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Duke, According to the Benelli USA FAQ you can using Cylinder choke. http://www.benelliusa.com/customer-service/index.tpl Regards threeshot

Drundel, Not sound negative or anything, I am curious why you prefer the grease versus a good gun oil on the slide rails? What advantage have you experienced with the grease over the gun oil? I am guessing from your posts that you hunt in the cold. Does the grease thicken-up less than FP-10 (I think you use FP-10, or maybe it's Miltec-1 oil) during your cold hunts? Regards threeshot

quantum, On my SBEII, I remove the trigger assembly and use M-Pro7 on a cleaning patch. I clean all the parts I can see and access without disassembly of the trigger unit. Use a dry cleaning patch to wipe it dry. Then I put oil, FP-10, on a cleaning patch and give a layer of oil to all the parts I can see and access. Regards threeshot

cdogg44, I know what you mean about the recoil difference between the 3” and 3.5” shells. A friend and I was at the indoor range three months ago and when he shot my SBEII in both 3” and 3.5” shells; he had the same opinion that I had. There is not much difference in the recoil between the 3” and 3.5” shells. To me, I can tell a slight difference. I love shooting the 2.75” shells with the ComforTech stock. Nice and soft. Especially after those Magnum Turkey loads. Were you at an indoor range or outside? If outside, was it cold? Did you field strip the SBEII per the manual and using a cleaner like M-Pro7, clean the barrel, receiver, the disassembled bolt assembly (including the parts) and the trigger assembly (do not disassemble the trigger assembly per the manual for cleaning)? What kind of lubricant are you using on the gun? Did you lubricate all the metal parts with the oil? Put a couple of drops on each slide rail just before reassembly. Regarding the loading of shells. No, you should not have to force them into the magazine. If you are, something is very wrong. Stop at this point and determine the problem. The problem I had loading shells into the magazine on my SBEII was due to the bolt was not “slammed” shut. In other words, when the bolt is locked to the back of the receiver (breech open), release the bolt using the button on the right-hand side of the gun and let the bolt slam shut. When I did that, I was able to load shells into the magazine easily and the shell carrier moved out of the way. After thoroughly cleaning and oiling the gun, if you are still having the problem with loading shells after letting the bolt slam shut, I would contact Benelli USA to request assistance or repair. Regards threeshot

cdogg44, Sorry, I read your post backwards. I thought you were trying to disassemble the gun. My procedures for assembly of the forearm and barrel are: 1) Slip the forearm onto the magazine tube without the barrel. 2) Using your left hand on the forearm and your right hand on the barrel, lift the forearm until it encounters strong resistence on the magazine tube. 3) With your right hand, place the barrel onto the top of the forearm and slide your right hand down to push the bottom of the forearm onto the back of the barrel. Being careful not to let the lower end of the barrel hit the receiver. 3) Now slide both forearm and attached barrel into the receiver per the manual's instructions. benddg, My gun is the black synthetic SBEII and the forearm is just a little too small to get over the end of the magazine tube. Benelli may have a reason for making this a little tight. I am not sure of the reason since it the forearm on the magazine tube and not the barrel that is the issue. Regards threeshot

cdogg44, I experience the same issue on my SBEII. To prevent scratching the gun and/or barrel, I perform the following steps: 1) Unscrew the Rod Retaining Cap (with swivel). 2) Put your left hand on the forearm and right hand on above the forearm holding the barrel. 3) Carefully lift the forearm and barrel together until you hit the point of strong resistance. 4) At this point, with your right hand on the barrel, lift the barrel off of the forearm being careful not to let the lower end of the barrel hit the receiver. 5) At this point you have removed the barrel from the forearm. Now you can lift the forearm off the magazine tube using a short twisting motion. By twisting I mean you are rotating the forearm back-and-forth as you lift straight up. This will get easier over time but the forearm will not just slide off. My SBEII still requires the above procedures if I want to avoid unnecessary scratches. I would be interested in what Benelli Customer Service suggests to you. Feel free to post their suggestions back on the forums. Regards threeshot

cdogg44, My SBE II came with: * 1 Plastic Breakdown Case * 5 Cryo Choke Choke Tubes * 4 Choke Tube Plastic Holders * 1 Choke Wrench * 1 Drop Change Kit (Drop & Cast Adjustment) * 1 50ml Benelli Gun Oil * 1 Use/Maintenace Manual * 1 Spare Parts List Manual * 1 Warranty Registration Card Make sure that all five choke tubes are different. Full----------------- - 1 Notch or * on the side. Improved Modified - 2 Notches or ** on the side. Modified----------- - 3 Notches or *** on the side. Improved Cylinder - 4 Notches or **** on the side. Cylinder----------- - 5 Notches or ***** on the side. Check that your choke wrench will fit all the chokes. If not, you can try other choke tube wrenches or contact Benelli and they will send you a different type of choke tube wrench. I like to breakdown the gun, clean it and re-oil the gun. I like to remove the heavy oil/grease that is on the gun from the manufacture to protect it from rust during shipping and storage at the gun dealer's store. I broke-in my SBEII with 100 rounds of the Winchester Supreme High Velocity Turkey Loads. I shot 50 rounds of the 3" (Max Dr. Eq. 2 oz.) and 50 rounds of 3.5" (Max Dr. Eq. 2 1/4 oz.) rounds. This will take the stiffness out of the recoil spring. Of course, my shoulder could only take 40 rounds during a shooting session. So I shot 20 rounds each of the 3" and 3.5" shells. Check if the gel pad seems too easy to remove. If the trigger safety is too stiff, you can contact Benelli to have the trigger safety spring replaced. Benelli will have you send the trigger assembly to them to replace the trigger safety spring. Regards threeshot

Good idea fezman. Oyster, Use the google link below to see what gun training courses are available in your area. http://www.google.com/search?q=gun+%2Btraining+%2Bcalifornia+%2Bsan&hl=en&lr= Regards threeshot [ 11-03-2004, 02:56 AM: Message edited by: threeshot ]

Oyster, You can download the Nova manual at the Benelli Italy website using the link below. http://www.benelli.it/ServizioClienti/UsoManut/Body.asp?Lan=EN Also, you may wish to check with the previous owner/gunshop about the manual. Regards threeshot

You did better than I could with my SBEII. I could only shoot 40 shells of the Winchester Supreme Double X Magnum Turkey Loads. If I remember correctly, my shoulder started hurting at 20 shells of the Winchester Supreme Double X Magnum Turkey Loads. Those last rounds out of the 40 shots were just pure determination. Out in the desert being able to shot your own targets (watermelons, etc). Boy you did have fun. I was limited to the indoor range and paper targets. Now I am shooting sporting clays using Dove/Quail loads. Boy is that fun! Glad you are enjoying your M1. Regards threeshot

Andy, What type of ammo were you shooting? Were you clay/sheet/sporting shooting? Regards threeshot

Hello RG, You will be safe using a lot of cleaners on the chrome-lined barrels. Unless a cleaner specifically states not to be used on chrome, you will be able to use the cleaner on the chrome barrel. By the way, I use M-Pro 7 on my chrome-lined barrel with no problems. You are bound to get a lot of opinions on which cleaner to use on your gun. The reason I went with M-Pro 7 are: *) Does a great job of removing lead, carbon, copper (rifle) fowling. *) Safe on polymer or synthetic parts. *) Does not smell so you can use it in the house to clean your guns. Regards threeshot

pud, You say your gun gets heavy use over the last three years or so. You have thoroughly clean the trigger assembly (all the parts you can see without disassembly of the parts that make-up the trigger assembly), the bolt assembly and the recoil tube? If so, I am guessing the problem may be the extractor is worn and/or the extractor spring (not the inertia or recoil springs) is weak. Sorry, I have not attempted to remove the extractor spring and do not know the proper tools and method to remove. Regards threeshot

Andy, The consensus for the SBEII owners is to break-in their shotguns using the heaviest loads during the first 100 rounds. Since your M1 can shoot 3" shells, you can use Winchester Supreme High Velocity Turkey Loads at Max Dr. Eq. 1 3/4 oz. (That is Maximum amount of powder and 1 3/4 oz of shot/lead/load.) In case you are wondering, according to Benelli's Troubleshoot website, your 12ga M1 lightest load recommended to shoot is 2 3/4 Dr. of powder and 1oz load. Hope this helps you. Regards threeshot

Ops. I should have pointed you to the M1 Schematics at Brownells. Super 90 M1 Field Super 90 M1 Military & Police Which SBEII did you get (Camo, Matte Black, Wood) and barrel length?

I understand your concern regarding disassembly of the bolt assembly. I just followed the manual regarding the field stripping and cleaning. The bolt assembly is easy to strip, clean and oil the components per the manual. Give it a try and if you have questions, post here and many folks will help you. If you are missing your manual, you can download Benelli Italy Site with Manuals . Regards threeshot

Sorry, I do not know how to test the extractor spring. Given that you are having problems with shot shells you had on hand that worked last year, I am trying to guess what could have caused the problem. The best guess I have to offer is the extractor spring and/or extractor is worn. When you cleaned the gun, did you clean and reoil the recoil spring and tube? Regards threeshot

Do you think the problem might be the extractor spring has weaken? Part # 34 at Brownells SBE Schematic .

Part # 55 at Brownells website. Regards threeshot

From the thread SBEII , it seems Benelli Customer Service is advising people to remove the Gel pad and clean all contact surfaces with rubbing alcohol. Then reassemble using a light silicone adhesive. Regards threeshot

Here is a link on the Benelli Itay website for downloading some of the manuals. http://www.benelli.it/ServizioClienti/UsoManut/Body.asp?Lan=EN Regards threeshot

I would think if you can get the Gel Pad back onto the stock without any kind of lubricant, this would help prevent the Gel Pad from coming off in the field. Why did Benelli say to use a silicon lubricant? Let us know if the procedures Benelli gave you resolve the problem. Regards threeshot [ 10-18-2004, 09:23 AM: Message edited by: threeshot ]

You may want to completely disassemble the gun including removing the trigger assembly. Clean all visible parts and lightly oil the trigger assembly. I am wondering if the shell carrier is not coming-up properly. Regards threeshot

Jubal, You do not need the Benelli Cleaning Kit, which is just a two-piece cleaning rod, bore mop, bore brushes and oil. Just use good quality oil. The following posting may help you. http://www.benelliusa.com/forums/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/874.html#000001 Regards threeshot

If you read the Benelli USA accessories website, you do not see them advertising the recoil reducer for SBEII or M2. So does the recoil reducer for SBE/M1 (not SBEII or M2) fit the SBEII and M2? Regards threeshot