StarLynx Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 All you heavily experienced M4 with adjustable/Colaspable stock) owners out there,..Purty pleeze...whats the best sling out there for it?? Whats the little round hole on the lower part of the Adjustable stock for??... Thanks for any info Stay Safer! Wade [ 05-19-2006, 06:56 PM: Message edited by: StarLynx ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1014 Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 I DO wanna seeeeeeee????? [ 05-19-2006, 07:51 PM: Message edited by: M1014 ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarLynx Posted May 20, 2006 Author Share Posted May 20, 2006 Yup,Pleez!..I await with "ABATED Breath"...Heh-heh!.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggan Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 I have a blackhawk 2 point sling, and it kicks major ***. It's real adjustable and lets me wear it muzzle up/down, weak/strong side, anything. I'll get pictures in a little bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggan Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 http://www.blackhawk.com/product_detail.asp?product_id=4011&d= I beleive it is that one, but if not, it is just like that. The sling goes though the stock attack points ... aka front sling attachment point turned to the left (a major PIA to do without tools, btw) and the rear collapsible loop. It has a quick release clasp, and another release point that releases the front attachment, while still keeping it on the connecting webbing. This lets you use it in single point mode, for even greater range of movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarLynx Posted May 20, 2006 Author Share Posted May 20, 2006 I like that one...Ya don't have a pic of it on your M4 do ya????..Purty pleez??..I'll put 'cha in my will if ya do.....Not a bad deal really..Both ma exwives are still real good look'n...heh_heh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggan Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Taking some right now for you. Hold on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggan Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Here you go. Some pictures of single point mode, double mode, etc. The pictures came out a little dark as I didn't use a flash, thus the color dodging. Of special note are a few of the +2 extensions I got from Cal's a few days ago, and my black thumb. That's from being handed my benell with the bolt "locked open" from an amateur friend ... turns out it was only stuck half open, so when I went to load that first shell, it came loose, and what you see is the result. Hurt like something else. [ 05-20-2006, 03:14 AM: Message edited by: Duggan ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StarLynx Posted May 20, 2006 Author Share Posted May 20, 2006 Hey thanks ,Duggan!...I like that...plus..I think I got a few of those around here somewhere..If I can figure out how to re-string/sling em back to where they'll work on my M4... BTW..What is that round hole on the lower rear of our Colasp.11707 stocks meant for ??...M1014 won't tell me...cuz he's a meany!!....LOL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duggan Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 An H&K style hook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1014 Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 dearrrrr StarLynx,,,very busy saturday,ya know workie,, worky------check this post late saturday or by noon sunday,,,Duggan's sling is great,seeya from the meanie M1014--lol-lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakjakman Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Yo dudes, check this sight out: Specter Looks like their slings are for the M1, M2, and M3; but I bet they'll work on the M4 as well. [ 05-20-2006, 01:34 PM: Message edited by: jakjakman ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgi5150 Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Hi All, I have to agree with jakjakman, Specter products are really great pieces, and they have the best customer service around. The only reason I went with a Blue Line for my AR was the H&K hook, which I really like. I have recently gone to the MOUT SPS for the Benelli M1 Entry, and the Blue Line SPS for the AR, as the two/three point units tend to get caught up in other gear and on household items when house clearing. A few years ago, when I was involved in the marijuana eradications our department does, I would have loved to have had the MOUT style slings. Our local mountain underbrush is a giant tangled web, and branches catch on everything. I am totally sold on the single point slings now days... Take care, JJ [ 05-20-2006, 04:15 PM: Message edited by: jjgi5150 ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakjakman Posted May 20, 2006 Share Posted May 20, 2006 jjgi5150--good input, thanks! Btw, when you put the MOUT on your Benelli Entry, did you get the 'G. G. & G. Shotgun Receiver Sling Mount' for the sling attachment? I'd love to see a pic of your Entry with the sling on. Also, how well do single point slings work on long, heavy weapons like full sized Benellis? For overall suport would the three point slings work better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1014 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 heres M1014s brainchild sling,,cost under $30,labor some,,thought process-minimal plain and simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgi5150 Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Hi jakjak, On the department 14" Entry gun, I used the strap connector for the Specter MOUT sling. It is far easier to remove and does not create any source of 'stress' to the department for 'modifying' their gun. I'm pleased with the way it has worked out. On my own personal M1, I would rather use a H&K hook/ring style mount. I'm going to hit up Specter and see if they may take a look at that... It would be good seller, since their sling material is far superior to the Blue Line on my AR. I wish that GG&G (or someone) would make an H&K style ring receiver mount for the M1...the only ones I have found out there now are the 1 1/4" hoop styles. That way I could use one sling for either weapon (I could do so with the Specter system, and did have it on the AR that way, but I just like the H&K hook much better). Anyway, here's a shot of the set ups for the shotgun and AR. As to your question about a heavier weapon and the single point set-up, I haven't seen that to be an issue. Since most of our dynamic entries are over in just a few minutes at most, and we then dress down to street clothes to do our investigations, it is just not an issue. Take Care, JJ [ 05-21-2006, 12:44 PM: Message edited by: jjgi5150 ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarLynx Posted May 21, 2006 Author Share Posted May 21, 2006 I like that flat spring catch...Purty sexee M....i've used those H&K clips on my Mp5s..I might have a few extra to rig one up for my M4....I've got another brand of silent plastic coated hooks that might work ,too.. Thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarLynx Posted May 25, 2006 Author Share Posted May 25, 2006 Hey M10..did you make that clip QD???I like it!!/. does somebody else make it for sale that hook-up with a H&K hook on the back..Or..I dunkow..I like the quick Ds One point.. Is it a deep dark secret??..Or I gott'a get some girlfriends & ex's ta give specual favors to ya??? heh-heh!! Originally posted by M1014: heres M1014s brainchild sling,,cost under $30,labor some,,thought process-minimal plain and simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubletap Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Sorry, I posted this in another thread. My sling attachment is a uncle mike's push button with a yankee hill single point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjgi5150 Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Hi pdw, Interesting info, and good luck with your quest. I have tried about 5-6 different systems for tactical entries. Since I am still in an active duty mode, and actually use these weapons for their designed purposes, I have seen a variety of systems in use, and have a good understanding of what will work and what will not. The system I currently am using, as shown in the photo above, is the one that worked out the very best for MY applications. Our dynamic entries are very quick, and there is very little time to re-hook, re-secure, or re-sling a weapon. If a weapon failure occurs, a transition to another weapon needs to happen instantly. If a door needs to be kicked in, or a shot or detained suspect needs to be cuffed, the weapon needs to be able to be IMMEDIATELY dropped to the side. These type of events happened to my team just two days ago during a SW service. In that scenario, my MOUT system on the M1 worked extremely well. A couple of team members use standard H&K slings on their MP-5's, and one uses a single point H&K style hook on his MP-5. And, as I have always preached, you MUST train with the system you are using. Not trying to sound like I know best, since everyone's individual situation might be different. Just FYI.... I seriously hope your effort to improve will pay off. All the current sling systems got to be here because someone had a good idea, and followed it up to production. Good luck again, and keep us posted please... JJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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