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  1. It depends. If you shoot A LOT, you can save money. As noted above, if you shoot occasionally, or if you just hunt, its not worth the cost of the reloader. BUT, you need to enjoy doing it, and you need to want to spend your time at it to make it worthwhile. As said above, you can use your own recipes for loads that are not commercially or commonly available. Absolutely, positively, get a good reloading manual, like Lyman's, and read it cover to cover twice, before you load one shell. Absolutely, positively, do not use any load that is not in a published powder manufac
  2. Ummm, a shotgun barrel length less than, I think, 17" is illegal in the USA.
  3. No. In no uncertain terms. That barrel is scrap metal. You're lucky the metal they use these days is improved over 20 years ago.
  4. timb99


    Barrel length is a personal choice thing. Also, it depends on whether you're talking a pump/semi-auto or a break action gun. And, what you are shooting (trap, skeet, sporting clays.) A semi-auto with a 26" barrel will be about the same length as a break-action gun with a 30" barrel, because of the receiver length. The current prevailing wisdom is, longer is better. I use an over/under with 32" barrels for trap shooting. And I use an over/under with 30" barrels for skeet and sporting clays. My daughter's semi-auto trap gun has a 30" barrel, and the gun's overal
  5. If its under warranty, make sure you really want to do this. I'm guessing it would void the warranty if you have someone do it. Did you contact Benelli and ask them if they would do this? Since it might be a product liability issue, they may not want to do this. Your member name implies you may be int he Kansas City area. True? If that is true, take a look at thie website: http://www.gunsmithingonly.com Excellent gunsmith in the Mission area, near where the Mission Mall used to be. Tim
  6. splashtx, Good insight. What the kid wants is important. I know the first gun I got for my daughter didn't work out for either of us. Luckily, I listened a little more on the second gun. The main reason I'd recommend against a Mossberg Silver Reserve is the triggers are very, very heavy and have a long pull before breaking over (kinda like my Stoeger Condor.) Not such a big deal for hunting, but for target shooting, 3.5 to 4 lb trigger pull is preferred. The Mossbergs are around 8-10 lb triggger pull. Tim
  7. I have a bunch of Carlson's chokes and I think they pattern just fine. Although, I doubt you'll really find a huge difference between your Benelli chokes and the Carlson's chokes as far as pattern quality. I've also sent two barrel sets to Carlson's to have them machined for choke tubes, my Zoli over/under and my daughter's 1100 barrel, and both have come back perfectly machined and for a reasonable cost. I highly recommend their products and services. Tim
  8. Contrary to popular belief...a .410 is an expert's gun, not a kid's gun. Very little margin for error. But you can shoot it all day, since there's so little recoil. For skeet, I like the 28 gauge best. Either one though, is expensive to shoot unless you reload.
  9. If you're looking for a good quality O/U at a reasonable cost for your son, may I suggest a used Browning Citori.
  10. Tim, Good for you for getting your boy interested in shooting sports. Skeet is a challenging game. I hope he enjoys it and sticks with it. May I recommend the skeet shooting DVD by Todd Bender for some valuable instruction, with some great camera work. Now, to your problem. "I was told by the gun shop the 11-87's didn't work right because he does not have the body mass to support a good foundation for the gun." That's utter nonsense. The 1187 is a gas operated semi-automatic action. If the gun is operating nominally, it will cycle if you hang it from a string.
  11. slsail, Noise is not much too of a concern until you start shooting thousands of rounds per year at sporting games. And its not just the times you shoot. Most often with clay target games, there are a bunch of other folks around you, shooting too. Noise damage to ears is cumulative, and irreversible. So, you must wear good hearing protection when shooting sporting games like trap and skeet. And as far as the porting goes, its not proven to be particularly effective at what they say it does, plus its a pain to clean the ports, plus, many believe it degrades the aftermarket
  12. Good game, and great fun. Kind of a "poor man's sporting clays."
  13. Skeet chokes should be 0.005 constriction, or about 0.725 ID. IC is just a hair tighter. When I shoot skeet with a 12 gauge, which is almost never, I shoot cylinder chokes. Will it get you a bird that you wouldn't have gotten with an IC choke? I doubt it. BTW, an 88% average, if you're just starting out, is pretty good. If you really want to step your game up, get the video by Todd Bender from Sunrise Video. Excellent video for skeet shooting.
  14. I've never used Clenzoil, but I'm sure it'll work fine. You don't ahve to worry much about cleaning lead, as virtually all shotgun shells have wads with petals that protect the lead from the barrel. Most plastic residue is found in choke tubes, which can be removed and left to soak in whatever "stuff" you want to use. I use Ed's Red (you can google it) and the plastic falls off after a day of soaking. Run a boresnake through your barrel each time after you shoot it, and clean your barrel thoroughly once a year, and you'll be fine.
  15. Ah, the infamous "can I buy one gun to use for all sports?" question. Of course you can, but like the old saying goes, "a jack of all trades is a master of none." Personally, I would list the following guns as good all around guns, and not necessarily in any particular order: Remington 1100 or 1187 semi-autos Remington 870 pump Winchester Model 12 pump Beretta 390, 391, or 3901 semi-autos Browning Gold semi-autos Browning Citori over/unders Beretta 68x series over/unders Some people love the Benelli's. In my experience (admittedly, limited) Benelli's are a su
  16. Internet Wizard. I like that. Here's one for you and KG22122 and anyone else who chooses to read this. MOST hunters and targets shooters would be far, far better served by spending their money on a wingshooting clinic, individual wingshooting classes, getting their gun to fit properly, and practicing on skeet, trap, and sporting clays targets than by spending their money on gimmicks like cryogenically treated barrels, titanium choke tubes, and ported barrels. Gimmicks won't get you that bird that you wouldn't have gotten without them. Good gun fit and good marksmanship ski
  17. mudhen, Not bent out of shape, and wasn't posting for your benefit anyway. As far as believing Benelli's marketing, well, after all, that's what they're banking on, isn't it?
  18. KG "You say that unless you do some custom work on a gun, the results are pretty much the same among them. Speaking for barrels." Yes. Pick a gun that you like, can afford, and that fits you well. Gun fit is really important, especially with moving targets. The gun MUST shoot where you're pointing, or everything else is moot. Try a few different choke tubes, and a few different brands/types of ammo, and go with the one that gives you the best patterns, and don't worry about it any more. The biggest key to hitting moving targets with a shotgun is to practice. Exceptional
  19. If you are using your Benelli for hunting, you are really wasting your time and money trying to get your pattern "a little bit better" than what you have. You will not be able to tell the difference. For the purposes of hunting, its 99% shooter and 1/2% barrel and 1/2% shells. Again, just my opinion. On the other hand, if you want the best pattern possible because there's money on the line, frankly, don't waste your time on a Benelli. Get a high dollar gun and have the barrel sent to Tom Wilkinson or Kerry Allor, tell them what you want in a pattern, and have them work on it. Exp
  20. In my opinion: Crio treatment and back boring are a waste of money, unless your barrel throws truly horrible patterns, in which case you should get a different gun. The only way to tell what kind of patterns your gun throws is to do a lot of testing. A program called "shotgun insight" is very helpful in this regard. On the other hand, most shotguns thoow acceptable patterns for hunting, and will do all you need. The most important thing is to practice, practice, practice on clay targets until you're good.
  21. In my opinion: Crio treatment and back boring are a waste of money, unless your barrel throws truly horrible patterns, in which case you should get a different gun. The only way to tell what king of patterns your gun throws is to do a lot of testing. A program called "shotgun insight" is very helpful in this regard. On the other hand, most shotguns thoow acceptable patterns for hunting, and will do all you need. The most important thing is to practice, practice, practice on clay targets until you're good.
  22. Hope to cook one up this weekend. Wife has a recipe for Thai coconut-ginger soup. Going to try it with pheasant instead of chicken.
  23. Remember, steel and other non-toxic shot used for waterfowl will pattern tighter than lead shot. Not sure why the Benelli would pattern significanly tighter than the Beretta. I can't imagine there being that much difference in the barrels. Did you compare them side to side on the same day with the same ammo? With 6 or 8 shots on paper?That might tell you something. Dunno, but good luck. I think Briley sells spreader (or diffusion) chokes. Post back if you discover anything significant. Tim
  24. The only thing more open than skeet (0.005" restriction) is cylinder which has no restriction, that is, the choke tube ID is the same as the barrel ID (bore.) Some manufacturers have dabbled with a "spreader" choke that is actually negative, that is 0.005 inches in diameter larger than the bore, but I'm not sure who makes them, and I'm not sure how well they perform. What are you needing this open choke for?
  25. All the pheasants I shot this past weekend in SD I used 20 gauge, 2-3/4" Remington Heavy Game Loads with 1 ounce of 5 shot, and muzzle velocity of 1220 fps. Improved Cylinder choke in first barrel, modified in the second. (Older gun, they're fixed chokes.) I am thoroughly convinced if you pick your shots (no 50 yarders) and shoot the birds in the lips, you will kill them. Killing pheasants has more to do with the nut behind the trigger than the shell in the chamber.
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