Wulf

on the M1/SBE 4 shot extension its completly hallow if the threading your talking about is a collar that is a ring around the end of the tube then thats the part that you attach to the orignal tube you simply thread it down however before you do that you need to look for 2 pieces 1 is a small black metal cap about the size of a nickle with bent edges and a whole in the center. this is the top cap for the very tip of the extension tube and of course you have to have your spring so IMHO replace the stock spring with your new +4 spring let it hang out, drop the top cap *nickle sized black bit* down the tube, and then put the end of the spring down the mag tube, when it works right the spring will push evenly against the extension cap and push it into place at the top of the tube from there just do some careful feeding of the spring into the 2 parts of the mag tubes and then when you get it all together screw the coller down onto the orignal threading on your basic mag tube now if i've missed something and your saying the tube itself is threaded and doesn't have the collor that i was talking about then i'll have to do some homework on it for you BTW please note if you do get it on successfully *and i hope you do* make sure you have/get/use the extension clamp, those 4 extra shells can actually be enough weight to warp or bend the tube as a whole with out the reinforcement of that barrel to mag tube clamp PS. I stated that the little black cap has rounded edges if you think of the cap as a U then you put it in upside down so that the rounded end is at the top hope i could help Wulf Lupinus Nobilitas [ 03-03-2004, 11:09 AM: Message edited by: Wulf ] ________ magic flight

Good question, i'll add that to my list come monday, sorry don't have a solid answer for you yet, but with them going out far enough to make those guns in Left Hand i'm *at least me thinking* they'd go the distance and at least make 1 slug barrel for us ttyl Wulf Lupinus Nobilitas ________ Harley-Davidson FLHR

oh and while were on the subject here's something to think about thats for the LEO's and MEO's Agulia an Arginten *sp* made line of ammo has what the call "mini" shells and from the best that i can tell there slugs are right at 3dram of powder and 1 and 1/4'ths ounces of lead which bearly squeaks by on the Benelli guidelines ..here's the kicker there 1 3/4'ths inches long which means you can all but double your max capacity ..if someone one feels like doing the math have at it you have 8x3 then take that number and divide it by 1.75 see how far off i am, IMHO i think i can get about 16 to 18 in mine..NOTE I SAY NOT TO SHOOT just as a test of capacity and of cycling of them in the weapon itself, God knows i've spent my life walking the thin line of justice to screw up over something stupid like that but again just as i said a thought Wulf Lupinus Nobilitas P.S. forgot to mention these slugs use a slow burning powder considering whats being used by Federal Winchester and the rest so they are VERY VERY dirty shells to fire in ones weapon and it being out of NATO regulations also has a corrosive effect so if one was to shoot even 1 of these mini slugs through the wepaon i suggest a field strip and the best bath you had ever given it period [ 02-26-2004, 06:35 PM: Message edited by: Wulf ] ________ drug test

shh i won't tell but thanks for the heads up I honestly didn't know that one Wulf Lupinus Nobilitas [ 02-26-2004, 06:32 PM: Message edited by: Wulf ] ________ mflb vaporizer

the shorter barrel i was referring to was a slug barrel wich is about 4" shorter than my inital barrel @ 26" ported, what i was trying to achieve was a 1 action for every occasion be it turkey hunting deer hunting wth slugs and the rifled barrel i'm doing it in a kit the inital layout with the 9+1 shot tube 26" barrel ported and threaded for chokes and the 22 *or was it 24"" slug barrel with +2 shot extension for pure slug hunting..yes the +2 is purely for looks, but it was more economical than buying a standard cap IE the +2 was 40 bucks with spring and the standard cap is 37.99 +tax and then have to go look for a spring good point tho and thank you for your input Wulf Lupinus Nobilitas ________ BMW K1200GT

*/em gives mudhen a calmer downer* heh no bro we know while they have the ability to do such a task that they would never becuse they would be better off saying "just get a rifled barrel" but i've settled for the IC choke it patterens very well @ 25 yards which is an insane distance for self defence *put 3 rounds all cutting each others corner in an upside down triange in the head reagon across the mid ear line about the nose area* funny you should say Brennekk Mud, thats the exact slug i use, that and BRI which if i'm not mistaken is made by the same company but I love the KO's for good solid consitant rounds i just wish there would be 1 scripted answer from Benelli CS department and i actually went back to check the diameter of my modified with a set of digital mic's and thankfully its fine still within the low 69 area any ways take care and be well everyone thank you all for your input Wulf Lupinus Nobilitas ________ silversurfer vaporizer

PS sorry for the redundancy my browser didn't load all the posts on this thread till i attached my massive message mesa sowwy Wulf Lupinus Nobilitas ________ Honda CR125M

IMHO i'd go for it they retail for about $1299.00 ish I got mine for 900 NIB and wouldn't consider selling it for double that, as far as your question about the pistol grip, yes all M1 pistolgrip stocks work with the practical,because its a standard M1 action just make sure to check the chokes to ensure there in good condition and make sure the threading on the barrel itself is in good condition and clean, also make sure it comes with the choke tube wrench, it doubles as a thread cleaner for the barrel which is very important when you shoot alot also check to see if he has the stock shim and collar sets for the adjustable system, ..in a nutshell you can adjust the drop of the stock with this system the Practical comes with A B and C each set is 2 pieces 1 is a thin shim that goes between the stock and the action where it mates up at up front of it the second piece is a metal piece that about 2" long and made of metal about 1/8'th thick and blued steel, its for the rear end of the stock this is the piece that actually allows the drop of the stock, it simply slides up to the end of the screw at the back of the stock and when you tighen it down it sets the drop of the stock ...having said that here again since the practical is based off the M1 action the standard pistolgrip stock works with it PLUS so does the shim drop system, i'm still playing with mine but right now the B set seems to be the best for me that feels most comfortable on another thought your saying a choke CL..is that just plain Cylinder? because when I got mine I got the standard cylinder like you say that is for the break but i also got an improved cylinder for a total of 5 chokes ...might want to check into that oh and if you don't mind me adding my 2 cents DO NOT use the muzzel break, it ADDS recoil to the weapon reguardless what round you put through it ..the Practical was designed for ISPC shooting *the 3 weapon shooting pistol, carbine and shotgun*and basically you trade recoil for lesser barrel raise in rapid fire shooting *for me i'll deal with the rise i hate recoil* also unless you just love the speed loader system scrub it too and get a side saddle *this was added to the gun for ISPC because your are penalized for reloading so when you can have one reload and have 4 rounds you get a big benifit thats what its on the gun* there was 1 heard of case of them actually detonating 1 of the 12 ga shells in the tube and via chain reaction all 4 shells in the tub *the max capacity that it holds* detonated and wound up injuring several in the area and almost completely obliterating the user's arm, now please keep in mind this was an older model that had a metal plunger and thats how it was able to detonate the shell and again i said it was a heard of case i've yet to find proof there of but better safe than sorry, the new ones at least the one that came with my Practical is plastic and even to the point that the part that makes contact with the shell is only a quarter circle and actually hollowed out where the primer of the shell is so IMHO there safe, but as i said earlier its just my opnion and lastly check if you can and see if the ghost ring sights are the trininum night sights ..if so that is a big plus sorry for such a lengthly post but i hope you find the information helpful, as is, first hand info Wulf Lupinus Nobilitas ________ ZN1100B

if you shoot a rifled slug through a rifled barrel it can indeed damage the riflings inside the barrel, on the basic's of rifled slugs such as my personal choice *the Brenneke KO* have a preset spin rate set by the angle of the "fins" if you will on the sides of the slug, if the spin rate isn't the same as the twist rate as your rifled barrel then it could damage spots in the riflings where the slug spins over them it all breaks down into knowing the twist ratio of the barrel and of the slug and which direction either is going, ..simple rule of thumb is to just use common slugs for your rifled barrel and let the barrel do the spinning and for smooth bores use either, but if you truely want good accuracy use rifled slugs hope i could help Wulf Lupinus Nobilitas ________ volcano vaporizer digital

Hello everyone i was just curious to see if anyone might would have an old beat up forearm grip lying around for the M1 Series i have a few idea's to work on and adjust to the forearm and would like to get an extra so that i don't damage the orignal that came with my weapon, lemme know if you have any or anythoughts thanks for your time Wulf Lupinus Nobilitas ________ K1200RS

well what we think is "best" and what is normal to what your use to may be 2 different worlds, case and point, i brought home a M1 Practical for an all around weapon, i can plug it to hunt turkey or put a rifled choke in it use slugs and hunt deer or just go outside and pop off 10 rounds non stop just for the fun using light loads and a coffe can as a target, first time my Father looked at that weapon he refused to even consdider the idea of it being a hunting weapon because it has too many "tactical" addons" however to me, the most important thing to a weapon initially is how it feels when you hold it, and yes its a given you will get what you pay for so accuracy is implied when your holding a $1300 weapon ..which don't get me wrong you can get a 180 dollar shotgun @ wally world and find a right shell to choke match and have a good setup, but getting off my rant, and back to your question i gues i'm answering with a question whats important comfort wise to you, does it have to be a pump, what barrel length do you like, do you want it camo painted or standard black, and with hunting deer with slugs do you intend to use a scope? I apollogize if it seeems like alot that i'm throwing out but here's my point, the SBE, M1series and Nova are the only shotguns that have slug barrels made for them, and if i'm thinking correct there are 3 different barrels avail a 22' 24' and 26" *please note if anyone knows otherwise please post i'm just going from what i've been told many months ago* the reason why i asked if you was going to use a scope is becuase there are quiet a few of the versions listed above that come pre tapped for scope bases/mounts and some others like my Practical that have a rail already mounted on it at a proper level so that i could mount a scope or optic and still use the sights, the other thing about the slugs is have you considered the mercury recoil reducer? if your going to use those thumping 3.5" slugs its going to add some punch on the other end of the gun no matter how good the quality altho i'll admit that Benelli is the best shotgun system i've ever seen to deal with fealt recoil, they really have done tons for the shooter to be more comfortable, and i guess lastly have you considered a standard stock or a "vertial positve control grip" or as we normal people say pistol grip stock ..the debate rages between old fashioned hunters and the others that use them saying either there worth there weight in gold in the field or there not worth what there made of to have. sorry to be so long, but when you said the words hunting deer i just sprung, i've been a deer hunter litterally all my life and while i don't bring a trophy in every year its not becuse i don't have the chance and generally only time i kill one is when A. its a confirmed kill shot and B. i know there is help and assistance in working up the meet for storage to eat through out the next year. sorry to be so long but hope i could offer a few idea's for you once you can answer a bunch of the questions i put up there i'll be more than happy to pop back with a few reccomendations Wulf Lupinus Nobilitas ________ Honda SH125

nice description there M1014 considering you just named off about half the options on my Practical soundsl like you like to mix and match alot I love interchangeable systems oh M1 check with your local laws when you add the +2 extension and plugs for hunting or comp shooting *and in some cases regular range shooting* to see what the allow, i've actually been to a few places that wouldn't allow over 5 and thats counting the 1 in the chamber any ways good luck and enjoy Wulf Lupinus Nobilitas ________ ZN1300A

if yours is detachable i would imagne that you could take it to a steel working shop or a mechanic's shop and get them to custom make you one, onlything would be important is the inner and outer diameter and the threading on the top and how the lower is done be it threading or what not just an idea Wulf Lupinus Nobilitas ________ KTM 300EXC

oh bless you bless you bless you the manual i got with my M1 Practical was the generic M1 manual in 3 different languages it didn't even mention my guns name in it once i don't think *then again i read it rather hastely* very nice find thank you again once again Wulf Lupinus Nobilitas ________ YSR80

have you tried his 2 piece tube in your gun? i know its very dependant on the gun but some come with a fixed 5 and others come at 4shells then you can cap that *which is even with the pump on semi or pump or you can put an extension on it 1 2 3 4 what ever you want, ..IMHO i'd try it and see how you liked his on yours as far as the difference in metal to alloy i really don't think its going to add up to that much weight but i can't swear to either of them being one or the other Wulf Lupinus Nobilitas ________ vapir no2 vaporizer