's something shiny!", hits. Gun A.D.D. if you will.

 

Just something random I grew to adhere to/adopt was matching brass then to a lesser extent calibers. Example: .375H&H family of brass I went with the .375H&H/8RemMag/7STW/7RemMag. Most of my rifle shooting centers around 30cal, 7's and .223. What I personally gravitate to anyway. Thats kind of a nutshell rundown of my mentality w/o getting too deep.